Rehoming....

Tamara - I have been at a wedding all weekend and just saw your posts.  I am so sorry that Cinnabun wasn't what you expected.  (And by the way, I still want to see pictures whether you re-home him or not![])
 
I think that if you truly feel that it is not a good match and you feel that Cinnabun would be better off in another home than do it.  I do however think that you should maybe consider giving him a few more days before making a decision. 
 
I know that this isn't easy on you, this is a huge and hard decision. 
 
I also just wanted to tell you about how I felt when we brought Daisy home. 
 
Duke was a really good puppy, he never destroyed anything and he was relatively calm.  I thought that was what puppies acted like.  When we got Daisy I realized that I was wrong, puppies are CRAZY!  I am still having a hard time adjusting to her.  She is overly dominant towards Duke, she destroys anything in her path, she barks and cries like crazy!  She is absolutely nuts.  I had a breakdown after the first couple of days with her.  I was so overwhelmed!  But I have become so attached to her and could never give up now (plus I am hoping that ONE day it will get a little easier with her).
 
Anyways, know that we are here for you no matter the decision.[]

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Tamara - I have been at a wedding all weekend and just saw your posts.  I am so sorry that Cinnabun wasn't what you expected.  (And by the way, I still want to see pictures whether you re-home him or not![])

I think that if you truly feel that it is not a good match and you feel that Cinnabun would be better off in another home than do it.  I do however think that you should maybe consider giving him a few more days before making a decision. 

I know that this isn't easy on you, this is a huge and hard decision. 

I also just wanted to tell you about how I felt when we brought Daisy home. 

Duke was a really good puppy, he never destroyed anything and he was relatively calm.  I thought that was what puppies acted like.  When we got Daisy I realized that I was wrong, puppies are CRAZY!  I am still having a hard time adjusting to her.  She is overly dominant towards Duke, she destroys anything in her path, she barks and cries like crazy!  She is absolutely nuts.  I had a breakdown after the first couple of days with her.  I was so overwhelmed!  But I have become so attached to her and could never give up now (plus I am hoping that ONE day it will get a little easier with her).

Anyways, know that we are here for you no matter the decision.[]

 
Thank you!! I'm just really torn between trying to "make" it work and letting him go to another family that he's naturally more compatible with. This is not an easy decision and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. []

I know where you're coming from. I had something like this happen to me with a 6 month old Borzoi. He was a show quality dog and he was to be my first show dog. I was really excited to get him and when I finally got him everything went wrong. I bought him home and the minute he saw the other dogs he freaked out. I never heard a dog scream until that day. He kept snapping at my dogs and I had to carry him in the house and put him in my room. I will never forget that day because my stomach literally dropped. I never felt that way in my life and I never want to again. After a few days, he seemed fine with Souffle but kept trying to attack Shiloh. I tried to keep them separated but my house wasn't big enough where I could avoid interaction. I also dogsit for a Samoyed and he'd go after her too. I would take him for walks and the sight of another dog would freak him out. And this was supposed to be a dog I was going to show. I had this horrible feeling and family and people at work noticed a change in my attitude. I thought I was going to have a nervous breakdown. I called the breeder and I was crying so hard that I could barely talk to her. I told her it may be best that she take him back. I kept him for a month and tried to work on his issues. Just when I thought he would be fine, he'd snap and go after 1 of the dogs. He just didn't seem to fit in my family and the breeder took him back. I am totally serious when I say that the day he went back, it felt like a huge weight was lifted off my chest. I know what's it's like when you get a new puppy and sometimes you think "What the hell did I get myself into?" but that wasn't the feeling I had with him. It was way worse. I never had that feeling with a dog prior to him nor did I have that feeling when I got Shelby.
 
Anyhoo, I will admit that I skimmed through all the posts but does the breeder have a take back clause in your contract(if you signed one). If so, the dog should go back to the breeder. I'm feeling rather funky right now but unless I misread, you've stated you have issues about her reselling the puppy. My question is why? If you've trusted her enough to buy the puppy, why would you mistrust her intentions of rehoming it? Would you get another puppy from her in the future? Maybe as a replacement for this one? Either way, I hope everything works out ok.

When I got Gracie, at 11 weeks, I was told she was the second-toughest puppy in the litter and that I was in for a handfull.  They did the same puppy temperament test, too... I watched the video of them performing it, and I read the results.  The only thing they were right about was that she would be best for a pet home and in obedience.  Today she is in NO way a "handful"... either the temp test was off, or the training was what made the difference.  Anyway, I share to say the TT doesn't mean a whole lot, and working with the puppy did.
Honestly, I have a cat that I took from my ex-bf's grandmother because she threatened to PTS for no reason.  I said I'd find him a home and never did.  Although he's mostly a good cat, he annoys the HECK out of me - and I often think I should re-home him, so I know how you feel at least a little bit.  Except I keep him out of guilt (ie, how could I hate a perfectly nice cat just because he meows incessantly and seems to be OCD sometimes?)
Good luck with your decision.  Sometimes puppy exhaustion makes our fuse short, too.

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Well, at least most of the time I no longer want to kill her, anyway.

*lol* Boy do I understand that!
 
 
My opinion would be to ask the breeder for a refund, if they are respectable, they will refund your money and ship the dog back to them. Sorry but it doesnt sound like they are. If they were they would call you up and ask you exactly what the dog is doing and give you tips on what to do about it. They would have urged you to give the dog a chance and would have tried to find a trainer in your area who you could work with. This sounds like a BYB to me.
 
To me this fellow sounds like he needs to learn who the alpha is.
 
You have only give him 2 days, that is no time at all. If he was doing the same thing at the breeder's perhaps she didnt try to correct it. A little leadership seems like all this boy needs.
 
If Cinnabun is THAT horrible, why do you expect someone else to take him? If he is that bad he wont "fit in" with any other family, they will just end up rehoming him like you did and it will go on and on.
 
I too think you have the strength and smarts to train this boy right. Why dont you just keep him the 2 weeks until the breeder can take him back (if they will offer you a refund) and see if he improves any. If not, you havent lost anything and the "breeder" can be more careful in placing Cinnabun.
 
I am not being harsh on you, I just wish you would give this fellow a chance, he could be the dog of your dreams if you just work with him & teach him you are the alpha. What is 2 weeks going to hurt?
 
That would give you plenty of time to find a RESPONSIBLE breeder.
 
 

I don't know what your original post said but here is what I am going thru in the last 4 weeks.
 
Our dog died July 11th and DH couldn't stand to see me crying and our other dog was greiving so bad, we drove 8 hours to NY to look at this pup.  The last one in the litter.  She was sweet and all, but I told my DH "no" but he talked me into it.  I cried on the ladys porch.  I felt SOOO sick all the way back home and already plotting to give her away.  I email the lady and told her how bad I was doing with this pup and she said give it some time.     Well,  we quickly learned how hard it is to have a pup and I made DH do the potty runs day and nite.  Our world was and is in unheaval for 4 weeks now.  She is a HELLIOUN, hell on 4 paws.  Biting our big dog and STUBBORN!.  I tell you the first couple days/weeks were AWFUL for me.  I told DH of my plan to rehome her and he was furious with me (OK - now marriage problems cause of this pup).  Fast forward 4 weeks, its getting better, the routine is set and now we are trying to teach her .  After I let go of the idea of getting another dog like Holly who died, I am accepting her for who she is,,,,not as pretty, not as obienent,,,but a dog who needs a mom and family and we are it.  I fully expect her to win my heart completely one day .
 
You may have buyers remorse.  I sure did.  But why don't give him a few more weeks?   Resuce Remedy for you is a good thing.  Every dog I've brought in has caused me to cry relentlessly 2 weeks or more.  Maybe its my hormones, but lets face it, it is very hard having a puppy.
 
Good news here is our puppy is sweet when she is laying still and I think she will turn into a nice dog.     

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I don't know what your original post said but here is what I am going thru in the last 4 weeks.

Our dog died July 11th and DH couldn't stand to see me crying and our other dog was greiving so bad, we drove 8 hours to NY to look at this pup.  The last one in the litter.  She was sweet and all, but I told my DH "no" but he talked me into it.  I cried on the ladys porch.  I felt SOOO sick all the way back home and already plotting to give her away.  I email the lady and told her how bad I was doing with this pup and she said give it some time.     Well,  we quickly learned how hard it is to have a pup and I made DH do the potty runs day and nite.  Our world was and is in unheaval for 4 weeks now.  She is a HELLIOUN, hell on 4 paws.  Biting our big dog and STUBBORN!.  I tell you the first couple days/weeks were AWFUL for me.  I told DH of my plan to rehome her and he was furious with me (OK - now marriage problems cause of this pup).  Fast forward 4 weeks, its getting better, the routine is set and now we are trying to teach her .  After I let go of the idea of getting another dog like Holly who died, I am accepting her for who she is,,,,not as pretty, not as obienent,,,but a dog who needs a mom and family and we are it.  I fully expect her to win my heart completely one day .

You may have buyers remorse.  I sure did.  But why don't give him a few more weeks?   Resuce Remedy for you is a good thing.  Every dog I've brought in has caused me to cry relentlessly 2 weeks or more.  Maybe its my hormones, but lets face it, it is very hard having a puppy.

Good news here is our puppy is sweet when she is laying still and I think she will turn into a nice dog.     

 
Sounds like you've been going through a very similar situation. Some rescue remedy might be just the thing for me!
 
The only thing is, I didn't feel like this AT ALL with Gingerbread. Yeah, I was exhausted from taking care of him and we had plenty of puppy issues. But right from the start I loved him more than life itself. I HAPPILY got up in the middle of the night to take care of him, because I wanted to spend time with him.
 
I'm going to try really hard though to give this guy a chance. I'm not sure how it's going to turn out, but I'm going to try.

I have no idea what your original post said so I can only go off of what's left of it and off of what I've read, I can only say that I hope you give it more time. I mean, if my parents had looked at me at a few months old and said, "Well, she's just not what I'm looking for. She's not what I was expecting", it would be a damn shame. I understand what  you're saying about distinct personality's, but he's 10 weeks old! You still have time to train him and channel that personality. I'm not trying to be hard on you, I'm really not. I wish you original post was still here. If it truly isn't working out and you honestly don't see it happening, then I do agree that you should give him back and let the breeder find him a family that better suits him.

I can tell you first handed by dogs I've gotten from breeers and my own who I've fallen in love with they do get ruined! It takes time to develop a routine and get them back on track. I have a pup at our house right now that was from our last frenchie litter. He went to his new home and she has him in puppy kindergarten as well as puppy agility. He is a very smart, active boy who was NOT house broken before he got here. His new momma is in Tenn at the Frenchie Nationals so we are keeping him while she is gone. He's been in his new home about 2 months I guess. Funny thing is the changes from when he left our home and what he's like now.
He is VERY vocal..something I'm not used to because our dogs are used to a quiet home. He has not had any accidents much to new momma's surprise. The biggest isse is his behavior to Juliet's behavior, if you remember her, she was the runt of our litter who I deemed to be a pet and ended up keeping..she is hell on four paws!!!! I didn't realize how bad she was until her brother got here...could be the same issues with your breeder as well...totally spoiled and used to getting his way.
 
Raising a pup isn't easy and some times it isn't fun. Personalities can be worked out most times with training and activity and this could very well be that this pup needs more to stimulate his mind and body(not reading the original post)
 
As a breeder myself, I would expect any pup I bred to be returned to me if the home was not working out, it's in my contract. Myself as most breeders do, will replace a pup IF it is returned, you might have to wait till the next litter and sometimes that can mean a year+ wait. Some breeders will refund your purchase price but most won't.
 
I hope this works out for you and your pup.

Luvntzus - DITTO!  I remember 10 years ago, I loved Holly more than life itself and I don't remember this incredibly hard time, neither can DH.   I do remember thinking "What have I got myself into"  with both Holly and now Lola, and our rescue Red 2 years ago.  But I was proud of Holly and I loved her from Week 3 when I first saw her.   I've never had a human baby, but this must be like it, only we do have the option of getting of rid of it unlike a human baby.  So to have a puppy that you don't have that strong bond with, makes you think this dog can't be the right dog.  All I can say is I think the bond will come,,I can feel the bond starting with me and the pup.   The first 2 weeks we had the rescue dog, we debated taking him back cause our Holly was so upset.  Holly,. Red, the cat and I took Rescue Remedy every day, several times a day for about a month.  But sometime during week2, I bonded with him and I said, 'he's our dog now" and that was it, he stayed.
 
Our pup is 5 months so we lost some valueable training time, but Cinabun is still very young and you can mold him.  Just take the RR and have a few drinks too to relax.  It will be ok one way or another. 
 
I would not put him back on a plane, I would find a nice home nearby (if it comes to that). 

This isn't strictly on topic, but I thought that the puppy temperament tests were just basically to test for the stability of the pup's temperament, how well they bounce back from being startled and how open to new experiences they are. It's not to say the adult dog's personality is already formed... just the rough outlines of how timid/even/outgoing they are likely to be....

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I can tell you first handed by dogs I've gotten from breeers and my own who I've fallen in love with they do get ruined! It takes time to develop a routine and get them back on track. I have a pup at our house right now that was from our last frenchie litter. He went to his new home and she has him in puppy kindergarten as well as puppy agility. He is a very smart, active boy who was NOT house broken before he got here. His new momma is in Tenn at the Frenchie Nationals so we are keeping him while she is gone. He's been in his new home about 2 months I guess. Funny thing is the changes from when he left our home and what he's like now.
He is VERY vocal..something I'm not used to because our dogs are used to a quiet home. He has not had any accidents much to new momma's surprise. The biggest isse is his behavior to Juliet's behavior, if you remember her, she was the runt of our litter who I deemed to be a pet and ended up keeping..she is hell on four paws!!!! I didn't realize how bad she was until her brother got here...could be the same issues with your breeder as well...totally spoiled and used to getting his way.

Raising a pup isn't easy and some times it isn't fun. Personalities can be worked out most times with training and activity and this could very well be that this pup needs more to stimulate his mind and body(not reading the original post)

As a breeder myself, I would expect any pup I bred to be returned to me if the home was not working out, it's in my contract. Myself as most breeders do, will replace a pup IF it is returned, you might have to wait till the next litter and sometimes that can mean a year+ wait. Some breeders will refund your purchase price but most won't.

I hope this works out for you and your pup.

 
Thank you for the advice!! There wouldn't be much of a wait for another puppy because she usually has 3 or 4 litters at any given time. 
 
I'm *trying* to hang in there with Cinnabun though.....