Question for those of you with long marriages

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    ORIGINAL: probe1957

    ORIGINAL: MhadDog

    If you need my Number,please contact Billy's wife....[:)]


    That is VERY offensive.  Speaking of wive's, did you get that $20 I left on your nightstand the other night?  [:D]


     actually she doesnt let me have any money,so no..

    P.S..sorry i drank the beer in your refrigerator..i will restock them when i get a call to bring over the sausage delivery..
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    [sm=rotfl.gif]Mark and Billy
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    Gina why are you asking this question, what made you think of it?
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    ORIGINAL: debv53

    [sm=rotfl.gif]Mark and Billy


    Please forgive me Deb,i have been called encourageable and billy is a bad influence...
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    ORIGINAL: MhadDog


    And i can tell you honestly that after all these 16 + years that i have known my wife,i still love her as much as when we first met.i still have a hard time showing it as much as i should,because i let pressures from outside keep me from thinking of whats important...somedays you have to take a deep breath and tell the people you love what they mean to you..

     
    What pukey romance novel did you copy that drively crap from?  [&o]
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    ORIGINAL: MhadDog

    when i get a call to bring over the sausage delivery..

     
    She did indeed say something about the sausage man.  Specifically, the "Vienna Sausage Man."  Is that you?  Reckon why in the world she would call you something like that?  [8|]
     
    PS.  If we don't get in any trouble for this exchange, keep your eyes open, right here in good ol' NDR, for my upcoming documentary entitled, "Why Women (almost) Universally Hate the 'C' Word."
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    ORIGINAL: MhadDog
    i have been called encourageable

     
    I believe the word you meant to use was INCORRIGIBLE.  [:D]
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    I met my boyfriend when I was 17, lived together for 10 yrs, married for 18yrs.
    Total 28 years, separated for 2 years, finally divorced 4/7/06
    Have 2 sons, 30 and 20 yrs old, learned alot, Found a wonderful man who listens, is caring, giving, and just wonderful.
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    I am so glad that I stumbled onto this thread, I am actually getting married in less than a month.  As Tashkota said, the  grass is not always greener on the other side.  When I have to hear of my single friend's going on dates and being treated horrible, I am glad I have my man.  I am only 25 and getting married very early, but lived a crazy existence during college, (seriously) and my fiancee picked me up from the floor and made me such a better person.  I attribute all of my success to him. 
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    I was 32 when I married my 1st husband and frankly I just married a 'friend' simply because I was so darned tired of being a-l-o-n-e ALL the time (and I'm an only child which further added to the "sick of being ALONE" thing). 
     
    I had ZERO experience with men at the time and didn't see some huge and broad PROBLEMS before we married (him being a pathological liar and having some major emotional problems for starters).  I stayed with him for 10 years essentially because I knew without me he'd self-destruct.  Finally I figured out not only was he an adult and needed to accept responsibility for himself and that he'd just drag me into the toilet with him AND I had to realize that my biggest problem was "needing to be needed" by a needy person.  DUMB.
     
    That being said, I got alone and got SANE.  And I met David in the meanwhile.  My husband is not an American, and that makes a huge difference in this particular case.  He'd never been married (which scared the tar out of me).
     
    But the operative detail is the fact that we met online (yep, back in the bad old days when you didn't pay to be part of a singles chat room *grin*) so we had to learn to communicate.  We also had to learn to have fun and make time for each other (not to dictate what each other did -- being with someone 'normal' was a whole new deal for me ... I didn't have to tell him to breathe!! Wow!!)
     
    For me the big deal is we're better together than we are apart.  He IS the best part of me.  HE makes me better simply because he's 'him'.  10 years of a LOT of learning.  We re-newed our vows at 5 years (his idea -- in fact we planned it when we were on our honeymoon the first time).  And next March we'll do it again.  We try really hard to have 'fun' at least once a week. 
     
    But I think part of the 'big deal' is we made a promise to each other on our honeymoon -- that we'd always try to 'out do' each other in being good to each other.  The little things we both 'do' that we don't really LIKE to do, but we do simply because we know the other will perceive it as a nice thing he/she did for ME. 
     
    I can honestly say I love him more now than I did 10 years ago.  And coming from someone who was pretty badly abused in my first relationship, that's saying a lot -- because when you truly 'love' someone that gives them enormous power over you ... and once burned you can be really scaredy of that 'power' ... but at the same time, I took a big 'risk' to trust this man and it was a good one.
     
    Our most difficult time?  The beginning was tough -- The whole immigration/INS thing was nerve-wracking and David didn't have a "college degree" (but was making enormous money in the UK which he LEFT to come here and live with me).  He humbled himself doing temp accounting work (often being no more than a glorified copy clerk) but he worked constantly.  (my first husband's answer to everything wasn't to work himself but for me to get ANOTHER job -- even going from two jobs to THREE if *he* needed more money). 
     
    This year has been tough -- he's worked huge hours, and he lost his Dad last year at Easter and his sister 2 months ago.  Add to that the frenzy with Billy's illness and both of us being so tired we could weep most of the time -- but because we stick with some basic ground rules (like I never EVER eat dinner without him even if I wait til 2:00 a.m. to eat) -- it's not a big deal to sacrifice for each other when we know both of us are trying to still 'out do' the other to be good to each other.  Make it not only tolerable but GRAND.
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    ORIGINAL: lokis_mom

    Being half a world away from your best friend and partner is so hard. Which is why the military has such a high divorce rate. But again the key is communication.


    Terri, I can totally relate to that. I'm not married and don't have any plans to become that way anytime soon, but I've been seeing my current boyfriend for the last 3 years and we're pretty happy. It's been terribly frustrating, though. For the first couple of years of the relationship, we lived about 3 hours drive from one another, so we only got to catch up every month or so. We'd have holidays together and our relationship swung wildly from not seeing each other at all to being together 24/7 for a week or so. When I finally decided to move to Sydney with him, suddenly all our plans got turned upside down. He got sent overseas for a long project and I missed out on my PhD scholarship I was trying to get. I did get to spend a few months living with him over in LA, but much of the last 12 months has been trying to catch him online in the 2 hours in every 24 that we're both awake and at home. It makes you feel a tad bitter about all the couples that simply come together, make a simple decision to move in together and just do it. It's been far from easy for us and we're still working on it. He's finally back in Sydney, and I've decreased the distance between us to a 90 minute drive, but I'm yet to get work in Sydney and he's still waiting to see if they're going to need him back in America soon, so he's staying with his brother.

    I never would have imagined moving in with someone would be so freaking complicated and difficult!
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    I have talked to my mom a lot about what I should do and cried about it when I did decide to tell him to go.  I think I was just scared of doing the wrong thing.  The thing we did realize is that nothing is right or wrong it will just be different.  Its not that I think the grass is greener its just that I dont think its fair that Ive never been to that grass in order to pick which grass I want.  How do I know which grass if Ive only tried one??  [:)]    Anyway... he is becoming insecure about the way I am feeling, and its making me feel it more.  He is childish and I identify a lot with Callie when she says "I didnt have to tell him to breathe!".  That would be nice.  Most of the time lately I feel like a mother instead of a wife.   In one of our arguments I said something about how its not easy and he doesnt get off not trying and he said something like well he was just used to things being easy all the time and not having to do anything.  I about died.  

    I guess my mind has been racked and racked over this that Ive gone into an I dont care anymore one way or the other frame of mind.  That wont work in the long run and I know it.  As my mom said I need to be in it or out of it...  Im trying. 

    You know, on another hand... after 12 years and being so young it may help us BOTH to realize what we really want in life and verify that its each other or if it is to be apart.  I dont know.  Im so confused.  Feels good to let it out because I keep this stuff bottled up all the time.  Im not comfortable admitting anything is wrong to anyone but since I dont know yall personally its not the same lol.

    Matter of fact two nights ago I said we should try being apart and he got mad and went to bed but in the morning was saying how we can do this.  I guess Im just lost as to what to do and it sucks no one can tell me but me.  I love him more than myself, thats not good and another aspect as to why I need to do this.  Its always been that way.  I realize now as an adult its caused a lot of insecurities within myself... Im incredibly insecure with myself.  I dont know who I am alone and thats scary.  We are just together, its all I know.   Im rambling now.... lol  

    I just cant explain how back and forth I go over it.  And like Callie said... I am scared of being alone, I never have been.  I have slight control issues, maybe its giving up control thats hard.  I at least have control right now, if I change this I dont have it anymore.  And when you love someone so much you just dont want to hurt them and the hope never goes away.
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    ORIGINAL: MhadDog

    ORIGINAL: debv53

    [sm=rotfl.gif]Mark and Billy



    Please forgive me Deb,i have been called encourageable and billy is a bad influence...



    You may not have meant encourageable, but INCORRIGIBLE!  Are you SURE we need to encourage you? ROFLMAO

    DH amd I will celebrate 25 years of our marriage on Dec. 19th. We met in Oct, 1978, started dating in Dec and dated for a year and a half.  We then moved in together in May, 1980.  We lived together for a year and a half and then got married.

    We have had some ups and downs, but, through it all, I still want to be married to DH for the rest of my life. Generally, we work things out, but every once in awhile, we have a big blow up. He comes from a family with LOTS more money than mine and the urge to spend gets to him every so often.  I am begging him NOT to spend and then we usually end up with me yelling and him sulking.  Nobody can put on a sulk like a 46 YO  "boy" who wants a new toy!

    We work very hard to do a good job parenting our kids and (I think) are doing a pretty decent job of it. I get tired of being the "bad cop" most of the time, but hey, somebody's got to do it!
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    I married young the first time.....it lasted about 8 years, but took almost two years to divorce the SOB.  Being of the age that I am, my generation didn't not take divorce lightly, and I put up with the cheating, the drinking, the drugs, the huge ego, AND the abuse until my 3 year old son apologized for not being able to protect me from daddy.  That was it.  We walked.  But it wasn't easy getting out.
     
    I had my wild child days then......before I met DH, but basically, the only "hard" times we had were the first few months....me getting used to his overprotectiveness, and me getting used to having someone give a spit if I got home a few minutes late, not because they wanted something, but because he WORRIED.  And, he had to get used to my fierce independence.  I'd been on my own for over two years, raising two young boys alone, and had gotten ME back after the first mess I got out of.
     
    We actually first got together the weekend after Thanksgiving, he gave me a ring for Christmas and we got married in May...about 2 weeks after my divorce was final.  And that was 24 years ago.  We've been through a LOT of stuff together, but it makes our marriage stronger.
     
    Yesterday, he stayed home later than normal...I had a busy day, DS was in town already since he'd taken my Mom to the hospital and stayed at her house when he left there at 2am......so Todd stayed home so the dogs wouldn't have to spend as long in crates, and then he came home early and had dinner ready for me when I got home at about 8PM.  Now that's devotion.
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    Deb,
     
    This year's seemed  a bit harder than others. In review, minor bumps...a disagreement yesterday. Stuff like that. He's a people pleaser and non-confrontational and I love to argue and sabotage things. It frustrates me when he will not take bait or just caves then I start thinking mean things like how unmanly that is...
     
    ALL my issues, none really on his part. My expectations that men yell and throw things and even hit based on what I grew up with, that they cannot be counted on or trusted. No such issues here and it leaves me without anything to do but nit pick...lol.
     
    Given the sort of things that could be wrong (like above)they're quite minor. The respect on his part is there, the faithfulness, the support, the communication, the willingness to bend over backwards to get me something I want, he does the dishes and cleans the house...so I should cut him some slack. [;)]
     
    I see that now...reading all this. So it's helped a lot. We're on year 6 as of October...together for 8 counting our chat room days.
     
    Thanks all!