Evil PETA witch on Fox News this AM

I wished more inhumane, sickening things on that woman in the 15 seconds before hubby could get the channel changed than most people can come up with in months.  How in the world can you be such a hypocrite??  People For The Ethical Treatment Of Animals thinks we should annihilate an entire breed of dog??  How freaking ironic and sick is this?

 
PETA is openly for the eradication of ALL pets and domestic animals. They see domestication as slavery and cruelty and think that all dogs, cats, and other domesticated animals would be better off dead than living with humans. I don't think it's that PETA *honestly* sees pit bulls as vicious- it's that they try to play it up and convince the public that they are- and once the public is convinced that these dogs are monsters, hopefully (according to PETA) they will erradicate the breed out of fear. One breed down, a zillion more to go. It isn't because they honestly think pit bulls are a problem- it's because eliminating pit bulls serves THEIR ultimate goal: the eradication of all pets and domesticated animals.
 
I wish all of the "animal lovers" that support PETA would realize that their favorite organization's ultimate goal is to take their beloved pets away and kill them. [:@]

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I wished more inhumane, sickening things on that woman in the 15 seconds before hubby could get the channel changed than most people can come up with in months.  How in the world can you be such a hypocrite??  People For The Ethical Treatment Of Animals thinks we should annihilate an entire breed of dog??  How freaking ironic and sick is this?

PETA is openly for the eradication of ALL pets and domestic animals. They see domestication as slavery and cruelty and think that all dogs, cats, and other domesticated animals would be better off dead than living with humans. I don't think it's that PETA *honestly* sees pit bulls as vicious- it's that they try to play it up and convince the public that they are- and once the public is convinced that these dogs are monsters, hopefully (according to PETA) they will erradicate the breed out of fear. One breed down, a zillion more to go. It isn't because they honestly think pit bulls are a problem- it's because eliminating pit bulls serves THEIR ultimate goal: the eradication of all pets and domesticated animals.

I wish all of the "animal lovers" that support PETA would realize that their favorite organization's ultimate goal is to take their beloved pets away and kill them. [:@]

 
OMG.  I had no idea.  Wow. 
 
You know, I knew they were a group of nutso's but I thought that under the whackyness they are that they were at least wanting to protect animals so I gave them a pass.  Unreal.  Wow.  How sad.  [&o]

I'm no huge fan of PETA by any means, but, in the interest of fairness; from their website:
 
Contrary to myth, PETA does not want to confiscate animals who are well cared for and "set them free." What we want is for the population of dogs and cats to be reduced through spaying and neutering and for people to adopt animals (preferably two so that they can keep each other company when their human companions aren't home) from pounds or shelters—never from pet shops or breeders—thereby reducing suffering in the world.
 
[linkhttp://www.peta.org/campaigns/ar-petaonpets.asp]http://www.peta.org/campaigns/ar-petaonpets.asp[/link]

Ingrid Newkirk has always been a flake (IMO) and has always believed, for a very long time, that all fighting dog breeds should be eliminated. And BTW a couple of years ago they got busted in Virginia 'adopting' dogs, cats, puppies and kittens out of Virginia shelters and killing them in the van to spare them the agony of being in a shelter.

PETA ain't worth spit. JMO
Paula

About 600,000 Pit Bulls are executed in Shelters each year in the United States alone. I think what PETA is doing is trying to stop people that have no idea what raising a PB is like, from buying them and then dropping them off at shelters.  
[linkhttp://www.cnn.com/2007/US/08/23/dog.fighting/index.html]http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/08/23/dog.fighting/index.html[/link]

In addition, the only organized group that demonstrated against Michael Vick playing for the team this season ,at the Falcons first practice was PETA. No other group  bothered to show up.  

By the way, Glen Beck , conservative talk show host on CNN had a lengthy discussion last night on Pit Bulls after discussing the disabled women that was attacked in her own home.   He  questioned why   people today   would go out and purchase a dog that was known to be  "bred for fighting" , for their family, " a dog that might go off at any moment". He went on to say that if any neighbor of his got one, he would be very unhappy unless that neighbor put up a 6 foot high chainlink fence all the way around their house.

the population of dogs and cats to be reduced through spaying and neutering and for people to adopt animals (preferably two so that they can keep each other company when their human companions aren't home) from pounds or shelters—never from pet shops or breeders—thereby reducing suffering in the world.

 
This I totally agree with.  And part of me thinks we should implement a license system that people have to apply for and pass testing to own one of the larger, more powerful breeds that have been bred for hunting / fighting and have high prey drives.  But then I think - my cocker could seriously injure or kill a tiny baby.  Who's to say a cocker in the wrong setting won't do the damage to a baby that a rottie or pit in the wrong setting can do to an adult?  So what would the point be to license just those breeds?  So do we license all breeds? 
 
I don't know.  I just wish there were a simple fix to all this.  Apparently a mailman was attacked by a pit yesterday.  Another irresponsible owner and the breed suffers needlessly.  It's just so not fair.  And all the dogs and cats being PTS daily in shelters due to overpopulation.  And the ones raised improperly that are forced to become aggressive.  I just don't know.   I really think the only solution is to start massive legislation against owners, enforce mandatory spay / neuter of pets with the exception of those that are show / working dogs that will be bred under very strict guidelines.  Not forever, just until this overpopulation is under control.  I don't know.  Then where do you draw the line, ya know?  My neighbor has hunting dogs.  They win titles.  But they have never had any health testing.  And yet he'll breed the ones that do well at hunting.  Should he be allowed to do that?  What if one that proves itself in hunting winds up to have a terrible genetic problem that's passed to the offspring?  And what about their housing?  He keeps them locked in pens all day except when he takes them hunting for a few hours.  How much of a life is that?
 
I just dont' know.  It's all very very sad.  [&o]

I went to a Pet Expo in Minnesota once. I couldn't believe it they allowed PETA to bring in a booth. They had this graphic violent video playing the entire time. People were walking around with their dogs, and here they are. They didn't harass the attendees that I saw but I was appalled. We bought something from the vendor who was the lucky one to be stuck next to them. He was not happy. It disgusted him to have to watch and listen.

I know the less extremist PETA people can do some good, but the extremists are the ones we all seem to have to listen to. UHG!

wow my respect for glen beck just dropped a few points. what an ignorant dumb@$$!!
i would have a problem if my neighbour's CHAINED or KENNELED a pit bull 24/7 AND didnt have a fence.
i have met more nice bullies than vicious.
and his stupid statement about them going off any second was a complete "tell all" about his knowledge on the subject.
no animal just gets a wire crossed and goes from zero to psycho killer in 5.2 seconds. There is a reason, there are warning signs,  and there are methods of prevention. to not point those factors out is not helping our cause.

nope. not a glen beck fan anymore.
and you can bet i'm gonna hear this dribble from my FIL next time i see him. if Glen stinkin Beck says it then its almost as good as reading it from the Holy Bible! [8|]
i swear people are losing their ability to think for themselves more each day.
and as for petas official website statement... its crap. CRAP i say! actions speak louder than words. they have proven that by killing those pound puppies and kitties that they adamantly want US to rescue.
they are two faced, lying, psychopathic, misanthropic, antisocial, back stabbing tofu munching creeps.

they are two faced, lying, psychopathic, misanthropic, antisocial, back stabbing tofu munching creeps.

 
Excellent line!!!  []  Very well said.  *standing ovation*

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wow my respect for glen beck just dropped a few points.


as for petas official website statement... its crap. CRAP i say! actions speak louder than words. they have proven that by killing those pound puppies and kitties that they adamantly want US to rescue.
they are two faced, lying, psychopathic, misanthropic, antisocial, back stabbing tofu munching creeps.

 
First of all, you actually had respect for glen beck before!?!  Kidding.
 
Second, I think I know what you're referring to, and again I'm not a peta member or supporter really, but I would be careful about attributing the actions of a couple of rogue nut jobs to an entire organization or group of people.  Maybe there's something I don't know about the institutional nature of this animal killing business, but generalizations on the whole are dangerous (whether about breeds, or groups of people.)

Well what do you expect when you put on FOX news? [:'(]

I'm no huge fan of PETA by any means, but, in the interest of fairness; from their website:

 
Since people want to have a Pollyanna view of eta I guess that we have to post some of their other gems.
 
I don't use the word "pet." I think it's speciesist language. I prefer "companion animal." For one thing, we would no longer allow breeding. People could not create different breeds. There would be no pet shops. If people had companion animals in their homes, those animals would have to be refugees from the animal shelters and the streets. You would have a protective relationship with them just as you would with an orphaned child. But as the surplus of cats and dogs (artificially engineered by centuries of forced breeding) declined, eventually companion animals would be phased out, and we would return to a more symbiotic relationship ­ enjoyment at a distance." Ingrid Newkirk
 
"Pet ownership is an absolutely abysmal situation brought about by human manipulation." Ingrid Newkirk, national director, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals \
 
"Let us allow the dog to disappear from our brick and concrete jungles--from our firesides, from the leather nooses and chains by which we enslave it." John Bryant, Fettered Kingdoms: An Examination of A Changing Ethic Washington, DC: People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals,
 
The cat, like the dog, must disappear... We should cut the domestic cat free from our dominance by neutering, neutering, and more neutering, until our pathetic version of the cat ceases to exist." John Bryant, Fettered Kingdoms: An Examination of A Changing Ethic (Washington, DC: People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals
 
"As John Bryant has written in his book Fettered Kingdoms, they [pets] are like slaves, even if well-kept slaves." eta's statement on Companion Animals.

"In a perfect world, all other than human animals would be free of human interference, and dogs and cats would be part of the ecological scheme." Peta's Statement on Companion Animals.
 
"You don't have to own squirrels and starlings to get enjoyment from them ... One day, we would like an end to pet shops and the breeding of animals. [Dogs] would pursue their natural lives in the wild ... they would have full lives, not wasting at home for someone to come home in the evening and pet them and then sit there and watch TV," Ingrid Newkirk
 
Lets not forget their No Birth Nation campaign.  [linkhttp://www.helpinganimals.com/f-overpop4.asp]http://www.helpinganimals.com/f-overpop4.asp[/link]
Guess what no births = no animals will be left.
 
And of course their statement "There's No Such Thing as a Responsible Breeder"
 
At this time I won't even go into their ideas on the use of other animals but to I will say that if you believe in PETA you better start munching on those celery sticks.
 
Would you also like to know how many animals they killed at their only shelter in Va.  Here is a link that contains the paperwork.  [linkhttp://www.nokillnow.com/PETAIngridNewkirkResign.htm]http://www.nokillnow.com/PETAIngridNewkirkResign.htm[/link]
 
 


 

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I'm no huge fan of PETA by any means, but, in the interest of fairness; from their website:

Since people want to have a Pollyanna view of eta I guess that we have to post some of their other gems.

I don't use the word "pet." I think it's speciesist language. I prefer "companion animal." For one thing, we would no longer allow breeding. People could not create different breeds. There would be no pet shops. If people had companion animals in their homes, those animals would have to be refugees from the animal shelters and the streets. You would have a protective relationship with them just as you would with an orphaned child. But as the surplus of cats and dogs (artificially engineered by centuries of forced breeding) declined, eventually companion animals would be phased out, and we would return to a more symbiotic relationship ­ enjoyment at a distance." Ingrid Newkirk

"Pet ownership is an absolutely abysmal situation brought about by human manipulation." Ingrid Newkirk, national director, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals \

"Let us allow the dog to disappear from our brick and concrete jungles--from our firesides, from the leather nooses and chains by which we enslave it." John Bryant, Fettered Kingdoms: An Examination of A Changing Ethic Washington, DC: People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals,

The cat, like the dog, must disappear... We should cut the domestic cat free from our dominance by neutering, neutering, and more neutering, until our pathetic version of the cat ceases to exist." John Bryant, Fettered Kingdoms: An Examination of A Changing Ethic (Washington, DC: People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals

"As John Bryant has written in his book Fettered Kingdoms, they [pets] are like slaves, even if well-kept slaves." eta's statement on Companion Animals.

"In a perfect world, all other than human animals would be free of human interference, and dogs and cats would be part of the ecological scheme." Peta's Statement on Companion Animals.

"You don't have to own squirrels and starlings to get enjoyment from them ... One day, we would like an end to pet shops and the breeding of animals. [Dogs] would pursue their natural lives in the wild ... they would have full lives, not wasting at home for someone to come home in the evening and pet them and then sit there and watch TV," Ingrid Newkirk

Lets not forget their No Birth Nation campaign.  [linkhttp://www.helpinganimals.com/f-overpop4.asp]http://www.helpinganimals.com/f-overpop4.asp[/link]
Guess what no births = no animals will be left.

And of course their statement "There's No Such Thing as a Responsible Breeder"

At this time I won't even go into their ideas on the use of other animals but to I will say that if you believe in PETA you better start munching on those celery sticks.

Would you also like to know how many animals they killed at their only shelter in Va.  Here is a link that contains the paperwork.  [linkhttp://www.nokillnow.com/PETAIngridNewkirkResign.htm]http://www.nokillnow.com/PETAIngridNewkirkResign.htm[/link]

Would you state  that the breeders of the approximately  600,000+ Pit Bulls that get euthanized  in shelters every year, are "responsible breeders", or would you say that they are mostly "irresponsible"?   I vote for the latter.....

Would you state that the breeders of the approximately 600,000+ Pit Bulls that get euthanized in shelters every year, are "responsible breeders", or would you say that they are mostly "irresponsible"? I vote for the latter.....

 
Actually I would call that the result of irresponsible ownership.