Evil PETA witch on Fox News this AM

ORIGINAL: swamper

Well what do you expect when you put on FOX news? [:'(]

 
First - I'm not going there.  I won't turn this into a political statement. 
 
Second - regardless of the channel I was watching, this isn't supposed to be a political thread.  The topic was a PETA rep stating all pits should be PTS and the breed should be annihilated.  The important part to me was the breed and the PETA reps statement about it.

ORIGINAL: mrs1885

ORIGINAL: swamper

Well what do you expect when you put on FOX news? [:'(]

First - I'm not going there.  I won't turn this into a political statement. 

Second - regardless of the channel I was watching, this isn't supposed to be a political thread.  The topic was a PETA rep stating all pits should be PTS and the breed should be annihilated.  The important part to me was the breed and the PETA reps statement about it.

I have watched some Fox newscasts, and I agree, I wouldn't believe much of what they said was true....

ORIGINAL: Bobsk8

ORIGINAL: mrs1885

ORIGINAL: swamper

Well what do you expect when you put on FOX news? [:'(]

First - I'm not going there.  I won't turn this into a political statement. 

Second - regardless of the channel I was watching, this isn't supposed to be a political thread.  The topic was a PETA rep stating all pits should be PTS and the breed should be annihilated.  The important part to me was the breed and the PETA reps statement about it.

I have watched some Fox newscasts, and I agree, I wouldn't believe much of what they said was true....

 
[8|]  Can we stick to topic?  This has nothing to do with politics.  The woman from PETA was on the show and she said herself pits should be killed - all of them - that the breed should be destroyed as a whole. 
 
If you don't like Fox news don't watch it.  I personally don't like any of the other media outlets so I don't watch them.  That's politics.  This thread has nothing to do with politics.

ORIGINAL: timsdat

Would you state that the breeders of the approximately 600,000+ Pit Bulls that get euthanized in shelters every year, are "responsible breeders", or would you say that they are mostly "irresponsible"? I vote for the latter.....

Actually I would call that the result of irresponsible ownership.

So then I would suppose that you would have to agree that the number of irresponsible Pit Bull owners is Huge....  That would seem to indicate that breeders  are breeding these dogs and  selling them to   owners that are totally incapable of raising these dogs properly.  That tells, me that the PB breeders are very irresponsible.  I don't see how you can logically disagree with that.... We are not talking about a small percentage or number of animals here, we are talking about a  gigantic problem of dogs being dumped on society because they didn't work out. 

ORIGINAL: mrs1885

ORIGINAL: Bobsk8

ORIGINAL: mrs1885

ORIGINAL: swamper

Well what do you expect when you put on FOX news? [:'(]

First - I'm not going there.  I won't turn this into a political statement. 

Second - regardless of the channel I was watching, this isn't supposed to be a political thread.  The topic was a PETA rep stating all pits should be PTS and the breed should be annihilated.  The important part to me was the breed and the PETA reps statement about it.

I have watched some Fox newscasts, and I agree, I wouldn't believe much of what they said was true....

[8|]  Can we stick to topic?  This has nothing to do with politics.  The woman from PETA was on the show and she said herself pits should be killed - all of them - that the breed should be destroyed as a whole. 

If you don't like Fox news don't watch it.  I personally don't like any of the other media outlets so I don't watch them.  That's politics.  This thread has nothing to do with politics.

Who is talking about "politics".  I am talking about a news outlet  whose programming  is filled with inaccuracies and misinformation.  You are the one bringing politics into the discussion.. Why do you inject poltics into this and then accuse other people of doing that?

ORIGINAL: swamper
Well what do you expect when you put on FOX news? [:'(]

Agreed!

And also,

ORIGINAL: mrs1885
Since most terrorists happen to be Muslim,

is terribly inaccurate. To name but a few: IRA, Aum Shinrikyo, Colombian paramilitaries, Russian Separatists, citizen terrorists McVeigh and Kaczynski, Boston Tea party ... !

So then I would suppose that you would have to agree that the number of irresponsible Pit Bull owners is Huge.... That would seem to indicate that breeders are breeding these dogs and selling them to owners that are totally incapable of raising these dogs properly. That tells, me that the PB breeders are very irresponsible. I don't see how you can logically disagree with that.... We are not talking about a small percentage or number of animals here, we are talking about a gigantic problem of dogs being dumped on society because they didn't work out.

 
You seem to think that anyone that doesn't spay their female dog and allows it to become pregnant thru neglect of the situation is a breeder.  Well that is so wrong and very insulting to the very many breeders of dogs that do the right things to give people that are irresponsible the same label. 
 
And yes we are talking about a very small percentage of the total dogs.  Less than 1%.
 

I really strongly dislike PETA. I think that a lot of what they're aiming for and what they do is evil. PETA is often at the hight of hypocrisy. ([linkhttp://www.petakillsanimals.com/]http://www.petakillsanimals.com/[/link]) Their second in command takes insulin. Apparently it's alright for her, but not everyone else. I also really just disagree with their stance on animals, and I think that their goal of total animal liberation is just... I really don't like it. I love having my pets be a part of my life, and I think that their view on the matter is wrong. Penn and Teller did an episode of Bullsh*t on PETA that's pretty good, and you can probably watch it on google video.
 
So, I'm not really surprised that they have that stance; they want all dogs to be gone, so of course they'd take an anti-breed stance against any breed. They want them all to be extinct.

Okay, I  admit it, I use to think PETA was a a good thing and I donated regularly.  THEN I FOUND OUT WHAT THEY WRE REALLY ALL ABOUT and all mail I get from them goes into trash without even being opened.  I also use to think HSUS was part THR Humaine Society and money was sent to all the city humane societys.. I dontaed regularly.   THEN I FOUND OUT THEY WERE IN NO WAY CONNECTED WITH THE HUMANE SOCIETY IN THE CITIES, BUT A GROUP OF THEIR OWN WITH NO SHELTERS, NOTHING BUT THE MONEY THEY TOOK IN FROM US  ALSO MANY PEOPLE WERE FOOLD BECAUSE THEY PUT HUMANE SOCEITY IN THEIR TITLE--AND I, ALONG WITH MANY, THAT IT WAS A RUSE TO FOOL PEOPLE INTO BELIEVE THAT.
 
Now I donate directly to 3 golden retriever resuces, Northshore Animal league, ASPCA, etc.  No more money to PETA or HSUS.  I also donate to a couple of wild life funds that I checked out, and also to Morris Animal Foundation who does a tremendous job of research on animal diseases.  There is one they have oing to try to find a vaccine against canine cancer, and also one for cure, prevention of AIHA.    And I do donate to human causes as well.....no wonder i stay broke.  But the point is, there are plenty of causes, groups, etc that do put the money where it is suppose to go and are not trying to fool people with their title.  Don't let those "fake ones' cause you to stop giving to true ones.
 
 

ORIGINAL: timsdat

So then I would suppose that you would have to agree that the number of irresponsible Pit Bull owners is Huge.... That would seem to indicate that breeders are breeding these dogs and selling them to owners that are totally incapable of raising these dogs properly. That tells, me that the PB breeders are very irresponsible. I don't see how you can logically disagree with that.... We are not talking about a small percentage or number of animals here, we are talking about a gigantic problem of dogs being dumped on society because they didn't work out.

You seem to think that anyone that doesn't spay their female dog and allows it to become pregnant thru neglect of the situation is a breeder.  Well that is so wrong and very insulting to the very many breeders of dogs that do the right things to give people that are irresponsible the same label. 

And yes we are talking about a very small percentage of the total dogs.  Less than 1%.

600,000 plus Pit Bulls being put down in shelters each year is a "very small percentage"....  Huh?????  By the way, weren't you one of the people that were fighting tooth  and nail on this web site to keep S/N laws from being enacted in California? 

I am talking about a news outlet whose programming is filled with inaccuracies and misinformation.

 
These word were directly out of the Peta's spokespersons mouth.  I saw the same interview.  In fact it also ran yesterday. 
 
 

ORIGINAL: timsdat

I am talking about a news outlet whose programming is filled with inaccuracies and misinformation.

These word were directly out of the Peta's spokespersons mouth.  I saw the same interview.  In fact it also ran yesterday. 

PETA  is knocking Fox News??????  

By the way, weren't you one of the people that were fighting tooth and nail on this web site to keep S/N laws from being enacted in California?

 
You know of course I will fight manditory S/N laws.  Once the government gets into the business of who should and shouldn't breed it will completely destroy breeding.
 
 

Bob, the Peta spokesperson didn't say that there were no such thing as responsible "pitbull" breeders, so the point you are arguing is invalid. What she said, was that there was no such thing as a responsible breeder. That is every person that breeds anything. You can't honestly believe that statement.

I personally, have never supported PETA. My stepmother was getting mail from them at one point and thought she would be doing the animal population a favor by donating until I told her all she would be paying for is a needle for some poor animals euth. PETA does not try to hide in anyway that their goal is to exterminate pets as a population. I don't understand how people can blindly support a group they haven't researched at all. You only have to look as far as a few paragraphs into their website to see that their up to no good.

ORIGINAL: timsdat

By the way, weren't you one of the people that were fighting tooth and nail on this web site to keep S/N laws from being enacted in California?

You know of course I will fight manditory S/N laws.  Once the government gets into the business of who should and shouldn't breed it will completely destroy breeding.

 
Big Brother. There may be times where a judge may deem it necessary to order an animal removed or neutered but government has no business issuing a blanket law like that.