Willow was in a fight!

willowchow

She seems just fine today, THANK GOD!  Well, I should say quite sore and limping a bit.  But, she's putting all four paws down today.  And, all systems are OK, pooped and ate fine.  And, her color looks good, I don't see any bruising so looks like she's doing OK platelet wise too. 

   That's a relief; I'm so glad she's doing better.  I didn't read the whole thread but it looks like you've decided to keep walking her. Jessie has also been attacked  over the years; some were in the neighborhood, others were at the local parks or while hiking at the state parks.  A Chihuahua bit her legs several times, she was also attacked by a Boxer, 3 German Shepherds, one of which bit her on the face, bitten on the nose by a Schnauzer, and bitten all over by a very large Akita mix. The last attack left bruises under her skin from the other dog trying to bite her; if she had been a smaller dog she would have needed several stitches. Fortunately the Chihuahua didn't injure her legs but I know someone whose dog was injured like Mudpuppy's dog and has a permanent limp. We still walk her though; she loves her walks and we love walking her. I really do understand your frustration though concerning people who don't control their dogs.

 Poor Willow! I'm glad she's doing well!

jdata

LOL! I am sorry I got to laugh because I know how you feel but I have Jacks and they get attacked by bigger dogs either loose or tied to a F'N foot stool. Lesson to be learned.. don't walk the dogs in the neighborhood go elsewhere ... park, trial or whatever. but I have to applaud that Jack that's what a terrier is all about, no fear and who gives a rats *** on the size. My Scout will not back down to any dog and I have to watch out for that. That's why there are terriers in this world.

What an asinine response.  The old "My dog is tougher than yours" routine is generally only used by men who have small "equipment". FWIW, people can't always GO to another neighborhood; often they have no cars, there are off leash dogs everywhere, they have limited physical mobility...well, you get the idea.  Also, Lori's DH wasn't doing anything wrong--the owner of the JRT was negligent in allowing the little beast to run amok.

I have a terrier, an American Staffordshire terrer, to be exact, and I can tell you this: if Gyspy were allowed to act like the JRT did, we would be on page one of the newspaper as a vicious dog! Gypsy could kill a JRT with one well-placed bite or a shake of her head would snap its neck. Would I let her do it?  Of course not, but if she HAD killed your dog, you would be on here screaming about the "evil pit bull" that killed your baby.

Yes, terriers can be scrappy dogs. Should they be allowed to act this way just because they are terriers? HELL, NO!!! We worked doubly hard (at least we do if we are responsible owners) to ensure this NEVER happens. Gypsy is quite capable of killing another dog with the greatest of ease. Fortunately, she isn't dog aggressive, but if she were I would never allow her out off leash!

Please rethink your original post.  People think it's "cute" that small dogs are scrappy.  Dog aggression in ANY form from any size dog is intoelerable.

Also, Gypsy is always on leash in public.  The only time she is off leash is in our home, our fenced back yard or a friend's house (fenced back yard) for a play date.

Lori, I'm sorry for not replying sooner but you havebeen in my thoughts the same as Willow & DH.   I'm glad that Miss Willow the Gorgeous seems to be okay.  You guys just can't catch a break.  PLEASE give Miss Willow some rubbins from me.

Lori, I'm glad to here she's doing Ok today.

It is competely un exceptable for any dog of any size to do what that JRT did. I find nothing about this funny, and I'm fairly sure no one else does. I've owned JRT's, and a properly trained JRT should NEVER act like that.

Oh poor Willow! I'm so sorry this happened, but I'm glad she's relatively okay.

shamrockmommy

I have been on the opposite side of the situation, unfortunately, with my minpin boy.

Me too, unfortunately. A few times, I'm ashamed to admit. Once at my Grandmom's house, there was this crazy loose Irish Setter running around in front of the house, and Cherokee pushed on the screen door and it popped open. She chased the poor dog down. Dog went home with a limp quite like Willow's, I think. I of course apologized profusely after getting my dog back inside, and offered to pay vet bills, but the people were extremely nice about it and said she was fine.

Another time, at a different house, she was in my bedroom on the second floor (actually my bedroom WAS the second floor..it was kind of an attic, I guess), and she was looking out the open window, when someone walked by with their dogs. I was on the first floor, and saw something fall off the roof of the house, ran outside and it was Cherokee! Except she didn't fall, my psycho dog, in the height of her craziness, launched herself out the window, off the roof, and down the street after three Chessies (who we saw every day on our walk, had to walk past their yard, while all three of them barked wildly at us...so I want to say it wasn't entirely unprovoked? Still inexcusable though). She didn't end up getting to them though. I think she paused when she realized she was way out of her league, and when I called her back, she was all too thrilled to comply. The couple walking the dogs were actually more worried about whether Cherokee was hurt from jumping out the window than anything else.

Third time was in my current house. I don't even remember exactly how it happened..it was at least 4 years ago, right after we moved in. Somehow she got out, I think it was out the front door, but it could've been from the back yard, and she went after a golden retriever, who was on leash. That time she got to the dog, but just made a lot of noise. There wasn't even saliva on this dog.I atcually suspect that the golden is or was reactive itself, and the guy was really nice and understanding about it. I think he was just relieved his dog didn't respond, and it didn't turn into a full-blown fight.

Since the last time, I've worked majorly with her on her dog aggression, and she's TONS better. Although that golden is the only dog she still gets ansty about seeing on our walks, lol. She doesn't get aggressive, but she gets fidgety and pulls on the leash, which she doesn't do around other dogs now, generally.

jdata

but I have to applaud that Jack that's what a terrier is all about, no fear and who gives a rats *** on the size.

Wow. You applaud a dog for attacking another dog? If that is truly what the JRT is all about, I will surely never get one.  And the JRT who attacked Willow wasn't showing his lack of fear, he was showing his owner's lack of control. "Who gives a rats ___ on the size?" Well, when a 15 lb dog attacks a 50+lb dog (which I'm guessing Willow is), size is important. The JRT wouldn't stand a chance so it is unfair for the JRT owner to let his unpredictable, little dog off leash.

Really, there is such a thing as empathy.

Lori, I'm really sorry this happened to Willow. I hope she's not too shaken up over it? Please give her a kiss on the head for me. Poor baby girl. I'm wishing you no more vet visits for a long time!

Welcome to the world of the average service dog user.

I do hope Willow is doing good, and trust you will report the offender to the AC or local police.

 I am *so* soory that this happened Lori! 

I'm glad that Willow seems to be doing OK--give her scritches for me.  I feel your pain about the walking situation--we have the same issue.  Often we go to different neighborhoods or parks that we are familiar with to walk Sally especially (Jack will usually try to make peace if possible but Sally will go straight into defense mode).  I really don't know why people can't just follow the rules....

I think it is unforunate when people take the obnoxious and aggressive behavior of their dogs lightly.  I'm sure the reaction would be different if it had been Willow charging out of the yard and attacking another dog.....  

Dogleadme

Welcome to the world of the average service dog user.

What a terrifying thing to contemplate.

 It's happened to me, too..... It's scary, no matter what size either dog is, and it is unacceptable, regardless of breed.

My PRT may or may not attack another dog, but it will not happen (unless she leapt out of a window!!! HOW SCARY!!!!) because she is walked on a leash. 

For a while, I used to walk Shadow in our town. And the number of loose dogs wore me down. One time, two Pekinese circled us and the braver one charged Shadow. He grabbed by the scruff and shook that furball like a rag doll. He let go and the other dog took off like a shot for his house and his mate followed. Wise decision.

Another time, a loose JRT threw all the challenge signs first and charged Shadow while his idiot owners just stood there. I said,  "Call your God**** dog back!" and they harangued me for using a curse word. The clearly had no clue about dogs and I tried to educate them and was called a "Dog Freak" for it, which I took as a compliment which threw them mentally off balance. A GSD would charge us. A Cocker Spaniel.

Eventually, I started walking Shadow in Sherman where people have a greater tendency to keep their dogs on leash and there's an animal shelter that responds. We don't have an animal shelter in my town.

Willow did what she was supposed to do and she showed inhibition. The other dog is still living, right? She has inhibition, which is a good thing. Chows and JRTs are fine. Let's do away with idiot humans. That's my campaign slogan.

Thank you everyone.  She's still doing fine.

jdata

but I have to applaud that Jack that's what a terrier is all about, no fear and who gives a rats *** on the size. My Scout will not back down to any dog and I have to watch out for that. That's why there are terriers in this world.

And, now that my head has cleared a little bit I want to say a few things about this statement. 

This sort of encouraging a small dog or any dog for that matter to be aggressive should be considered abuse plain and simple. 

You should NOT be proud of this sort of behavior.  You should be embarrassed by it, angered by it.  

WAKE UP, eventually with this type of encouragement and allowing the dogs to act like this because they are "terriers" is just going to cause more bites to be on record for this breed.  And, as that keeps happening, guess what, they will start to get put on lists for breed bans and the like. 

So, think a little before you make these statements.  If you love and admire this breed as much as your post implies you would want to avoid them being on banned lists and getting this sort of reputation.

If you have some sort of ego issue work it out for yourself, don't make your dog do it for you.