What should be the punishment for people involved in dog fighting?

    • Gold Top Dog

    What should be the punishment for people involved in dog fighting?

    Dog fighting happpens a great deal where I live and when the jerks involved get caught, they get a slap on the hand!  Why?  What are the laws about this crime? What do you all think should happen to these bad guys?

    • Gold Top Dog

     Should we start with electric probes to delicate areas? You KNOW which areas I am talking about!

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    I always say an eye for an eye---give them the same treatment they inflicted on the dogs.

    • Gold Top Dog

    unfortunately in most states even the most horrific animal abuse is classified as only a misdemeaner and the punishment is a small fine, possibly a few months in jail. 

    • Gold Top Dog

    I am not sure where I think dog fighting fits in. It is a felony now in most states...and the three strike rule would perhaps apply...not sure how that works.

    I think the scale of punishments needs revisiting in general...as it's out of balance when Martha Stewart goes to JAIL for however long for hurting no one, and here in TX a man is walking around free, on 10 years probation for leaving a 2 y/o child in a hot van and killing them because "they forgot". Oh yes...and the mother's who've recently offed their kids are not doing hard time..either because they are 'insane'...one even got out not long ago, and is no longer in a psych facility at all!

     

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    That is my opinion as well!!  But I think we should (as I have said before) starve these jerks, keep them in very small cages and then make them fight eachother for their supper!!!! But then some activist would say that is cruel and unusual punishment Right? It's okay to treat a dog that way cause they don't have souls....Right you idiots!!!! Take a look in my dogs eyes and tell my they don't have souls!!!! Maybe we should take these guys, cover them in beef gravy and set the dogs loose on them....no that would be cruel to the dogs!!  Sorry if i sound a little crazy but this kind of thing makes me that way!!!! and i'm a red head. lol

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    20 years, but I also think that that individuals convicted of murder should get life, so I think I am the "hanging judge" end of the spectrum.

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    Pit_Pointer_Aussie

     

    20 years, but I also think that that individuals convicted of murder should get life, so I think I am the "hanging judge" end of the spectrum.

    Well I am not willing to foot THAT tax bill that's for sure, that's a LOTTA time for a LOTTA people. I'd rather educate the young so that it simply dies a natural death due to lack of interest and participation.

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    Yup, it would be costly, but I value human decency that much. If putting people away for that long is what it takes to get these sick folks off the streets, where they infect the minds of the young and malleable, then I’d be willing to pay for that.

    I also agree that the young need to be educated, but I do feel strongly that the people setting the example of this disgusting behavior need to be "culled" for lack of a better word.

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    Pit_Pointer_Aussie
    I also agree that the young need to be educated, but I do feel strongly that the people setting the example of this disgusting behavior need to be "culled" for lack of a better word.

    Well that's fine...but don't expect me to take money out of my kiddos college fund to pay for it Wink.

    That and the marked lack of effect jail time has on crime...makes me wonder if there isn't a better way.

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    rwbeagles
    Well that's fine...but don't expect me to take money out of my kiddos college fund to pay for it Wink.

     

     

     Def. not! Smile Also, a very good point on the lack of effect jail time has, goes to the whole does punishment work question.

    We just need these people out of mainstream society, so we can have an opportunity to educate kids before they are desensitized to it as children.

     It's too bad there isn't an empty continent where we could ship everyone. Maybe Antarctica...



     

    • Gold Top Dog

    This subject is really an important one. Seems like we hear so much about it, from so many walks of life.  Initially I was thinking they should get what they did to the animal(s).  And then be euthanized and cremated, flushed down the toilet!

    But in all seriousness, they should be regarded as dangerous people and have psychiatric observation.  Anyone capable of doing some of the horrendous things done to these poor creatures is imo, a real loser and certainly potentially dangerous to society and their own family.

    What makes an individual behave so?  Whatever it is it is no good.

     

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    rwbeagles

    Pit_Pointer_Aussie

     

    20 years, but I also think that that individuals convicted of murder should get life, so I think I am the "hanging judge" end of the spectrum.

    Well I am not willing to foot THAT tax bill that's for sure, that's a LOTTA time for a LOTTA people. I'd rather educate the young so that it simply dies a natural death due to lack of interest and participation.

    I know this is going to sound weird (and a little OT) but it actually costs states a lot more to execute someone than it does to just keep them locked up for life.  Here's why ... When someone is given the death penalty, they're not taken out behind the courthouse and shot.  They're put on death row - and then the attorneys get involved and the appeals start.  That's what takes the huge amounts of money.  CA has people who have been on death row for 20 years. Costs much less to just lock 'em up, throw away the key and give them three squares a day. Now if we could just get the drug addicts out of prison and into rehab and save the prisons for violent offenders, we'd be even more money ahead.  OK - rant over.  Jumping off soapbox now. Angry

    Joyce

    • Gold Top Dog

    Interesting!

    Sadly I'd bet there's a lot of crossover with the drug addicts and violent criminals tho...so who gets to go to rehab?

    BTW...I dont' think they do 20 year death row waits in Tx....now we're on hold tho, until they review the lethal injection thing.

    OT...sorry to the OP.

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    General note on our society. 

    You know when it comes to animals fighting, people are ready to string up the person by the privates but when it comes to people trying to kill our military, if a pair of panties is put on their head people cry about torture and inhumane treatment.  Interesting!!!!   I guess the dogs life is more important that our military people.