is it alright to be scared

    • Gold Top Dog
    It isn't uncommon for a bitch to take a break inbetween pups, but straining to produce a pup is different then taking a break.
     
    Our last Am Staff litter in 2000 was a free whelp litter, after 3 pups momma was attempting to produce but nothing was coming, on her last attempt she pushed, I went inside and helped the little man out. He was my Sonny, born purple and Bill resesitated him, unknowing to me as I knew there were still pups left and she was not able to birth the rest, we left him with the pup expecting him to be buried while we were getting a shot of Oxy or preparing for a c-section for the rest(2 pups)..the final two were born and we returned home to see Bill with Sonny in his shirt to keep him warm until we returned...heater up to 80!!!
     
     It's never easy and you have to be prepared for the worst is my motto
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    Absolutely agreed, Jaime.  And we all know that perhaps bringing Sonny back wasn't in his best interest bless his heart.  You know, looking back on Mr. Ears, he wasn't plump at birth either, and we had concerns about both he and Theo, the two co-runts.  And Mr. Ears wasn't healthy, even tho he fooled everyone, including the vet until the nite he died.

    Actually, with Little Momma while I was talking to the vet, she stood up and plopped the next pup out.  Oppps!  Never mind!  See ya when it's over!!
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    This is why I've never gotten into breeding. It takes a lot of hard work and dedication. I am friends with quite a few responsible breeders of various breeds and one thing I made a point to do was keep my mouth shut and keep my ears open. I'm glad I did because I have learned a lot and I know if there ever becomes a time where I'm feeling rather masochistic and get into breeding,  I know that I can count on quite a few people who would be kind enough to help me through it because Bostons almost always need a c-section and mortality can be high. It can be very expensive to breed Bostons because c-sections aren't cheap, and the price can skyrocket if you need an emergency c-section in the middle of the night, and most Boston breeders I know practically give up a few weeks of their life just to make sure things are ok in the first week or so after the pups are born. Not only that, I'd probably have to buy a bigger  bed because it's hard enough sharing my bed with all my dogs I have now and I'm sure the dam would want to keep her litter in bed with the rest of us. [:D]
     
    On a side note for all those who are lurking and thinking of getting a puppy. If you are looking to buy a puppy, the best places to start are at a [linkhttp://www.infodog.com]dog show[/link] where you can speak with fanciers of the breed. You can also contact the [linkhttp://www.akc.org]AKC[/link], [linkhttp://www.ukcdogs.com/index.html]UKC[/link],  [linkhttp://www.ckc.ca/en/]CanadianKC[/link] for links to breed clubs where you can find out more information and get breeder referrals. Please keep in mind that not all breeders are responsible and are breeding for the health and preservation of the breeds. Some are out there to make a quick buck or are breeding for all the wrong reasons such as wanting a cute litter of puppies, thinking that Fifi must have one litter, thinking Fido would make such a great stud dog or wanting the children to witness the "miracle of life". I have written about how to find a puppy and you can check that out [linkhttp://www.sekcszoo.com/Puppy.html]here[/link]. If you find a breeder be sure to ask a lot of questions and don't be afraid to ask for proof. A good breeder will have no problem answering questions and showing you proof. The reason I say this is because a lot of breeders can come off as knowledgeable to those who don't have a clue. A pretty website can hide a horrid puppymill. Some puppymills/BYB's have been known to steal pics of show dogs to claim those are the parents of their puppies. Some think that a basic vet check equals health testing and it doesn't. So basically don't let your heart override your brain. All puppies are cute but the reality is this is an animal that can live 10+ years and you want to try to find one that's as healthy and tempermentally sound as possible.
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    just woundering are some of these postes shot at me
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    Bravo, Meilani!!

    You know, I honestly thought I'd be somewhat less crazed fostering than breeding my OWN dogs.  Nope.  A life is still a life and someone had entrusted those little lives to ME and there flat out was no way I was gonna let those babies, or their momma, down.

    Puppyluver, I can't speak for others, but I don't think any of these posts are directed at you.  You've made your decision for better or worse.  But there are a lot of lurkers who might see this thread and LEARN from those of us who know better.  You yourself thought that a backyard breeder was a GOOD thing a few weeks ago.
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    The OP asked should you be afraid or worried based on the information you provided, you were given information.  When you ask a question you immediately imply you are looking for information.  I would assume what you might have been looking for was validation or reassurance.  Experienced dog folk will answer your questions.  You just need to understand, if you ask for advice you are going to get it.  What you do with it is your choice.  Letting your emotions rule can be costly in any number of ways.
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    Excellent site Meilani!  I just sent it on to my friends who are looking to buy a pomeranian.  The pet store in the mall... (we were in the mall for lunch so he went to play with some of the doggies... promised me he won't buy from there!) was charging $1700!  He asked where they get the dogs and they responded "from private breeders with over 30 yrs. experience).
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    Personally I would have run from this breeder screaming. Heck, for $150 I could adopt a dog from the shelter who was improperly bred and cared for and will have health problems in the future. Sad but true.
     
    Just because they call themselves a breeder and may have done it a time or two doesn't make them good at it or experts.
     
    Perfect example of breeder's stupidity. I have become friendly with the people who work at the pet store I frequent. Most of them have pitties. One of the women who works there has to put her dog down today because of breeder stupidity and their readiness to choose money over a dog's health.
     
    Her dog has had issues with aggression and they have been working with a behaviorist, but the 3rd strike came recently when her dog tried to bite a girl, but thankfully only caught the little girls coat. Parents and neighbors reported the incident. So, today a beautiful pittie who just turned 2 has to be put down.
     
     What does this have to do with breeding?? The woman who bought the dog didn't her research very well before paying $650 for the dog, she trusted that the breeder was responsible and had taken all appropriate steps to ensure she was getting a sound, healthy dog. She recently did some further checking into her dog's bloodlines and contacted some people who also purchased dogs from this breeder. He has been inbreeding his dogs because he felt he has a good 'fighting' line. (NO, this is not what she got the dog for, she had no idea).
     
    Today, my tears and prayers are with those puppies, and they are also with that beautiful girl who has to be put down for something that is not her fault, but the fault of a stupid, greedy breeder.
     
    Run free sweetie. [sm=angel.gif]
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    Glenda,
     Your right, DH shouldn't have tried to save Sonny but as we both know, we will try our hardest to help these babies and he did just that. Sonny had a good life with me despite what his conditions were and I know in my heart had anyone else owned him his life would have been much shorter, which is why, as his breeder I kept him and NOT the best puppy in that litter. I could have sold him and it would have been someone elses headache, but I know when I lay my head down at night it is I who has to answer to the big man upstairs.
     He accomplished alot in his life time and was always loved...just as I know your pups as well as your fosters are.
     
    Breeders are a dime a dozen...those worth their weight in gold will sacrifice their own time and life to make it better for what they produce. I have met a few of these people in my time, sad to say I have met more BYB'rs as well...take the good and leave the bad to the side. Not everyone will agree with what everyone else does but putting those little lives first ranks high in my book
     
     
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    I think we all have stupid, greedy breeder stories.

    I also would run from this breeder. $150 isn't much, considering the problems that these puppies are likely to have. Getting one is likely to cost a LOT more than $150 with problems from poor breeding and poor nutrition early on.
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    Jaime, I wasn't being critical and I hope that you know that.  Your DH did nothing that you or I or my DH wouldn't have done...whatever it took to save a baby.

    Sonny had a wonderful life with you, because you are a responsible breeder and a loving human being.  You are concerned with FAR more than your bottom line profit margin.  It doesn't sound like the same can be said for this breeder.
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    ORIGINAL: puppyluver6711

    Some of you may know i am getting a boxer.they were born today thourgh  surgey  im not to sure what happend all i know is mommy's not doing good at all and the pups are  straving .do i have a right to be afraid  anyone ever had this happen?


    I must admit, your exact question "Do I have a right to be afraid?" has been answered many times over.  I'm sorry if you feel you or your breeder is being attacked,  but people have answered your question and sited exactly WHY they felt as they do.  Now, I'm assuming you feel better after talking (or receiving the email) from the breeder?  Is that the reason for the change in your tone?  Or is is possible that your fear was for the c-section and weak pups alone, and not the ethics of the breeder.  I'm sure you feel attacked with people questioning your decision, but with the best intentions they truly are trying to save you from a heartbreak later on. 

    With that said, you seem set on your pup, so I echo the others.  I hope it turns out to be a healthy happy puppy.
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    ORIGINAL: colliewog


    I must admit, your exact question "Do I have a right to be afraid?" has been answered many times over.  I'm sorry if you feel you or your breeder is being attacked,  but people have answered your question and sited exactly WHY they felt as they do.  Now, I'm assuming you feel better after talking (or receiving the email) from the breeder?  Is that the reason for the change in your tone?  Or is is possible that your fear was for the c-section and weak pups alone, and not the ethics of the breeder.  I'm sure you feel attacked with people questioning your decision, but with the best intentions they truly are trying to save you from a heartbreak later on. 

    With that said, you seem set on your pup, so I echo the others.  I hope it turns out to be a healthy happy puppy.

     
     
    yes i thought i was being attacked i am happy with the breeder and i think you will be happy to know that the pups are doing better
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    Thats good news Shaylan.  I hope they continue to improve.  Do you get first pick after the stud owner?

    Since Shaylan is determined not to run from this breeder, does anyone have any tips to help her at least pick the most healthy pup from this litter?
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    i get first pick  after the stud owner of brindle females and since almost the whole litter was brindle/female i have 5 to pick from  i have a while to  pick intell next week so we'll see and well for you guys ....bunches of puppy pictures