What happens when you take your dog to the pound

ORIGINAL: cyclefiend2000

i think the people who are in favor of this law or similar ones, should ask themselves what are the current laws in regard to dog ownership in my area? are these laws being enforced? my guess is no. so why would any further laws be enforced? or can they be enforced? in my state there are strict littering laws (as i am sure there are in most states). so why is there still trash on the side of the road? my opinion is it is either lack of enforcement or ability to enforce.

badrap... i get what you are saying too. when we adopted amelia, i didnt know what the laws were in regards to registering a dog. actually, it took a good bit of research on my part to find out. luckily all that is required here is to stay current with your yearly shots. however, i recently found out that the neighboring town (less than 1 mile from our house) has additional fees you have to pay if you live inside the city limits. this isnt prominently published anywhere. i stumbled on it via a google search for something unrelated. for any law to be effective there at the very least has to be public awareness.

 
The difference with this law is those that are supporting it.  There are close to 400 groups, mostly local rescue groups, that support it, and I have no doubt that when it's passed, those groups will see it as a tool they can use to make changes for the animals.  There are other laws that effect animals that don't drum up the support that this one will.  I personally could care less if my neighbor licenses his dog.  Yes, he should, because that money helps support the shelter, but it's just not high on my priority list.  But the neighbor who keeps producing litter after litter of kittens IS high on my priority list, and there's not a thing I can do about it currently.  That needs to change.  We need that tool.

so the law will be able to be enforced by citizens?

dont get me wrong, i am opposed to irresponsible breeding practices. but it seems that a law against it is not necessarily the best method for stopping it. why should an overworked, underpaid police officer care about a BYB when there are offenders of violent crimes roaming the streets? i would think the BYB would be a lot lower on the list of priorities than say a rapist or a murderer.

ORIGINAL: mrv



As to commercial breeders, they will just add any cost to price of the puppy and continue on their merry money making way producing crap dogs that break peoples hearts and pocket books, without offering life long support and first right of refusal returns as found in responsible breeder contracts.

And the high end breeders would do what differently with the added cost, which by the way probably amounts to a few Starbucks per dog, than the commercial breeders? 

And the high end breeders would do what differently with the added cost, which by the way probably amounts to a few Starbucks per dog, than the commercial breeders?

High-end breeders already use s/n contracts for companion bred animals.  Animals left intact typical come with other agreements as far as breeding contracts and such. 

As this post has developed into a discussion on a pending Bill...it has been moved to Advocacy.

ORIGINAL: cyclefiend2000

so the law will be able to be enforced by citizens?

dont get me wrong, i am opposed to irresponsible breeding practices. but it seems that a law against it is not necessarily the best method for stopping it. why should an overworked, underpaid police officer care about a BYB when there are offenders of violent crimes roaming the streets? i would think the BYB would be a lot lower on the list of priorities than say a rapist or a murderer.

 
No, the law won't be enforced by citizens, but citizens can certainly report law breakers to animal control who can enforce the law.  Animal control officers can't do anything to stop irresponsible breeding practices right now, all they can do is house and kill the results of it.  And animal control officers aren't busy with rapists and murderers, so their priorities will be to stop the prolifieration of unwanted pets.

 

And animal control officers aren't busy with rapists and murderers,

 
Then why does it take them so long to respond when someone calls about a loose dog I wonder? How strange. Seems the one commonality of AC's around the Nation...going by this forum of people all over the place...AC takes forever or is plain uninterested in helping dogs that are left out, in bad weather, barking constantly, loose dogs, etc.

Animal control officers can't do anything to stop irresponsible breeding practices right now, all they can do is house and kill the results of it.

Um, the bill isn't going to stop anyone from breeding responsibility.

Many people here have advocated in favor of bills that would restrict breeding and require licenses, inspections, etc for breeding.  THAT gets at the root cause of the problem you've pointed out here, not spaying/neutering after the fact.

I will probably get flamed for my comments but here goes: I think it is to easy for people to give up their pets and that this is part of the general problem. It should be much more difficult, persons unable to keep their pets should have to particiapte in the euthanization process. You should not be able to just drop your dog off at a shelter and then walk away.
 
 Taking your animal to the pound is said to be the "responsible" owners course of action in the event they cannot keep their dog. I disagree and believe that as a owner if I should be unable to care for my boys, it should be my eyes they look into as they go to sleep, it should be my hand that holds them and I should feel the weight of that responsibility.
 
 

ORIGINAL: dgriego

I will probably get flamed for my comments but here goes: I think it is to easy for people to give up their pets and that this is part of the general problem. It should be much more difficult, persons unable to keep their pets should have to particiapte in the euthanization process. You should not be able to just drop your dog off at a shelter and then walk away.

Taking your animal to the pound is said to be the "responsible" owners course of action in the event they cannot keep their dog. I disagree and believe that as a owner if I should be unable to care for my boys, it should be my eyes they look into as they go to sleep, it should be my hand that holds them and I should feel the weight of that responsibility.

That is a good point, but I think that faced with the option of having to witness the "execution" ( I think that word fits what we are doing to these animals, since it is more realistic) , they would just dump the dog off somewhere and not even bring it to a shelter. In several  cities that I have lived in, this happens on a regular and very frequent basis.  My present  dog was set loose on an Interstate Highway, where someone picked her up and brought her to a No Kill Shelter where she lived for 10 months. She is the most well behaved dog I have ever had, and is about ready to take her Therapy Dog test. Now why on earth would someone do this to such a great dog?   

 I live next to a park, and in just a few months since the park has been opened, about 6 dogs have been abandoned at the park.  There is a vet office about 2 miles from my home, and almost every weekend there is a animal or two  chained to the front steps, when they show up on Monday morning. This goes on , day in an day out.....I live in a Condo complex and I can think of at least 5 puppies that were living with people for a few months and all of a sudden disappeared.  When asking the kids, what happened to your dog?, they usually say something like... " We had to get rid of it because...... (fill in the lame excuse). Because of the pet overpopulation, many of these dogs were just given away at a mall parking lot, and the owners took them on a whim because they were cute.  This is the kind of thing that a mandatory S/N law would help to reduce in frequency.  Something has to change, because what we are doing now is not working. 

I notice how quickly the focus switches from the plight of the dogs in shelters , which is what my post was about, to defeating a mandatory S/N law that will inconvience some breeders, by costing them some money.

It's sad isn't it?

Animal control officers can't do anything to stop irresponsible breeding practices right now

but doesnt this law in essence attempt to curtail ALL breeding practices (responsible or otherwise)?

that is the issue i think many people have with this particular law. not to mention the news story i saw a while back about dogs being bred in mexico and smuggled into the US (southern CA in particular) and being sold. would this law do anything to stop that from happening? or are there already laws in place that are not able to be enforced?
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/01/0130_060130_puppies.html

ORIGINAL: Raven778944

I notice how quickly the focus switches from the plight of the dogs in shelters , which is what my post was about, to defeating a mandatory S/N law that will inconvience some breeders, by costing them some money.

It's sad isn't it?

It really is......

ORIGINAL: cyclefiend2000

Animal control officers can't do anything to stop irresponsible breeding practices right now

but doesnt this law in essence attempt to curtail ALL breeding practices (responsible or otherwise)?

that is the issue i think many people have with this particular law. not to mention the news story i saw a while back about dogs being bred in mexico and smuggled into the US (southern CA in particular) and being sold. would this law do anything to stop that from happening? or are there already laws in place that are not able to be enforced?
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If we can't stop criminals, drug dealers, possible terrorists, from entering the US from Mexico, because our Federal governments refuses to do anything about the problem, I doubt if they are going to do anything about the dogs that are being taken across the border.  

If we can't stop criminals, drug dealers, possible terrorists, from entering the US from Mexico, because our Federal governments refuses to do anything about the problem, I doubt if they are going to do anything about the dogs that are being taken across the border.

that was kind of my point. there are all kinds of laws on the books or being proposed, but that doesnt make them enforceable.

whether you are irresponsibly breeding or smuggling puppies across the border, you are contributing to pet overpopulation in the US. one more law isnt going to stop the problem. it will only make a small percentage of the population feel good about themselves. [sm=2cents.gif]