ron2
Posted : 6/17/2008 6:45:35 PM
While I wish our troops were home and I will state, once again, that a war on terror should be special forces war (a sniper in a SEAL or AFSOC team), someone pointed out at work that oil might be a lot more expensive if left to the likes of Hussein. Remember Kuwait, when he set oil wells on fire. We are not directly benefiting in the oil market from the Iraq War. So, the notion that we are doing this for oil is fiat. At one time, the best intelligence showed that Iraq had WMD's that were likely to be used against us and people from both political parties, including a current presidential candidate agreed on that. Hussein was a despot, a Hitler in the desert and everyone agreed on that. The UN failed to do anything about his massacre of the Kurds and wanted to merely slap his hand for the invasion of Kuwait, an independent sovereign nation with their own seat in the UN. I've had heard from a few soldiers over there that they would rather fight the terrorists over there than to have it happen here. And, considering we took away Iraq's leader, it seems reponsible that we should help them set up their own government and police force. Right now, they have nothing but what we provide. If we left tomorrow, it would fall back into the hands of a despot as bad or worse than Hussein. It just happened to be Bush who drew the short straw. I giggle when I hear of conspiracy theories that we allowed this to happen so that we could take over Iraq and get ahold of the oil. All this from the same president who some think can barely tie his shoes? Well, which is it? Blithering idiot or evil genius? Or just a guy with a tough job, kickin' butt, Texas style?
You know what ended WWII? One weapon, used twice. We didn't negotiate, we didn't care what Japan's feelings were. Truman spoke Hirohito before Hiroshima. He told him that we have a weapon the likes of which the world has not seen that can wipe a city off of the Earth. Hirohito called what he thought was a bluff, not realizing that Truman doesn't bluff. Bam! Hiroshima. Then he went to Hirohito again, and Hirohito said no. Bam! Nagasaki. Truman wen to him again and said, listen. We have enough of these atomic bombs to keep bombing until there are no more of your people on this Earth. Finally, a surrender. And we helped Japan rebuild. Harley Davidson moved a factory over there, the japanese copied and then built their own motorcycles (sadly enough) with better performance and cheaper cost than the americans. Anyway, one vein, we have to be as stern as Truman. No, we don't have to use nukes. But the terrorists have to realize that we won't rest until they do.
To that end, how do you find terrorists? Well, you find people who's behavior and actions fit a certain profile. And then you question them. That's the fair way. Mine is much quicker but prone to error. Find the terrorist, shoot him. So, Bush's way is more laid back than mine. Hence, Guantanamo Bay. And I don't mind if the detainees are allowed to question their detainment. That's fine. Let them realize that they are safer at the Bay than they are at large. At large, they have the Mossberg ATR100 model .308 to worry about. Or they can sit there with clothes on their back and meals on their table at my expense and answer the questions ask. If they so much desire to die for their cause, who am I to stop them. So, on the one hand, let them go and a 1,000 yard guy will take care of it, or, continue that avenue of intelligence gathering. But yes, I prefer charges out in the open to be answered and dealt with.
So, does anyone know what it takes to wind up at the detainment center? I imagine it's a bit more complex and damning than just gathering the ingredients for baba genoush.
Chukran, ha bibi.