Proctor and Gamble being veeery tempting! lol

That's actually better than I imagined. Rather than just supervising the formulas they've had for years, you get to influence changes by keeping track of the market, etc, what the i-doggers are buying these days. Way cool.

Billy wrote:
"FINALLY, a voice of reason.  Something is VERY fishy about this story.

Think about it.  Not only is the offer MANY times the market for what I recall to be her degree credentials and experience, but someone, in essence, sticks their head in the door and says, "Hey, how about you come to work for us for a quarter of a million dollars a year."  Come on.  That ain't the way high level jobs are offered.

IMO, somebody is pulling somebody's leg on this one.  Who is the puller and who is the pullee, I will leave to your judgement. "
 
That's cutting it pretty close. I've had some decent job offers just from knowing someone who knows someone. It's called networking. My boss, with less experience and less license than I have, has been able to start a booming company in a depression just because people already know him but without any knowledge as to how he would be able to run a company.  In Papillon's case, she's already done post-graduate work that is publishable and evidently caught the eye of a food maker that wants to stay competitive. I think her interview was a little more involved but she didn't want to get tedious with details.
 


 

I'm happy for you and I think you should take it. If you don't like it or whatever, you can go to the other things you mentioned.

In my comment, I said it was high for an entry level position.  You later said it is for head of a dept. which certainly would not be entry level, so the higher salary makes more sense!

 I think it's wonderful that you can make such a great salary in your chosen profession. Getting a phD takes a lot of hard work and commitment; you've earned this offer.

I really appreciate the support! I still haven't made my decision as it will require me to move to Ohio, which I'm not too sure about...(that means moving my horse to a different training facility,  finding a house, being in a strange place, etc).  As Ron mentioned, my informal "interview" turned in to a 2 hour discussion about where I want to go with my research, etc, etc, I just thought it was unnecessary and tedious to type up every event of the moment...but anyways--

Like I mentioned before, I am talking with this person tommorow (again) to get some more details (I want to know more about the health benefits, etc)...we'll see what happens!

ORIGINAL: papillon806

Well, I don't have any obligation to spill out my resume to you just so you will respect that my hard work and research has indeed caught they eyes of a notable company. 

 
No, you certainly don't.  I have posited here why I think your story lacks credibility.  I even posted links, with starting salaries, of people with graduate degrees.  Those salaries are FAR below what you claim to have been offered.  If you want to leave all of that lay there, unchallenged, that is okay by me.
 
And exactly what is this "hard work" you refer to?  Aren't you a college kid, or weren't you, until maybe 10 minutes ago?  I know the pressure of trying to decide which party to attend this weekend can be intense but, trust me, the work you do in college pales when compared to that involved in a high level job.  []
 
As a sidebar, let me say that I get a kick out of SOME kids today.  In my day, when you graduated from college, you knew you still had to prove yourself and you still had to pay your dues.  Today, many kids seem to think that, just because they have earned their degree, they have already proved themselves and paid their dues.  All the rest of us need to do, in their mind, is hand them their just dues.  Not saying that applies to you, but it seems, to me, to be the attitude of MANY kids today.
 
I realize your story is evolving as we go here, but let's review some comments you have made and let me ask you some questions.
 
First, let me say that I think this thread should have been started in NDR.  It is about a job offer and has nothing to do with nutrition.  I would like to apologize to the people who might have started reading this thread thinking it would have anything whatever to do with nutrition.
 
>>I pretty much didn't show any interest until she said the starting salary was....are you ready? $250,000/year.....STARTING!<<
 
I think it is pretty clear, from the links I have already posted, that the salary you claim to have been offered is way beyond the norm for someone with your admirable qualifications.  Your only rebuttal to that was to say:
 
>>I have a friend who has been working there for 3 years and makes $375K a year <<
 
and
 
>>My friend's credentials are the same as mine<<
 
Not exactly a convincing rebuttal, IMO.  Perhaps you can post a link or two that would indicate the salary you are claiming is in line with someone with your, again, admirable, qualifications.  I certainly couldn't find it.
 
>>So....today an employee from Proctor and Gamble (Iams, eukanuba in case you don't know) came by the labs today asking for me....she said she wanted to see if I was interested in working for P&G when I graduate,<<
 
Let's analyze this statement.
 
Unless your story is going to continue to evolve, you have never had any contact with PG.  Based ONLY on...
 
>>They have a copy of my dissertation<<
 
...some "lady" from PG comes to your lab and offers you an employment contract with a starting salary of $250,000.  This, unless you left something out of your story, is your ONLY contact with PG up to that point.
 
I have, in my life, had 3, what I would describe as, high level jobs.  Not $250,000 jobs, but high level jobs nevertheless.  In one of those jobs, I reported to the board of directors.  Your story is inconsistent with my personal experience of how one is recruited for a job like this.
 
I would think, again based on my life experiences, that the process would be CONSIDERABLY more involved than that.  I would think that they, at a very minimum, would bring you to the job location and let you observe what goes on there.  I would think they would let you visit a little bit with the people who work in that department.  And I would certainly think that, before you were offered a job, you would be interviewed by the person you will report to, if for no more reason than to try to get an idea of whether or not your personalities will let you work together.  Yet, in your story, none of this happened.  Some lady just showed up at your door with an employment contract for a quarter of a million dollars a year, asking you to sign it.
 
Let's go on.
 
>>while the salary and benefits are beyond amazing,<<
 
Your story left "beyond amazing" in the dust long ago.  It has now entered the realm of "beyond believable,"  [] at least, to me.
 
>>I forgot to mention that the position would be the head of the department for research analysis and market comparison of their competitors.  She said they need someone who knows about what the market for dog food is these days, and what the company would need to be competitive with the growing market.  They need someone to dictate where their research money goes and to create new lab testing to come out w/ new products, etc. <<
 
Oh yeah, you did forget to mention that.  I, for one, am delighted that you FINALLY remembered it though because, of all your posts to this thread, this one is my personal favorite.
 
Let's see.  Of all the people in all the world or, of all the people at PG or, of all the people within this department at PG, YOU are the one they have deemed most qualified for this quarter of a million dollar job.  WOW!!!  Don't you wonder, WHY?  Don't you wonder what happened to all of the people who have spent years in this department and why no one there or within the entire PG empire is more qualified than someone, who hasn't even graduated yet, for this job?  Doesn't that seem a bit strange to you?
 
I have no idea why you would concoct a story like this, if, in fact, you did concoct it.  It really baffles me.  But another member of this board emailed me their opinion and it strikes me as plausible.  That member's opinion is that you have indeed been offered a job by PG.  You know that PG isn't a highly respected company by others on this board so, to make your accepting the job more palatable here, you decided to inflate your job responsibilities and the salary.  I will say, that makes sense to me.
 
I think I have made a pretty convincing argument outlining why I don't find your story to be credible.  If you choose to let my comments, throughout this thread, go unchallenged, that is up to you.  You won't be the first to choose not to engage me and my considerable, moderated forum, debating skills.  []  Notice, for example, how I NEVER attacked you personally, but I only attacked your post.  That's a fine line to walk, especially in this case but, once again, I have done it very well.  []

Uncalled for and very, very tacky. I thought better of you Billy.

Congrats again on getting your phD papillion, you've worked hard and now you get the rewards. [sm=clapping%20hands%20smiley.gif]

probe--do you really not have anything better to do?  Not everything is a conspiracy...

Thanks sooner

I am sorry to disappoint you but, when someone posts something here that I find to be ludicrous, I am going to challenge it.  If my doing so disappoints you, both of us will just have to live with it.

Well Good Lord, $250,000 is just a drop in the bucket compared to what we pay our pro athletes, and they don't have to know a dang thing ... don't need a degree in anything, don't even have to know how to string 3 words together to make a sentence. And most of them don't. Me thinks maybe someone could be a little envious?? And as far as doctors go, there's probably one heck of a difference between the salaries of an MD working for an HMO and a Beverly Hills plastic surgeon. []

Joyce

ORIGINAL: papillon806


Not everything is a conspiracy...

 
I am not contending that anything here is a conspiracy.  Not sure where that came from.  []

ORIGINAL: fuzzy_dogs_mom

Well Good Lord, $250,000 is just a drop in the bucket compared to what we pay our pro athletes, and they don't have to know a dang thing ... don't need a degree in anything, don't even have to know how to string 3 words together to make a sentence. And most of them don't. Me thinks maybe someone could be a little envious?? And as far as doctors go, there's probably one heck of a difference between the salaries of an MD working for an HMO and a Beverly Hills plastic surgeon. []

Joyce

 
Apples and oranges.  Pro athletes can do something VERY WELL that few people can do very well.
 
Envious of whom?  Pro athletes?  Not me.  Being an incredibly good and popular singer is more my cup of tea.  []

It sounds like a great offer but like Billy, I wonder what the catch is? It sounds too good to be true. I would ask why such a high paying position is being offered to someone who hasn't graduated yet and not offered to someone with the same credentials but with more seniority in the company. Before you sign anything, make sure you read the fine print and I fear that with such a high salary being offered, especially when the normal salary for that degree isn't as high, there is going to be some fine print and it may be something that you do not agree with.

Billy, a lot of people do something very well that very few other people can do. The doctor that did DH's quadruple bypass 8 years does his job very well too. And his salary, which is probably very good indeed, would probably keep the average pro athlete supplied with his drug of choice for a couple of weeks.

Joyce