Are you a breeder who really cares?

now now.. no need for that.
 i have yet to run into a bad breeder HERE. doesnt mean they arent around, but if they are then they already know the consequences and the mutual feelings of careless breeding. its a hot topic here. when someone comes in asking about the best dog for them about fifty people trample over breeders to be the first say "Try adopting a dog from a shelter!!"

but i do understand your grief. i believe if you breed then you should also rescue.. and have homes preplanned for litters AND keep in touch with those people. i have seen some breeders that treat you like family once you buy one of their dogs. they keep in touch, they care,they offer advice and support among other things.

mailforpeace,
 
What are you going to accomplish with that post?  You are criticizing people you don't even know.  This isn't craiglist.  Most people here care about dogs.  You're not going to get anywhere or change anyone's minds by criticizing them either. 

Yes, I used to breed, and yes, I knew exactly where even my pet quality pups went......and yes, kept in touch with the new parents until the day the pups went to the Bridge.  I do the same with my FOSTER pups.  I work with two shelters and I foster.  Yep, I'm hanging my head in shame.

pretty broad brush with an unattractive color to be slinging around a place where you have not spent much time.  Reframing such a post to indicate a concern about folks not adequately screening puppy owners might get you point across in a more inviting manner.

I volunteer in a shelter, and I am amazed at how many purebred dogs end up there. Sure, they end up being adopted usually faster than other dogs, but don't breeders realize that someone's willingness to pay top dollar for a dog doesn't mean a thing? To those of you who breed and sell dogs, do you ever check up on the owner after you sell the dog to see how the dog is doing? Once you breed a dog, you are the human parent of that animal - selling them to a stranger you will never see or talk to again is downright careless, thoughtless and greedy. If you do this, I hope you have enough dog-humanity to feel guilty as s--t about those innocent creatures you handed over to someone who could be an animal abuser or neglecter. You should be ashamed of yourself.

I'm confused, are you against breeding in general?  Or a certain person around here?  Or what?....


Every good breeder I've looked into thoroughly screens potential clients and also basically volunteers as a mentor to you and your dog...for life.  I don't see anyone in iDog advocating for anything less.  Where is your post coming from?

ORIGINAL: maiforpeace

I volunteer in a shelter, and I am amazed at how many purebred dogs end up there.  Sure, they end up being adopted usually faster than other dogs, but don't breeders realize that someone's willingness to pay top dollar for a dog doesn't mean a thing?  To those of you who breed and sell dogs, do you ever check up on the owner after you sell the dog to see how the dog is doing?  Once you breed a dog, you are the human parent of that animal - selling them to a stranger you will never see or talk to again is downright careless, thoughtless and greedy.  If you do this, I hope you have enough dog-humanity to feel guilty as s--t about those innocent creatures you handed over to someone who could be an animal abuser or neglecter.  You should be ashamed of yourself.

Judging by the number of breeders that fought AB1634 in California, which was designed to reduce the number of pets executed in shelters, I have come to the conclusion that many breeders couldn't care less about the welfare of animals, but are totally focused on their own business and the animals  they are selling.  Just my opinion of course, but I can assure you that there are many shelter workers that feel the exact same way.  .

I can assure you that there are many shelter workers that feel the exact same way. .

And many, many do not. []

ORIGINAL: Bobsk8

Judging by the number of breeders that fought AB1634 in California, which was designed to reduce the number of pets executed in shelters, I have come to the conclusion that many breeders couldn't care less about the welfare of animals, but are totally focused on their own business and the animals  they are selling.  Just my opinion of course, but I can assure you that there are many shelter workers that feel the exact same way.  .

 
I don't know about the "couldn't care less" comment but yes few/some/many do have a lower life value on the dog than rescuers.
 
If you can please provide stats of your observation.

Mai's delivery could be nicer (esp considering the landslide of negativity around here of late) but I do think there's a point in there...responsibility. Never a bad thing to over empasize, when it comes to dogs or ANY domestic critter...IMO.

Back when I was still breeding afghan hounds, one of my puppies that I'd sold as a pet did end up in a shelter.  And yes, I felt terribly guilty.
 
His owners phoned me to say they were moving out of the province and couldn't take him.  I told them I'd take Random back.  They said they didn't have to leave for several weeks yet and wanted to keep him a couple more weeks.  Well, they went by with no call so I called them to find their phone had been disconnected and they and my puppy were gone.  I was frantic.
 
Well, through some luck and with the help of a friend who recognized him as one of mine when he was taken to a groomer, I tracked him down.  When I phoned the people who now had him saying I'd like to see my puppy, I was delighted to find that they were under the impression that I could take him back - because I was his breeder!! 
 
They came over with him, I found they were a great couple who ended up buying a puppy from me a year later and we're still friends to this day.
 
It's not really fair to tar all breeders with the same brush is it?  I haven't been on this site for long at all, but it seems to me there's a huge bunch of dedicated, knowledgeable dog lovers here. 

I had to sign in my contracts that if I couldn't keep my shelties for any reason, at any time in their lives, they were to be returned to the breeder. I guess people break contracts sometimes though, for whatever reason, and I personally fault the owners who give up their dogs rather than the breeders in those cases.

Judging by the number of breeders that fought AB1634 in California, which was designed to reduce the number of pets executed in shelters, I have come to the conclusion that many breeders couldn't care less about the welfare of animals, but are totally focused on their own business and the animals they are selling. Just my opinion of course, but I can assure you that there are many shelter workers that feel the exact same way. .

 
Many shelter workers do not feel the same. 

This bill has failed & continuing to bring it up over & over is just [sm=beatdeadhorse.gif]
LET IT GO!!!

walking lady, stuff like that is why I am likely going to start chipping my pups and registering the chips to me and not even mentioning it to the buyer. I trust my buyers but there's always that one time, and people can change with the right set of circumstances. I don't like to do underhanded stuff like that but....in this day and age...I guess I have too...*sigh*

We bred GSD's for 3 yrs in North Dakota. Each person interested in a pup was asked to fill out a questionnaire and was also asked many times to come by to see the pups if they passed the inital questionnaire.  We had a contract stating that if for any reason whatsoever you could not keep your dog, no matter what the reason we would take the dog back. Well one of the most "qualified" people ended up leaving their beautiful black and silver shepherd at a vets office for them to find a home! I only found out after I had run into the girl who I knew that worked at the vets office! I was so mad! I instantly called the people and asked them if they realized they had breeched a contract.  They said they didn't remember seeing that part and I then invited them back to read the original copy they  had signed. Those puppies are now about 6 yrs old and we still talk to most of the people. Most were military, like we were so some just fell out of contact.  Some people just think a dog is not such a big responsibility. These creatures, any pet for that matter, are like kids, who never get any older.  They forever need care and love. I wish it was written somewhere that if you aren't willing to give up a part of your life for an animal then you don't GET ONE!   I for one think the breeder can only do so much to insure the welfare of their pups.  Everyone has to remember there are some good con artists out there that could make you think they are the "ultimate" in deserving one of your pets.