Maybe its time.....

Don't say that too loud..you'll have a pack of Pit Bulls at your door!!!
 
I still have a little left from Secret Santa in the Freezer and as soon as my guys hear tin foil they are all rushing to see if it's treat time!!

Wow, I totally missed the thread with the ageist remarks.  They sound pretty ridiculous to me.  But I think that whoever said them basically discredited anything else that they may have been trying to say. 
I agree with you Glenda, that it's a lot easier when someone is attacking you personally.  But I seem to always root for the underdog, and when I see someone else being treated unfairly it makes me very angry, and my sense of justice kicks in.  Doubly so when that person happens to be new to the forum and is obviously interested in learning more.
 
 
 

Hey, Glenda, I'm one of the youngest members that posts regularly, and I value your presence and input very, very much. I will miss you if you're not here, but I can always harass you and Jaime in email.... 

I missed the offending thread, too. Where is it?

I think Glenda and I are nearly the same age. In additon, I'm an Old Internet Fart.[]

who's Brenda?

I think *I'm* Brenda!!

 
I had to go back on that one. thought I missed somethin big. []
 
I personally, Love all you ol' farts. you know the most, and because I see you have been around here for decades, I know, you know what you are talking about.

Oh now, Angel, that wasn't EVEN funny!!  Am beginning to wonder if I'm EVER gonna be a grandma.......Oldest son is 28, his fiance just went through a cancer thing so maybe by the time I'm 60......youngest son, well, he's almost 27 and not even dating right now!
 
Jaime, my gosh!!  You must really horde those liver treats!  Poor babies!  One of Todd's favorite things to wrap in foil and toss on the grill is an ONION.....that might turn them off to foil!

Sorry Glenda, I was trying to find an ol' fart "Granny" type. That's all I could find. Just  friendly teasing. You know I love you.

Angel, not to worry.  If I hadn't known you were joking, I'd have slapped you silly.....[sm=proud.gif]

Unless someone says their age, I typically can't guess how old most posters are. Likewise, I'm pretty sure a lot of folks couldn't guess my age either unless they've read it in an older post. To blame someone's "old age" on some so-called inability to accept change is, to me, absurd. I'm young and stubborn, but I always try to listen to all sides of an argument. However, if my mind is made up or I don't like someone's suggestion, I robably won't give it a second thought. I'll just kindly brush it off and keep on keepin' on. Personally, I wouldn't know half of what I know if I hadn't listened to the experienced folks on this board, and Grey would probably still have nasty skin had I not tried Glenda's recipe and found other ways to change his diet. No one here knows or claims to know everything (although I'm sure that particular point is arguable to some), but experience counts for something.
 
As far as people getting bashed for what they feed...that's rather shameful. I'm not speaking to anyone in particular because I don't really frequent the nutrition threads, but in the past, I've seen numerous rude comments aimed at those who are trying to learn. This makes lurkers uncomfortable, and it forces others to never admit they, at some point, have fed something substandard. Everyone has made multiple mistakes, and there's no shame in making improvements. Didn't we recently have a thread about having a kinder nutrition section? And didn't a lot of us also fess up to the things we've fed in the past? I know I confessed. Brown and Grey ate *gasp* Pro Plan until Chicken Soup became regularly available here. I live in the land of Hee-Haw, and if you can't buy it at Walmart, Kroger, or the co-op, you can't get it. So until the co-op carried Chicken Soup regularly (before I had to beg to place and order, and many times the orders weren't place), I did the best I could supplementing their diets. Sure, buying online and shipping is an option, but it gets expensive FAST. I know that because I've done it before with dog and cat food, and I still do it with my guinea pigs because the only food carried in this small town is Hartz. So I order a 50 lb. bag of Oxbow, which comes out to $50-60. Regular price if purchased in a store is $25. Thankfully, I don't have to order frequently...maybe twice a year.
 
Anyway, my point is no matter what anyone else thinks or says, you have to do the best for your animals that's within your means. And if being realistic prompts some holier-than-thou person to tell me I'm a bad owner, then so be it. If I didn't care about animals, I wouldn't be here sharing my experiences and learning something new everday. And in the end, some rude person's opinion doesn't matter anyway. It doesn't affect my life, and it doesn't make me a horrible person because I can't magically make Innova pour out of my cereal boxes. What does matter is that we learn and we know what's best even if the best can't be achieved at the time.
 
Ahhh...I've waited two years to say that. LOL

I'm glad you brought it up. As a new member to this board I find the snotty comments and trash talking just terrible. I almost left the board as soon as I joined. What stopped me was the posts from folks (read: you 'old timers') that made sense, accepted that we are all trying our best to care for our four legged friends and that all you older guys will slap someone down when they need it.
 
Keep posting because I wouldn't have known about you or some of the others if you didn't reply regularly. How on earth would we newbies know who to turn to for advice if we didn't see sane and balanced posts???
 
As for the twits who have offended you and other folks (heck I even got chastized for what I feed and I was brand new) I say good ridance to bad garbage. Perhaps we should do like the military - red light, yellow light. By the way, how do you turn someone in to the moderator for being nasty?
 

p.s. notice how many of us who replied have only one star? You do make a difference. Thank You!

I am a firm in my belief that I think it comes easy to some to be so nasty because they never have to face one another, never have to look at someone's face who has just had their feelings hurt.
 
As my grandmother has always said " every dog has it's day ".        What does that mean? as if being a dog is bad?? LOL     Just an old saying I suppose, but the meaning is true.
 
We all learned this in kindergarden... keep your hands to yourself, use or inside voice and always treat others they way we want to be treated.
 
Pre-school for adults...... now there's a thought.[]
 
I value your opinion as do a lot of other people  and am so glad you are here.
 
oh oh oh something else my granmother always said, you always need to listen to someone else's advise, but you dont always have to milk a cow their way.
 
Now whew...... where did she get that one.......... LMAO
 
 
 

I have to agree with Laura - I think some people are trolls and some are just plain mean spirited and nothing is going to change that. It would be a shame to let people like that force others into taking a back seat/posting less often/not posting at all etc.  I think Jaime is doing a great job censuring the people that need censuring - no small task considering the size of the board.

I learned very quickly not to discuss nutrtion on this board when I first joined (I was feeding ProPlan at the time and over time moved up the food ladder).. after I had been here a while and silently made changes based on things I had read.. I finally put my foot in the water and started talking about it.
 
 I remember seeing different foods at the stores I shopped at and I'd come home and type that name in the search to see things said about it before I made choices or talked about it.
 
I have learned a lot on this forum and I know I'm a better mom to my fur babies because of it. I still have a lot to learn, but always willing to take in more info.
 
there have been some pretty nasty threads lately.. haven't seen the one this thread refers to, but I can just about imagine[&:]
 
I was raised to respect people no matter what. I think many people get a false sense on the internet of detachment because they are not face to face with people and don't have to face the hurt look on someone's face if they say something nasty, or they don't have to listen to someone verbally tell them what they think.
 
I go in a AOL chatroom occassionally and I am always disgusted by the mean hateful things people say to each other.. and then when the person who is the victim of the attack responds they are told to calm down, it's only the internet.. computer or not, people still have feelings and whether they are hidden behind a computer screen or not, they are very real.
 
There's a verse in the Bible that says to be careful how you treat other people because you never know when you are entertaining an angel (paraphrased). I think it's a good thought to keep in mind at all times!
 
Glenda, I love ya you old broad!!!

That attachment- LOL!  Where do you find these things?