Maybe its time.....

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    Maybe its time.....

    For all us older, uneducated, head stuck in the sand fools to take a break and let the younger, wiser folks answer the questions for a bit.
     
    We've clearly been told that being of a "certain" generation renders us unable/unwilling to change or to embrace new ideas.  Tell that to my 3.85 GPA that I earned at the age of 50.......
     
    But, I honestly wonder some days why I bother logging in.  I don't NEED to be called names, I don't NEED to see others being told that they don't love their dogs enough to try "better" foods, I don't NEED to see folks who are forced to feed something that they would rather not feed be belittled and made to feel like dog crap that needs to be scraped off the bottom of someones shoe......
     
    I'm a tough old broad with the hide of a rhino.  But, I am wounded by some of the nasty comments and it truely BOTHERS me to see others under attack in the name of someone elses "passion".  Rude is rude whether it's called rude or called passion.  One person on this board has said things too and about me that I wouldn't even dream of saying to my EX husband, who is truely the pond scum of the earth.  Yet to hurt another human being in that way is just not in my nature. And I'm a (b)itch!
     
    But perhaps the wisdom that us older folks have gained through experience and the school of hard knocks truely isn't wanted here.  After all, we're told we are stupid and resistant to change.  Something to ponder.....
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    No way, Glenda!  This board needs your input.  When good, kind and gentle people leave because of rude and nasty postings i-dog suffers.  Inappropriate posts should be brought to the attention of the moderators and delt with.  If you leave, the rude and nasty people win.  We can't let that happen!
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    I agree with you Glenda, I often wonder why I bother with this forum.  However, I do know that I've helped others maybe not in public but in PM's.  I also like to keep up with those that have helped me in the past too.  And, Willow IS a better dog and I'm a better owner for having posted here these past few years. 
     
    I think Jamie is totally on to the rudeness and I don't think it will go on for much longer.  It takes a bit for them to sink themselves but they do eventually. 
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    We do not need self righteous manipulative abusive attacks in here.  This is exactly what I was talking about when I very first posted in here, so I am with you 100% and then some.  I don't have your trips around the fire hydrant yet and I wish desperately I could contribute more on this site.  But there is one thing I do know: pasionate abuse is still abuse.  The very thing we need to stamp out in this world.  I do not know what happened or who posted what to cause you this but I can tell it hurt, and you're mad.  Now you know what that person has inside, and don't give 'em anymore of your energy or spirit.   Jules
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    Please understand that this isn't a "poor me pitty party" thread.  It has just come to a point in the past few days that someone is being extremely abrasive and doesn't seem to be being scolded, certainly not stopped.  And no, that person isn't attacking me, which is worse because I can take care of myself.
     
    I'm just wondering if us older folks have any value here......and judging from some of the recent posts, I'd have to say that the answer is no.
     
    I'm not leaving, not threatening to leave, but wondering if perhaps if us "old farts" weren't so available we'd be more appreciated.  And, I'm ALWAYS available via PM and will always answer email questions.
     
    I didn't start learning about nutrition until about 3 years ago, but it was HERE that I really got an education.  Just not from the folks who screamed and hollered at me and called me stupid or unloving or unfit to own a dog.  I'm just not sure that I care to continue putting soooo much effort into a forum where I'm so loudly and so rudely shouted down so ofen.  And where others are treated just as rudely.
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    Glenda, Lori, I do not agree that you should have to step back because some people are unwilling to take advice. I was one of those people and I thank you for setting me straight. We NEED all of the imput if we want to hear it or don't. Please do not step back.
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    I appreciate anyone's input as long as they are polite.  So far I have found that most people on here have been.  We all learn things everyday.  You are never to old to learn nor to young.  When you decide to stop learning thats when it goes downhill.  I think people should be polite and agree to disagree on certain topics.  I appreciate the input you have given me on different topics.  Thanks![:D]
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    ORIGINAL: glenmar

    I'm just wondering if us older folks have any value here


    Glenda, I'm not even sure its an old fart thing. [;)] I think that your knowlege and experience is valuable, and I appreciate it. I even appreciate your old fartness. It bothers me too to see other people lambasted and attacked, to the point that I avoid those threads. I'm not sure that you, and others with valuable knowlege and experience, stepping out is the answer to the overall question.

    I think there are people that are just mean-spirited, and I think there are people who come here that are trolls, plain and simple. I think there are some that lack self control and empathy for others, and then I think some people are good people that somehow manage to get themselves on vendettas. I think if we trust that Jaime will do what needs to be done, and if we do our best to not feed them (the trolls or the vendetta surfers) that we can go a long way towards cleaning up some of the animosity here.

    I would hate to see more respectful, kind, and knowlegeable people go. As they go, the balance swings towards the negative posters.
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    Well Glenda you Old Wise One... I certainly need your input on occassion so whom ever the poster is that cannot be of good nature and mind their P's and Q's needs to find another board to play in.
     
    You are a tough old broad and have a hide as thick as a rhino just as I do. Keep on truckin like a dozer not to let anyone step all over you. Should this poster continue to be rude or whatever, I would suggest to ignore them as I have a tendancy to do as an old timer as if they did not exsist period. I will NOT let someone ruine my out look and if they do have something valid to contribute to the conversation, so be it, I will take that into consideration, however, if it is pure dog poop and nothing more, speak to the hand and move on.
     
    We are a team here. We set the presidence and the attitude of this board.
     
    I also feel the new forum is partly responsible for the lack of "being personal" or drawing a closeness with eachother like it used to with the old format. So we don't know eachother as well as we used to and it causes conflict and makes it less personal. That is my view, what is yours?
     
    And Glenda, I still love you like a sister. Who cares what other's may think about you as they truely do NOT know the person you ARE to the rest of us.
     

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    A million ding-a-lings don't have a fraction of the knowledge that I need out of your head, Glenda! Sit/Stay! :))
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    Glenda,
     
    I just wanted to say that Cooper and I VALUE YOUR INPUT!!!!!!  You've got a lot of knowledge to share, and I'm glad I found the forum!
     
    Kelly
     
     
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    Well Glenda, I have 3 old dogs, and they didn't get there because of my "poor" care, but I know where you are coming from.  Things get said, but even if you try to ignore them, it still has been said and the feelings remain.  There have been a few posts that IMO should have been deleted before they became issues, but that is not possible all the time.  
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    Glenda - just my [sm=2cents.gif] ... you are more valuable to me than I can ever explain.  The knowledge that I gain from reading your answers, the wonderful homecooked recipe, down to helping me understand about raw bones for Riley ... is so invaluable.  Don't let anyone else make you feel less than what you are.  If they don't like what you have to say - that's their tough luck.  There are many more of us who look forward to hearing from you than there are who want to be abusive and fight all day long.  Don't go ... Riley won't be happy [:(]
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    Well Glenda, I have to agree with Riley's Mom on this one.  I really appreciate you and have since I first came to this forum those months ago.  There are so few people that you can count on to read and RESPOND to a question with good down to earth advice and you are one of them. 
    So I want to say thank you to you and all your friends out there who take the time to help.  I know Lucy and I both appreciate it.
    -Carla
     
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    Glenda you yourself said that everyone chooses to PM you with questions.  So you know that a lot of people here value your input greatly. 
     
    It would really be a shame if you would punnish everyone here and yourself for the actions of a few bad seeds.
     
    I hope you can find it in you to stick it out and ignore those people.[:)]