Republican/Conservative Corner

I notriously have met zero "wealthy" democrats

the kennedy family comes to mind as being the most famous wealthy democrats. arent they from massachusetts?

i think almost any of the dems serving in washington probably fall into the wealthy category.

oprah winfrey (arguably one of the wealthiest women in the world) supports obama ... so i assume she is a dem.

i think it could be better said that republicans dont feel guilty about their wealth, but democrats do. 

jjsmom06

Your views do make since and I fully understand when you say you are fiscally conservative and not morally so... and I actually appreciate you saying that because I have been scratching my head about you thinking to myself “she is absolutely NOT a conservative in all areas”…lol

lol yes i can be quite confusing! it's the "youngin'" in me, haha. But yes now it all probably makes more sense...

I do agree we need a 3 party system! :o) Because there will always be extremists but there are now grey areas too that should be accounting for instead of forcing us to "pick" which dark side to be on, haha

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Its a pure fact that if you make a good living you're probably a Republican and if you are in the middle class you are probably a Democrat.

  That is possibly the most ignorant gross generalization I've ever read.

cyclefiend2000

i think it could be better said that republicans dont feel guilty about their wealth, but democrats do. 

THERE WE GO... that is a better way of saying it :o) Thank you (like I said I'm always open to new views) being young I like to voice myself a lot then learn new ways

Myra

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Its a pure fact that if you make a good living you're probably a Republican and if you are in the middle class you are probably a Democrat.

  That is possibly the most ignorant gross generalization I've ever read.

Which you are probably right. Just as it is equally ignorant to say "The Rich get Richer! Tax Cuts are wrong!"

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being young I like to voice myself a lot then

constructive advice, if I may as a person who was your age not so very long ago....sometimes it is better to not talk a lot and simply ask questions, and then listen for a bit....you still learn...and IMO you learn more.

rwbeagles

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being young I like to voice myself a lot then

 

constructive advice, if I may as a person who was your age not so very long ago....sometimes it is better to not talk a lot and simply ask questions, and then listen for a bit....you still learn...and IMO you learn more.

lol very true... but I can't assume every issue I personally think of will be talked about. I kind of like putting myself out there with certain things and hearing what other people say constructively back. I am learning how to "just listen" about certain issues that's for sure. :o)

There's always got to be that one big mouth in the crowd... (aka me) haha I just like learn/hearing different views since the people that surround me all share the same view? For instance when I brought up the fact (god forbid) my friends & family talk about "isn't it weird how we have a woman and black man running for president" all of a sudden me, my friends, and family are "rascist" for thinking this way. lol we're not racist its just a new concept and we were all brought up very old fashion conservative so we're all brain washed! haha. I liked hearing the MATURE responses about the issues like "yeah it is new and different but we have to keep in mind not to judge based on sex & race". Not the "ugh omg how could you feel like that! ugh!" lol well millions of people do! I was just STATING...

When I talk hopefully people will learn something about me. I type, but I type with an open mind. I'm 21 years old I am no0o0o expert haha. I love when other members of the forum talk about their beliefs and points, it makes me go hmmm good advice...

I wasn't going to say anything but I couldn't take it anymore. *content removed, personally directed* .  Just because you're not rich does NOT mean you are lazy.  Just because you need government assistance does not mean you're stupid and lazy.  Yes, it's true people take advantage of the system.  I agree that the welfare system needs serious reforms.  I think the thing you don't see is that by helping the lowest members of society, it benefits society as a whole (that means ALL of us).  If it means you have to put off getting your iphone for a month to help feed a hungry child, I don't see the problem.   MOST people that slave away their wholes lives don't become rich.

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I notriously have met zero "wealthy" democrats...

I'm not sure what "notriously" means, but how about Oprah Winfrey? John Kerry? Warren Buffett?

swamper

I wasn't going to say anything but I couldn't take it anymore. *content removed, personally directed* .  Just because you're not rich does NOT mean you are lazy.  Just because you need government assistance does not mean you're stupid and lazy.  Yes, it's true people take advantage of the system.  I agree that the welfare system needs serious reforms.  I think the thing you don't see is that by helping the lowest members of society, it benefits society as a whole (that means ALL of us).  If it means you have to put off getting your iphone for a month to help feed a hungry child, I don't see the problem.   MOST people that slave away their wholes lives don't become rich.

I am glad you are sharing your opinion with us. It looks like that subject "hits home" so you must know from personal experience (hopefully you were not offended by me throwing back ideas/conversation, nothing is meant to harm anyones feelings)

" Republicans dont feel guilty about their wealth, but democrats do. " I agree with this statement a lot which makes your opinion very "Democratic" lets just say.

If I ever end up being "wealthy" or "rich" (because who knows!) I will of course still donate money (I do now even though I'm broke) and help out where I see fit. But I deff won't sit there thinking about the "poor" and feeling like I should be giving them my money. If I do end up wealthy I worked extremely hard to become wealthy and it's not my problem that other people didn't (that way of thinking is very Republican). And it's not that I'm heartless or any of these things but the fact is rich or poor no one has it "easy" with the government.

I have been told about your view many many times but no one has ever given me proof as to why " I think the thing you don't see is that by helping the lowest members of society, it benefits society as a whole (that means ALL of us). " that works??? Where does it show that if I help out the woman who refuses to work her whole life and gets "knocked up" deserves my money? That person should have tried harder (in my opinion). I don't "feel bad" for those types of people.

Many do "slave away" I feel like I "slave away" at times; trust me my WHOLE life wasn't piece of cake. My whole entire family wasn't that rich either, so I do know many directly that struggle to survive and never become rich.

I feel like the statement "putting off to get your iphone to feed a hungry child" well first off I don't think I'll ever get an iPhone but... what I will ask is... Why do I have to feed that hungry child? Why is that child hungry?! Where are the parents?!

So if I decided to have a baby right now (which would be absured!) and my child starts to go hungry I should just expect the world to feel bad for me??? I think we need to give people more credit and say, look it survival is common sense, don't have a kid if you can't feed it.

But once again these are all "typically" more REPUBLICAN views which is why this thread is called the REPUBLICAN corner... hopefully you were not too offended personally by some of the stuff posted? that is not my intentions... just chit-chatting about life and beliefs; learning new things.

If you have things to share about HOW helping out the lower class benefits us I actually would be really interested to see it! Like I said I like learning new things since the people that surround me all share the SAME views... so its nice to hear differently once in awhile. :o)

the kennedy family comes to mind as being the most famous wealthy democrats. arent they from massachusetts?

i think almost any of the dems serving in washington probably fall into the wealthy category.

oprah winfrey (arguably one of the wealthiest women in the world) supports obama ... so i assume she is a dem.

i think it could be better said that republicans dont feel guilty about their wealth, but democrats do. 

cakana

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I notriously have met zero "wealthy" democrats...

I'm not sure what "notriously" means, but how about Oprah Winfrey? John Kerry? Warren Buffett?

haha yep I have been proven wrong! But I'm glad... because now I know a better way of looking at it. :o)

The people around me personally just all seem to be either very wealthy and Republican or very middle class Democratic (very extremes, very black and white) so I'm glad I have people like you to show me otherwise! It's always good to get other opinions

rwbeagles

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being young I like to voice myself a lot then

 

constructive advice, if I may as a person who was your age not so very long ago....sometimes it is better to not talk a lot and simply ask questions, and then listen for a bit....you still learn...and IMO you learn more.

Excellent advice Gina and it holds true for all of us. I was raised in a Republican home and registered Republican as soon as I turned 18. I really didn't bother to learn about the Democratic party or their views. Then my bosses were offered the jobs of Secretary for Education and Undersecretary for Education under our Democratic Gov. (Davis). They asked me to come with them and of course I said "yes!" Because it was a Gov's appointee position, I was afraid they'd deny me, but they didn't. I spent the next several years completely surrounded by Democrats and it opened my eyes to what real people (sans negative media hype) believed in. I think anyone, but especially a young person, owes it to themself to learn all there is about each party and every candidate. I can't see any other way to make an educated, informed decision.

cakana

I think anyone, but especially a young person, owes it to themself to learn all there is about each party and every candidate. I can't see any other way to make an educated, informed decision.

Very good advice also... problem is I need to find democratic friends... My BF's parents are Democratic & my Mother's side of the family is Democratic but everything they say makes me want to throw up... I don't agree with their specific views (because their views are very ignorant of the Republican party) so therefore I need to find EDUCATED ALL AROUND Democrats to sit and listen too.

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If I ever end up being "wealthy" or "rich" (because who knows!) I will of course still donate money (I do now even though I'm broke) and help out where I see fit. But I deff won't sit there thinking about the "poor" and feeling like I should be giving them my money. If I do end up wealthy I worked extremely hard to become wealthy and it's not my problem that other people didn't (that way of thinking is very Republican).

Instead of just thinking about/planning for what you will do when you become "wealthy" or "rich", it might be a good exercise to think about what would happen if you become poor.  It happens to the best of people, even those who have good jobs in good fields and family money to fall back on.  A poor job choice, a bad investment or two, a health crisis, a natural disaster, a severe downturn in the economy, a spouse who mismanages family finances (or runs off with 'em), etc., etc.  Many people become poor because several of those things happen to them at once.  I feel particularly sorry for people who lose their jobs through no fault of their own at the same time they're suffering a health crisis (that's also no fault of their own).  Don't delude yourself into thinking it can never happen to you.

Hopefully, if it ever does happen to you (or me), someone will be thinking about the "poor" and feeling like they should help you (or me).  Instead of thinking "it's not my problem".

I find it's usually thought-provoking to put yourself in someone else's place . . .