"Naturally Complete" from Purina's Dog Chow line ...

The one thing I do better than anything is survive. I'm worse than a cockroach.
 

The one thing I do better than anything is survive. I'm worse than a cockroach.
LOL!  After spending many weeks on vacation in a more than 100 year old home on Tybee Island,,,,,,,,    YIKES! 

Does Bubby come to Tybee, too?

Does Bubby come to Tybee, too?
Nope, Bubby never made it to Tybee. Actually we go there usually once a year but even though the house is on the beach, this is a golf vacation. The house is big enough for her,,,its a very very old three story home, and she would love the cockroaches,,,they would keep her busy all day while we are at golf!!!  LOL!!
Or do we call them Palmetto Bugs???????????

Palmettos are active during the day and fly, and they are HUGEmongous.  So if they fit that description, you had palmetto bugs.  It would be no consolation to me!!!  I despise the things with a passion.

The bad thing is that while you can keep regular roaches away by being tidy, palmettos nest in normal places - sewers, foundations, between the walls - and invade your house no matter how clean you keep it!  They are seeking damp cool places to rest.

I was at a hotel once where the tv had a nest of cockroaches in it.  We didn't realize it until we turned it on and, well, use your imagination.  I still think about it every time I turn on the tube at a hotel.  It was not a dumpy hotel, either.  It's even creeper when you don't expect it.

Pardon me if I mention that this long thread has gotten very, very odd. . . [sm=crazy.gif]

We call them roaches, in Georgia[]

Floridians and Becca call them Palmetto bugs.

Too bad Bubby doesn't come! I don't live so far from Tybee!

Purina claims to not use feathers, hoofs, beaks etc in their products.
 
I welcome the new foods and it means that what consumers want-they get.  Its a positive direction that should be applauded.  I still use ProPlan and Purina One because it works for my dog.  I am pleased with the results.  But remember my dog doesn't have a corn allergy either.  That is another story. 

Geez I am gone for a bit and I missed another Purina thread!
I received information on the new dog chow line but have not seen it in the stores yet here in IL.  I think one more factor not mentioned is a trust issue.  A comfort with an old long standing brand.  I am concerned about small upstart companies.  I will bet (and I am not a betting woman!) that they can't come close to quality control standards that the larger food companies can.  We have NEVER had a grain contamination problem in all the years Purina has made feed.  Feed for all sorts of domestic and farm animals.  The standards are high.  I trust that my dogs food is safe.  I love all the choices available to the consumers and think that makes everyone's products better.  The improvements in dog/cat food over the last five years is huge.  As people become more concerned with their diets, then their pets diets, the company listen.  They respond.  Sure its to make money.  Hell I want to make money too!  Its the American way.  But consumers do control the wave and direction taken in the market place.  Obviously if you don't want it, its gone rather quickly.  I agree I will not feed a corn first diet to my pets. But to those who do- I have seen hundreds of great looking, long living cats and dogs do very well on corn diets.  Come on by and I will give you coupons for them!  I like saving my customers money too.

I would have thought the smaller companies would have better QC as they arent churning out thousands of tonns of food per day,and of a hundred different varieties.Wouldnt it be easier to oversee a small company than a huge conglomerate?

Edie--You would think, but that hasn't been my experience at all.

Actually quality control had never entered my mind until all that came up about Diamond dog food, and then wham, bam, thank you ma'am I am reading all these reports of other companies having recalls for one reason or another.
 
Got me to thinking it could be like the little 50 bed, one floor hospital in the next town.  Hubby and son have both been in there, the nurses were great (tho very short handed), food good, meds on time, etc. However, certain things could not be done there, certain illnesses not treated there.  Those cases have to go the one of the 5-6 floor zillion bed hospitals in Corpus that can afford all the special equipment, etc.  Sometimes being smaller does not make for better.(Except for the size of a town to live in--the smaller the better for me.)

would have better QC as they arent churning out thousands of tonns of food per day,and of a hundred different varieties.Wouldnt it be easier to oversee a small company than a huge conglomerate

 
Thousands of tons is big money. QC is tight because a foul-up on your part just cost the company $250k..
 
According to an expert in my industry in management, there is no technical difference between managing a large job or a small job. In either case, you are managing a process that is divided into parts. Manage each part, then manage the collection of parts. A big company got big because the managers or bosses effectively managed every process, including QC.

As I mentioned before, I don't believe QC has anything to do with size - it's motivation to do it right.  A screwup which results in a certain percentage hit on the bottom line, will impact the company similiarly whether the bottom line is great or small.

My late trainer was the QC director for a plastics plant in his town.  He was a man of great integrity and about the smartest guy I ever knew (though he calleed himself an "ignorant farmer" and couldn't even spell).  I would sure have trusted him to oversee my dog food manufacture whether he worked for a niche company like Blackwood Farms, a big dealer like Diamond or a megacorp like Nestle. 

But it's hard to talk directly to the QC people at those bigger places, while on the other hand Steve used to get on the horn and talk directly to the production managers whenever he switched dog food (which he purchased by the truckload) - plus he handled sponsorship for the big events and he never worked with anyone whose food he wouldn't feed himself.

QC to him meant different things as an expert in the field.  It meant the product contained what it said it contained, and they could demonstrate how mistakes were prevented as much as possible.  It meant all Federal regs and guidelines were met.  As someone suffering from cancer contracted from chemical exposure, he was also a stickler for correct managment of ingredients so they weren't exposed to chemicals.  I don't know what else he looked for, but I do know he didn't like Diamond.  He passed away last year so he never saw the Diamond brou-ha-ha but he wouldn't have been a bit surprised.

Hey, Susan!!!

How is that boy of yours holding up?

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As I mentioned before, I don't believe QC has anything to do with size - it's motivation to do it right.  A screwup which results in a certain percentage hit on the bottom line, will impact the company similiarly whether the bottom line is great or small.

 
I completely agree.  DH and I work for a relatively small company, that employs roughly 140 people.  They make emergency response equipment, therefore it is VERY important that it work, and work correctly the first time.  Many other companies in the industry have a 1 in 4 failure rate.  With us, on the other had, every piece is tested before it leaves the plant.
 
No, we are not a large company by any means, but it was decided long ago that QC was a top priority, and therefore the QC proceedures and department have been well developed.