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Posted : 9/6/2007 9:38:00 AM

ORIGINAL: DumDog

ORIGINAL: Elayne

Hi, I'm new to this forum (my name is Elayne) but I guess I am going to really get my feet wet and jump right into this topic. I would ask everyone for only 1 moment to dismiss the "breed" of the dog and see what the real issue is re: this old man being attacked. If dog attacks are as common as you say in your area then I would suggest that every responsible adult in your community get together and march right into your town hall and DEMAND that your city officials do their job and enforce leash laws, dangerous dog laws and impose stiff fines and punishment for any dog owner who does not take his responsibility seriously. If resident in your town are truley in fear of any dogs that are running loose then you have a right and an obligation to hold your town officials accountable. I am the owner of a 7yr old female APBT and an 8 yr old male Rottie. I recognize the fact that many, many people are afraid of my dogs due to their breed. I have had my fur babies since they were very young, they have never bitten anyone and I make sure that they never will because I am responsible. They have a very secure enclosed area to exercise, they are never left even in the fenced yard un-supervised, I would no more let one of my dogs off leash then walk blindfolded on a highway. I recognize that they (because they are dogs not because of their breeds) could end up in a situation that could cause them to attack. ie: in unfamiliar area, un-supervised, taunted, injured etc. I have no intention of allowing my dogs to end up in this sort of situation. I am not the least bit un-sympathetic to what you are going through in your community but please don't fool yourself into thinking that banning any of these dogs will solve your problem. People who are ignorant enough to allow their pets to run loose and pose a threat to the public will simply get another breed and do the same thing. Let your officials know that they either do their jobs or you will vote someone in that will. And please believe me, no one hates an irresponsible pitbull owner more then a responsible one.

Elayne i agree with you and already told bob pretty much the same thing... rather i asked him if he was actually trying to help people be better dog owners or was he hiding from the bigbad pit bulls... and he said i was insulting him and being rude [8|] soooo..... just to warn you.. he'll probably say the same thing to you too...

but YES i agree!! if pit bulls and bad owners are THAT bad in the area then what ever happened to old fashioned march into the court room with a crowd and demand something to be done??

So, I think what you are saying , is that you are going to walk up to a couple of teenage gangbangers with their Pits towing them around and tell them that you are going to show them how to walk their dog......[sm=lol.gif] (This I got to see). I hope your health insurance is paid up.....

As far as people walking into court and demanding something be done, that is what is happening in many subdivions in the area, but the demand is no more PB's allowed. We have many apartment and Townhomes and Condo's in our area, most of them also ban PB's.

timsdat

Posted : 9/6/2007 9:38:03 AM

try to stop it from happening.

If the dog hasn't bitten someone how do you know that it will happen. I really don't know how you stop an event that hasn't occured yet.

cyclefiend2000

Posted : 9/6/2007 9:39:55 AM

I really don't know how you stop an event that hasn't occured yet.

magic wands and fairy dust are quite effective.

Bobsk8

Posted : 9/6/2007 9:43:19 AM

ORIGINAL: timsdat

try to stop it from happening.

If the dog hasn't bitten someone how do you know that it will happen. I really don't know how you stop an event that hasn't occured yet.

If you had a pedophile living in your area, what would you do, wait until he attacked a kid?

whtsthfrequency

Posted : 9/6/2007 9:46:40 AM

If you had a pedophile living in your area, what would you do, wait until he attacked a kid?

By definition, if you know a person in your neighborhood is a pedophile, then they must have already done something to be labeled as such. And you have a reason to be cautious.

A dog that has bitten before? Yes, be cautious.

Just a bad comparison between a dog that hasn't done anything yet, and a person who has done something already.

cyclefiend2000

Posted : 9/6/2007 9:48:18 AM

If you had a pedophile living in your area, what would you do, wait until he attacked a kid?

how is a person a pedophile before they have commited a crime? do you see them in your crystal ball or something?

Bobsk8

Posted : 9/6/2007 9:51:00 AM

ORIGINAL: cyclefiend2000

If you had a pedophile living in your area, what would you do, wait until he attacked a kid?

how is a person a pedophile before they have commited a crime? do you see them in your crystal ball or something?

No crystal ball, just go to this site and plug in your zip code.

http://www.registeredoffenderslist.org/?engine=adwords!3475&keyword=%28pedophiles%29&match_type=&gclid=CK3agdCJr44CFQUoZAodf1MVaA

timsdat

Posted : 9/6/2007 9:53:43 AM

No crystal ball, just go to this site and plug in your zip code.

Again, these are people that have allready committed the crime.

Again I ask, If the dog has never bitten someone how do you know that it will??????

Bobsk8

Posted : 9/6/2007 9:54:54 AM

ORIGINAL: whtsthfrequency

If you had a pedophile living in your area, what would you do, wait until he attacked a kid?

By definition, if you know a person in your neighborhood is a pedophile, then they must have already done something to be labeled as such. And you have a reason to be cautious.

A dog that has bitten before? Yes, be cautious.

Just a bad comparison between a dog that hasn't done anything yet, and a person who has done something already.

How would one know if a dog has bitten before?

cyclefiend2000

Posted : 9/6/2007 9:55:28 AM

you are referring to people who have previously commited a crime and paid the price through jail time.

the dogs you are referring to may not have ever bitten anyone before and may not ever bite anyone. you are just scared of them. know one can help you get over your fears but you. seek help please.

Bobsk8

Posted : 9/6/2007 10:03:29 AM

ORIGINAL: cyclefiend2000

you are referring to people who have previously commited a crime and paid the price through jail time.

the dogs you are referring to may not have ever bitten anyone before and may not ever bite anyone. you are just scared of them. know one can help you get over your fears but you. seek help please.

That wasn't my question. Why are you trying to avoid answering it? I will ask it once more,

I have a question for you, should we let the dogs bite a kid first and then do something about it, or try to stop it from happening. You statements seem to indicate that you favor the first alternative. If that is the case, how do you go about explaining that to the kid and it's family?

cyclefiend2000

Posted : 9/6/2007 10:07:51 AM

i was avoiding your question. i found it unfounded.

how do you stop a dog from attacking a child? i ask... how do you know it will attack a child?

i have never seen the "child killer" breed of dog. can you tell me where to find out what one looks like?

your dog looks kind of aggressive to me. can you assure me it will not attack?

willowchow

Posted : 9/6/2007 10:11:10 AM

Again I ask, If the dog has never bitten someone how do you know that it will??????

Well, my dog has never bitten anyone but I'm pretty sure she would (especially a kid) put in a situation where she wasn't controlled.

BOB--Why would this kid and family be near this dog that would bite? If any family or kid tried to come near my dog they'd catch holy heck from me. And, honestly, if she was alone for some reason they'd probably have to physically chase after her for them to be close enough. I'm just not sure most dogs are just going to run up to a group of people and start biting.

I mean I agree the dogs are not innocent in all this. But, at some point people need to take responsibility too. If they are going to act like idiots then they are going to get themselves hurt.

DPU

Posted : 9/6/2007 10:12:01 AM

ORIGINAL: Bobsk8

I have a question for you, should we let the dogs bite a kid first and then do something about it, or try to stop it from happening. You statements seem to indicate that you favor the first alternative. If that is the case, how do you go about explaining that to the kid and it's family?

Interesting question and always a delimma with shelter dogs when you don't have their history.

Bobsk8, how does your shelter handle this?

KCSO

Posted : 9/6/2007 10:14:52 AM

ORIGINAL: Bobsk8
That wasn't my question. Why are you trying to avoid answering it? I will ask it once more,

I have a question for you, should we let the dogs bite a kid first and then do something about it, or try to stop it from happening. You statements seem to indicate that you favor the first alternative. If that is the case, how do you go about explaining that to the kid and it's family?

Personally I'd be content in a world where pitbulls were banned, but your "logic" in these threads makes me want to fight for their rights.

Another Neighbor attacked