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ORIGINAL: eley

Architect - person that went to college and got a degree in architecture

Architecture expert - person that knows a lot about architecture, but we're not sure how or where he/she learned. Also, there are no set standards as to what qualifies you as an expert, so for all we know in some cases knowing who Frank Lloyd Wright is and being able to describe a couple of his creations qualifies you as an expert.


I know, I know....we're talking about dogs, how dare I bring up an analogy that is not specific to dogs and Cesar Millan?, shame on me. I'm also aware that that is only my worthless opinion.

I wouldn't say you opinion is worthless. Just wayyyyy off base here. Wayyyyy off. lol

I wouldn't say you opinion is worthless. Just wayyyyy off base here. Wayyyyy off. lol

I can see how someone that can't seem to see beyond their own nose could not see how it relates.......

I would try to explain it, but i'm sure that no matter what I say, the simple fact that I'm saying it will make it either wrong, pointless or off base in your mind. I'm pretty sure everyone else got it though.

  Scout in Canada

 erhaps in a perfct controlled world you can say that, but this is the real world, and people are going to run into other dogs, and they need *real life solutions* not what someone *thinks* they can do in a perfect setting. And *no* we are not, just discussing "Scaredy Dog" here, we're discussing DA dogs of all types, and, I did mention several times ***I'm actually*** more interested in extreme aggression cases. By the way, some dogs that are DA can also be HA, and if *your* the one handling these cases, and again, people that do handle them know there's a chance of getting bit no matter what you do, and it would be foolish to think otherwise.

ORIGINAL: espencer

ORIGINAL: Awsomedog


I've seen him take one off his/her front feet when their going to or are trying to attack, which anyone who ***actually*** works with aggressive dogs knows that's how you stop the bite

So if a dog is going to bite me should i grab one of his front legs? why is that? what should the person do after grabbing the leg? lease explain, that could save my life one day []

LOL Dork. You know I meant *seen him take a dog off their two front feet using the leash*. Not "hang them". []

 
 

I've seen him take one off his/her front feet when their going to or are trying to attack, which anyone who ***actually*** works with aggressive dogs knows that's how you stop the bite

 
You mean someone who ***actually*** works with aggressive dogs like you?  That#%92s what you tell us anyway.  Haven#%92t seen any proof of that.  Asked for it, never got it.  It's like I am talking to Cesar himself, EXCEPT Cesar would be able to discuss why he does what he does.
 

Well let's be honest - this is an internet forum. With some exceptions, most of us don't know each other outside of the internet. You claim to be a dog trainer who deals with a lot of aggressive dogs. None of us knows if this is fact or just a dream of yours. Same with everyone else on the board. So why don't we talk about the way we feel is correct to deal with dog issues, and stop putting down other members because you feel you're more qualified than them. Saying "I actually deal with aggressive dogs, so I know what I'm talking about" is a dead-end post and really it's up to the viewer to decide who seems to know what they're talking about.

 
It#%92s a dream…………………………   I think he is a wanna be and has nothing better to do than watch Cesar and pretend on a dog forum that he is Cesar.

 
If you notice all the replies are mimicked by something I have seen on the "Dog Whisper" 

My mentor (in business, not dog related at all), once told me, that you can tell how much a person knows by the way he/she addresses others. A person that repeatedly offers his/her credentials, statements claiming superiority over others or a person that simply belittles others based on what they know or think they know, is usually a clear sign of frustration. This frustration usually comes from someone that tried and didn't actually make it. A person that has true knowledge will either share it without making others feel like they are inferior, or flat out walk away from a conversation.

ORIGINAL: Scout in Canada
I think we need to stop focusing so much on who says they're a trainer, who deals with this, who deals with that. Your response to almost every post is "I deal with really extreme aggression and you don't, so you don't know what you're talking about."

Well let's be honest - this is an internet forum. With some exceptions, most of us don't know each other outside of the internet. You claim to be a dog trainer who deals with a lot of aggressive dogs. None of us knows if this is fact or just a dream of yours. Same with everyone else on the board. So why don't we talk about the way we feel is correct to deal with dog issues, and stop putting down other members because you feel you're more qualified than them. Saying "I actually deal with aggressive dogs, so I know what I'm talking about" is a dead-end post and really it's up to the viewer to decide who seems to know what they're talking about.

Ok, I'm really trying to get there with you, but we keep running into the same problem. I'm really very sorry that it upsets people when I say "I work with extreme cases". I know this is the interenet and anyone can say anything. The problem is, it's a simple fact that if someone has been specializing in a certain field for years their going to know more than the average person. you can believe what you want about me but it won't change the fact that I do what I say I do. And when I see someone constantly being bashed by those who don't, won't, or can't do it, is just rediculous. It reminds me of the days when we'd get someone who thought they were some hot shot dog trainer in one of out scent detection classes. They'd come in running off at the mouth only to find, that I could and did teach (just for that reason) a 12 year old how to handle a dog better than them. I was also smart enough (and it never bothered me) that as long as I had been studying and working with dogs, my mentor knew more than me. So I'm putting no one down, simply pointing out some facts that bother some.

Oh! and I'm sitting in the office all day sick. So that means I can sit on the computer as much as some others today. Otherwise my days are actually spent working with dogs. See! Not a shot, just a fact.[]

ORIGINAL: eley

I wouldn't say you opinion is worthless. Just wayyyyy off base here. Wayyyyy off. lol

I can see how someone that can't seem to see beyond their own nose could not see how it relates.......

I would try to explain it, but i'm sure that no matter what I say, the simple fact that I'm saying it will make it either wrong, pointless or off base in your mind. I'm pretty sure everyone else got it though.

You bet they did.[] LMAO

ORIGINAL: luvmyswissy


 
 

I've seen him take one off his/her front feet when their going to or are trying to attack, which anyone who ***actually*** works with aggressive dogs knows that's how you stop the bite

 
You mean someone who ***actually*** works with aggressive dogs like you?  That's what you tell us anyway.  Haven't seen any proof of that.  Asked for it, never got it.  It's like I am talking to Cesar himself, EXCEPT Cesar would be able to discuss why he does what he does.
 

Well let's be honest - this is an internet forum. With some exceptions, most of us don't know each other outside of the internet. You claim to be a dog trainer who deals with a lot of aggressive dogs. None of us knows if this is fact or just a dream of yours. Same with everyone else on the board. So why don't we talk about the way we feel is correct to deal with dog issues, and stop putting down other members because you feel you're more qualified than them. Saying "I actually deal with aggressive dogs, so I know what I'm talking about" is a dead-end post and really it's up to the viewer to decide who seems to know what they're talking about.

 
It's a dream…………………………   I think he is a wanna be and has nothing better to do than watch Cesar and pretend on a dog forum that he is Cesar.


If you notice all the replies are mimicked by something I have seen on the "Dog Whisper" 

And the other shoe drops. I love when people show who they really are. LOL
BTW it will probably make you feel better to think that, so you just stick with it.[]

ORIGINAL: eley

My mentor (in business, not dog related at all), once told me, that you can tell how much a person knows by the way he/she addresses others. A person that repeatedly offers his/her credentials, statements claiming superiority over others or a person that simply belittles others based on what they know or think they know, is usually a clear sign of frustration. This frustration usually comes from someone that tried and didn't actually make it. A person that has true knowledge will either share it without making others feel like they are inferior, or flat out walk away from a conversation.

That! like everything else is simply your mentors opinion, and doesn't make it right nor factual. A fact you seem to miss.[]

That! like everything else is simply your mentors opinion, and doesn't make it right nor factual. A fact you seem to miss.

yeah, I agree, I should only post cold hard facts, proven with unbiased, double, hell, lets make it triple blind, scientific tests like everyone else.

Perhaps in a perfct controlled world you can say that, but this is the real world, and people are going to run into other dogs, and they need *real life solutions* not what someone *thinks* they can do in a perfect setting

 
This isn't theory or "perfect controlled world". Plenty of people on this forum have dealt with their DA dogs this way (desensitization). I have dealt with my dogs reactivity this way. The author of Scaredy Dog dealt with her extremely DA dog this way. My own "real life" dog behaviorist has dealt with DA dogs this way.

Awsomedog
 
Does the business you own/work for have  website?  Would you provide a link?

Unlike you I have no twist. Someone goes to college, gets a degree and becomes a "behaviorist" that's the title the collage has chosen to give them. They can therefore call themself a Behaviorist.

 
 
Once again you#%92re wrong!!  A degree does not give you a title of behaviorist.  You may achieve a degree in some behavioral science but that doesn#%92t give you the label behaviorist.
 

ORIGINAL: eley

That! like everything else is simply your mentors opinion, and doesn't make it right nor factual. A fact you seem to miss.

yeah, I agree, I should only post cold hard facts, proven with unbiased, double, hell, lets make it triple blind, scientific tests like everyone else.

In your case, I'd agree.[] LOL