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    Cut and pasted straight from the UKC.
    Characteristics

      The essential characteristics of the American Pit Bull Terrier are strength, confidence, and zest for life. This breed is eager to please and brimming over with enthusiasm. APBTs make excellent family companions and have always been noted for their love of children. Because most APBTs exhibit some level of dog aggression and because of its powerful physique, the APBT requires an owner who will carefully socialize and obedience train the dog. The breed's natural agility makes it one of the most capable canine climbers so good fencing is a must for this breed. The APBT is not the best choice for a guard dog since they are extremely friendly, even with strangers. Aggressive behavior toward humans is uncharacteristic of the breed and highly undesirable. This breed does very well in performance events because of its high level of intelligence and its willingness to work.

      The American Pit Bull Terrier has always been capable of doing a wide variety of jobs so exaggerations or faults should be penalized in proportion to how much they interfere with the dog's versatility.

       I would cull an APBT for human aggression. Human aggression has never been a recognized trait in the APBT.
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    but thousands of horrible ones for one good one

     
    i disagree. i would say thousands of good ones for one horrible one. I'm sure someone has some stats somewhere...
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    What about other breeds used for fighting?  There are other fighting breeds than pit bulls, you know.  Why don't we ban them.  And then why not those breeds that are bred as guard dogs and protection dogs.  They could be dangerous too.  Let's ban them as well- GSDs and dobes, etc.  And what about hunting dogs?  Breeds bred as hog dogs or such?  Ban them?  Then what about hounds?  They can have high prey drive.  And oh yeah, herders can nip at your heels too which could hurt a little kid.  And then gundogs, well... some of them are big and they all have teeth so they could bite.  So yup, let's ban them too.  And so on and so on. 
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    Laurelin, you may have a point.  Maybe we should ban all dogs.  That will likely be the only way that Bob will be happy. 
     
    I wonder if he's a big PETA supporter?
     
    So Bob, are you or are you not in support of BSL???
    What breed is your dog?
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    Laurelin, you may have a point.  Maybe we should ban all dogs.  That will likely be the only way that Bob will be happy. 

    I wonder if he's a big PETA supporter?

    So Bob, are you or are you not in support of BSL???
    What breed is your dog?


    You know, my worst animal related injury was from a cat.  It was totally unprovoked.  Can we ban cats too?  Please?

    So Bob, are you or are you not in support of BSL???
    What breed is your dog?
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    but thousands of horrible ones for one good one


    i disagree. i would say thousands of good ones for one horrible one. I'm sure someone has some stats somewhere...

     
         Come on up to the Bronx, THEN tell me this.
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    EddieO my worst animal related injury was sustained from a cat as well.  I totally agree that we should ban cats.
     
    So Bob, are you or are you not in support of BSL???
    What breed is your dog?
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    EddieO my worst animal related injury was sustained from a cat as well.  I totally agree that we should ban cats.

    So Bob, are you or are you not in support of BSL???
    What breed is your dog?


     
    Actually, my worst animal injury was from a hamster.... what about them?  He drew a lot of blood. 
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    but thousands of horrible ones for one good one


    i disagree. i would say thousands of good ones for one horrible one. I'm sure someone has some stats somewhere...


        Come on up to the Bronx, THEN tell me this.

     
    Well come up to where I live and tell me there is 1000's of bad oens to every good 1. You live in the bronx. I have been there, and have heard enough to know it is a ghetto. Where I'm sur epeople use dogs as status symbols, same as cars and gold chains. Where I lvie I have yet to meet any terrible pitbulls. Offcourse there is some attacks, but few and so far between they dont make up much. The last one the people think it was a pitbull as they dont know and it ran away, after it attacked their ofleash chi, who they said went after the dog first.
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    EddieO my worst animal related injury was sustained from a cat as well.  I totally agree that we should ban cats.

    So Bob, are you or are you not in support of BSL???
    What breed is your dog?



    Actually, my worst animal injury was from a hamster.... what about them?  He drew a lot of blood. 

     
    Ha! My worst bite was from my flying squirrel. Crazy little bugger got mad because he went inside of my shirt and was running up and down my back. When I finally got a hold of him, he put the chomp on me. I guess we better ban rodents as pets now. [:D]
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    ORIGINAL: Laurelin_429

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    EddieO my worst animal related injury was sustained from a cat as well.  I totally agree that we should ban cats.

    So Bob, are you or are you not in support of BSL???
    What breed is your dog?



    Actually, my worst animal injury was from a hamster.... what about them?  He drew a lot of blood. 

     
    I got a terrible black eye from a iguana tail, how about we ban them.
     
    Or I poped my ear drum 9still can hardly hear out of it) cleaning out a horses stall. Should we ban horses now too as it was their mess I was cleaning lol
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    Hi,
    Please know that I am not in any way defending people who let their dogs (of any breed) run loose. I also realize that when it is a pitbull it does pose a realistic threat to other dogs (that is many times their nature). But as I re-read your different post it really sounds to me like a majority of the issue in your area is the authority or lack of. I realize that AC is often very very slow to respond and even then at times are not helpful at all. What I am saying is maybe your energy would be well spent trying to get a number of other residents that are dealing with the same issue. But I would advise that you not lose sight of what the issue really is, it is not pitbulls in your town. It is owners not being responsible with their property, it is your apparent lack of dedicated AC, it is the police who are showing no concern for the safety of the community. The "pitbull" issue is simply a symptom of a much deeper problem. It is obvious that certain people in your town have figured out that the laws will not be enforced so they are doing what ever they want. I'm not pretending that this should be your one man battle but I also don't agree with taking superficial steps do address serious issues. I understand that you don't know me from a hole in the wall so there is no way for me to really make you believe that I am probably one of the most careful people with my dogs. I understand that being the owner of a pitbull and a rottie puts extra responsibility on me, one that I take very seriously. I understand these are power breeds and I must keep my neighbors safe, not just by treating the dogs right so they don't become aggressive but also by properly restraining them and supervising them. I also have a responsibility to other dog owners, my actions have a direct effect on how society views these breeds and I will not in any way contribute to the problem. I also have a responsibilty to my dogs. I love my dogs very much and I know that many people have a negative opinion of them so I am aware that if they were to ever get loose or frighten anyone they would run the risk of being put down. I will protect my dogs from this fate with everything I have. I don't even allow them to repeatedly bark because I don't want them to be annoying to neighbors any more then I would want to listen to someone elses dog bark all day. In short, getting rid of a breed of dog because some people are irresponsible idiots is as foolish as saying because many people abuse prescription drugs and die from them we should stop providing them to people who use them responsibly. 
     
    Elayne

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    is that you are going to walk up to a couple of teenage gangbangers with their Pits towing them around  and tell them that you are going to show them how to walk their dog......  (This I got to see).  I hope your health insurance is paid up.....


    I have approached these types of dog owners on a few occasions.ALL i see is the dog,not who's holding th eleash.When it comes to dogs and children i will never,ever turn a blind eye.If i see either mistreated then i will speak up! I talk first and think about the 'consequences' later.

    The latest episode was with the local drug dealer and his puppy,pitbull incidentally.The dog had run off and this guy was screaming and yelling for it to come back,the dog was obviously petrified,half the neighbourhood were watching as he was causing that much of a commotion.Anyway long story short,the por dog eventually came back,and he got a kick for it [:@]
    I just blurted out "HEY",and told him he just punished his dog for returning to him,i then asked him if i called him and everytime he came over i would slap him accross the face,would he eventually stop coming? There is absolutely zip people can say when asked this question because they know they are in the wrong [:D] Anyway he hurtled a few profanities at me,which i gave straight back to him,and i told him if i ever see him hurt his dog again then he would regret it,and off we went.
    If someone witnesses abuse happening to chidren,dogs or any defensless creature it is their duty to step in IMHO.

    So Bob,how come you wont answer the 2 questions that people have asked you the most?

    1)are you or are you not in support of BSL?

    2)What breed is your dog?

    The more you avoid answering these most simple of questions the more curious i am to know the answers

    As for my opinion on pittbulls,i take them each on an individual basis.Although i have to say i have met more friendly ones than not,and not one who was people aggressive.I am more afraid for my dogs if an aggressive one is loose than i am for my own safety.

    I have bullmastiff's,do you hate them too?
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    I`m going to replay from a person that has never met a Pit Bull Terrier as of yet. What a sheltered live that I live. I live where either you have small dogs or hunting dogs. Labs are all over the place around here and are the main dogs with a mix in them at the HS near my town. Would I be scared of a Pit bull - no - why? - I`ve never meet one and I will not be afraid of something I have never encountered. All dog are dogs no matter what breed they are. Each dog is no different no matter what breed they are. It is how they are raised by their owner that makes the difference. I know of a black lab that bit. It did need stitches and was in the face of a child. Do I fear this dog that did this - No. I am around this dog a lot and I have never had fear when around her before or afterwords. Would I fear her around little kids - You bet I would. Has she ever bit again - No she hasen`t. 

    I have another story about some Rotties. Two nicest dogs you would ever meet. The third wanted to kill anyone or anything she came in conduct with. I know this because the three dogs got out of the fence and I was going to put them back in for the owner and the old female came around the corner of the house and charged me. I got my window up just in time as she hit my window to get at me. The other two Rotties are the best dogs ever. So Its not the breed its the dog and the training the dog has had. By the way the owners of the three Rotties trained the two good ones. The third one was just brought to the house in the condition that she was in to hopefully try and help her with training.

    Am I afraid of Rotties now - no - I know that every dog is different even if they are the same breed - it the owner and the training that makes the difference in the dog.