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Pit Bulls break in home

Posted : 8/22/2007 7:13:45 AM

GIG HARBOR, Wash. -- Two pit bulls that entered a Gig Harbor home through a pet door attacked and severely injured a woman while she slept, sheriff's deputies told KIRO 7 Eyewitness News.The dogs may have gone into the house to attack another dog, according to animal control officers. They attacked the woman in her bed as she tried to fight off the dogs.[linkhttp://forums.ibsys.com/viewmessages.cfm?sitekey=sea&Forum=669&Topic=14551]

DISCUSS: Pit Bulls[/link]Deputies said the woman got a gun and fired at the dogs, but the attack continued. She was eventually able to escape the house, get into her car and call 911.According to deputies, after the pit bulls attacked the woman they went after a neighbor#%92s Jack Russell terrier, killing it.“They#%92ve had problems over there before a couple of houses down with the dogs. It#%92s one of those things. We just hope Sue is OK,” neighbor Ricky Russell said.Pierce County animal control officers were able to capture the pit bulls.“Highly aggressive, people aggressive, animal aggressive. They attacked a Jack Russell terrier out there and they attacked the lady pretty severely,” Brian Boman, with animal control, said.According to investigators, the dogs were determined and difficult to stop.“We ended up having to pepper spray them an our deputies thought they might have to terminate the dogs out there, that#%92s how vicious they were,” Detective Ed Troyer said.The woman is at St. Joseph's hospital and is listed in satisfactory condition, according to a hospital spokesman.The victim is disabled. Her dog is a caretaker dog, according to a neighbor.

chewbecca

Posted : 8/22/2007 7:17:53 AM

Just keep spreading "the word" Bob.
I cannot help but to think that you have some sort of issue or point to prove about pit bulls.

forpaws

Posted : 8/22/2007 7:39:40 AM

It is unfortunate these dogs were mistreated and were human aggressive. Just plain irresponsibleness of the owners, period.
Reading some of the responses about "All Pit Bull's" being dangerous and should be destroyed sicken's me. Ignorant people breed and we don't destroy them! People are scared of what they don't know, and are stupid not to do research to be informed, knowledgible about what ever fear they have.
I have come across some Pit bull's that have serious issues, and yes, they need to be humanely euthanized because they were beyond rehabilitation. I have met some Pit's that were exceptionally well raised, socialized and trained, they are the ambassador to the breed. I have a pit bull, who is a pussy cat, well behaved, trained and just a loving dog all the way around. My point being simple, ignorance breeds bliss then why are so many people so unhappy? To unfairly target this breed is wrong, unfair and ignorant. Yes, they can do more damage than the average dog, that is the nature of the beast, but a well socialized, trained dog is a good dog. Period!

Bobsk8

Posted : 8/22/2007 7:45:13 AM

ORIGINAL: chewbecca

Just keep spreading "the word" Bob.
I cannot help but to think that you have some sort of issue or point to prove about pit bulls.

On another thread yesterday, I was critized and told that I didn't know what I was talking about for stating that Pit Bulls can be "people aggressive" when they are attacking someone's pet, and the person tries to get in the way to protect their pet. This is a perfect example of what I was talking about, and it happened yesterday. That is my point.... The women couldn't even stop the attack with a firearm....

Xerxes

Posted : 8/22/2007 8:23:20 AM

Bob, since you obviously like the sensationalism and controversy...why weren't the owners mentioned at all? It's the owners that let the dogs run loose, or are you blaming the dogs for that as well?

Sorry. What happened is the fault of irresponsible handling. It's unfortunate and quite sad, but the blame clearly lays upon the owners of the two dogs that were allowed to run unfettered through the streets.

It's easy to place the blame on the dogs though-and it's easy to fall prey to the media storm. It's much harder to actually think.

sillysally

Posted : 8/22/2007 8:34:06 AM

A big thanks to Bob for so perfectly illustrating the point from my post about who should not own a pit bull: "Oh yeah, and as an added bonus be prepared to have all the other sins of pretty much every irresponsible pit bull owner cast upon you as if it is somehow your fault that some yahoo in a town 600 miles away let his pit bull run loose and attack someone's dog. This is frequently done, even among other dog lovers."

I agree with Xerxes here. These dogs need to be euth and these owners need to have the book thrown at them BIG TIME. I'm not talking fines, I am talking JAIL TIME. Anything less is a miscarriage of justice. People who cannot control their dogs need to not only have them removed from the home, but need to be punished as well.

Just a word about a fire arm not stopping the attack: shooting at something and actually hitting it are two different things. Pit bulls have vital organs just like other dogs. I have actually seen them in Sally's x-rays and heard her heart beating (yes Bob, they do have hearts). This means that bullets can kill them just as they could kill you or I.

miranadobe

Posted : 8/22/2007 8:40:44 AM

On another thread yesterday,

Then why didn't you post this article with that explanation in the other thread? Why start a whole other thread?

and sillysally - I had the same thought:

Just a word about a fire arm not stopping the attack: shooting at something and actually hitting it are two different things.

DPU

Posted : 8/22/2007 8:48:12 AM

ORIGINAL: chewbecca

Just keep spreading "the word" Bob.
I cannot help but to think that you have some sort of issue or point to prove about pit bulls.

Yeah Chewbecca but before I came to this forum, I had no awareness of Pitbulls. And I can safely say it was all promotions against the media. It wasn't until a Pitty mix was left in my backyard and I was face to face with one, that I realized I was afraid of the dog and I attribute that fear to the forum's stories. It only took a few hours to get over but none the less, I was afraid. So it is not the contents of media stories or posting that educate people on PB's behavior. It is the talk and if the talk goes away, so does the fear.

dgriego

Posted : 8/22/2007 9:01:55 AM

There are a lot of things wrong with this story. The lady had small dogs and a dog door. Did she not have a fence? it seems that perhaps wherever she is that the dogs were able to go outside into the "world" via the dog door? Were the "pit bulls" also "running free"? I guess it is "possible" to have these dogs leap a fence and come into a dog door but it seems unlikely. How big was this dog door? Most people with small dogs have a small dog door. True PitBulls are fairly wide in the chest and I cannot see them easily getting through a small or medium size dog door.

Sounds to me like both "owners" were negligent. Sounds to me like the media once again jumped on this story without getting all of the facts and as usual they will most likely find out lots of interesting information that they will not bother to release in the same fashion.

Also please remember that the original release of the actors dogs that "savagely attacked and killed a man in the backyard, sherrifs saying the attack was viscous and brutal, turned out to be minor scratches and bites on the "victims " legs and arms, placed there by the dogs AFTER the man had died.

So just because the MEDIA says the attack was brutal does not mean sh## in MHO.

And for the record I am not a Pit Bull owner

Liesje

Posted : 8/22/2007 9:06:04 AM

Yeah Chewbecca but before I came to this forum, I had no awareness of Pitbulls. And I can safely say it was all promotions against the media. It wasn't until a Pitty mix was left in my backyard and I was face to face with one, that I realized I was afraid of the dog and I attribute that fear to the forum's stories. It only took a few hours to get over but none the less, I was afraid. So it is not the contents of media stories or posting that educate people on PB's behavior. It is the talk and if the talk goes away, so does the fear.

Talk....and like you said, actually working with a pit helps wonders! [

] I was always afraid of pits b/c I grew up in the "ghetto" where they were chained in people's yards and encouraged to fight each other. Working with a young pittie named Asia at the shelter changed all that.

Bobsk8

Posted : 8/22/2007 9:06:13 AM

ORIGINAL: Xerxes

Bob, since you obviously like the sensationalism and controversy...why weren't the owners mentioned at all? It's the owners that let the dogs run loose, or are you blaming the dogs for that as well?

Sorry. What happened is the fault of irresponsible handling. It's unfortunate and quite sad, but the blame clearly lays upon the owners of the two dogs that were allowed to run unfettered through the streets.

It's easy to place the blame on the dogs though-and it's easy to fall prey to the media storm. It's much harder to actually think.

The owners weren't the ones that broke into the house an attacked the lady. Always the same old Mantra after one of the attacks , it's the owners fault ,, it's the victims fault, it's the media, the story sounds fishy, it's unfortunate, it's sad , yada, yada, yada..... same old, same old..... Anything to deflect the blame of the attack away from the dogs......

meilani

Posted : 8/22/2007 9:10:02 AM

ORIGINAL: Bobsk8

ORIGINAL: Xerxes

Bob, since you obviously like the sensationalism and controversy...why weren't the owners mentioned at all? It's the owners that let the dogs run loose, or are you blaming the dogs for that as well?

Sorry. What happened is the fault of irresponsible handling. It's unfortunate and quite sad, but the blame clearly lays upon the owners of the two dogs that were allowed to run unfettered through the streets.

It's easy to place the blame on the dogs though-and it's easy to fall prey to the media storm. It's much harder to actually think.

The owners weren't the ones that broke into the house an attacked the lady. Always the same old Mantra after one of the attacks , it's the owners, it's unfortunate, it's sad . I am surprised that the victim hasn't been blamed yet, since she had a dog door in her house.......

Uh Bob, are you saying that if these dogs were properly contained that they somehow would've found a way to get loose so they could go into this womans house to attack her?

Bobsk8

Posted : 8/22/2007 9:13:38 AM

ORIGINAL: sillysally

A big thanks to Bob for so perfectly illustrating the point from my post about who should not own a pit bull: "Oh yeah, and as an added bonus be prepared to have all the other sins of pretty much every irresponsible pit bull owner cast upon you as if it is somehow your fault that some yahoo in a town 600 miles away let his pit bull run loose and attack someone's dog. This is frequently done, even among other dog lovers."

I agree with Xerxes here. These dogs need to be euth and these owners need to have the book thrown at them BIG TIME. I'm not talking fines, I am talking JAIL TIME. Anything less is a miscarriage of justice. People who cannot control their dogs need to not only have them removed from the home, but need to be punished as well.

Just a word about a fire arm not stopping the attack: shooting at something and actually hitting it are two different things. Pit bulls have vital organs just like other dogs. I have actually seen them in Sally's x-rays and heard her heart beating (yes Bob, they do have hearts). This means that bullets can kill them just as they could kill you or I.

One of my neighbors is a retired cop. He says the best thing to stop a dog attack, is a 12 gauge shotgun, and he says he wouldn't hesitate a second to use it on any dog that attacks someone when he is around.

Bobsk8

Posted : 8/22/2007 9:15:38 AM

ORIGINAL: meilani

ORIGINAL: Bobsk8

ORIGINAL: Xerxes

Bob, since you obviously like the sensationalism and controversy...why weren't the owners mentioned at all? It's the owners that let the dogs run loose, or are you blaming the dogs for that as well?

Sorry. What happened is the fault of irresponsible handling. It's unfortunate and quite sad, but the blame clearly lays upon the owners of the two dogs that were allowed to run unfettered through the streets.

It's easy to place the blame on the dogs though-and it's easy to fall prey to the media storm. It's much harder to actually think.

The owners weren't the ones that broke into the house an attacked the lady. Always the same old Mantra after one of the attacks , it's the owners, it's unfortunate, it's sad . I am surprised that the victim hasn't been blamed yet, since she had a dog door in her house.......

Uh Bob, are you saying that if these dogs were properly contained that they somehow would've found a way to get loose so they could go into this womans house to attack her?

If you can't 100% guarantee that a dog will never get out of your control, and it is a potentially lethal dog, you shouldn't be permitted to bring it into a community.........

meilani

Posted : 8/22/2007 9:21:52 AM

ORIGINAL: Bobsk8

ORIGINAL: meilani

ORIGINAL: Bobsk8

ORIGINAL: Xerxes

Bob, since you obviously like the sensationalism and controversy...why weren't the owners mentioned at all? It's the owners that let the dogs run loose, or are you blaming the dogs for that as well?

Sorry. What happened is the fault of irresponsible handling. It's unfortunate and quite sad, but the blame clearly lays upon the owners of the two dogs that were allowed to run unfettered through the streets.

It's easy to place the blame on the dogs though-and it's easy to fall prey to the media storm. It's much harder to actually think.

The owners weren't the ones that broke into the house an attacked the lady. Always the same old Mantra after one of the attacks , it's the owners, it's unfortunate, it's sad . I am surprised that the victim hasn't been blamed yet, since she had a dog door in her house.......

Uh Bob, are you saying that if these dogs were properly contained that they somehow would've found a way to get loose so they could go into this womans house to attack her?

If you can't 100% guarantee that a dog will never get out of your control, and it is a potentially lethal dog, you shouldn't be permitted to bring it into a community.........

I can dig what you're saying but can anyone 100% guarantee that their dog will never get loose? I consider myself to be a responsible owner but there was that time when the wind pushed open my gate and the dogs got loose. Thankfully they just went to the front to "water" the tree and stood in front of the front door waiting to be let in.

otentially lethal dog? Again, considering they have teeth, I would say there's always the potential to be lethal.