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Posted : 7/12/2007 1:27:56 PM

But in both cases...some sort of an eye witness unrelated to the family? Do I read that right? The original link isn't working for me anymore.

Anonymous

Posted : 7/12/2007 1:31:39 PM

ORIGINAL: fuzzy_dogs_mom

The article did say that the boy was actually sodomized, so I'm hoping that when they do the DNA testing they come back and update the story. The evidence will either be canine or not. I'm tending to think "not" - but who knows? I guess anything is possible.

Joyce

I am also interested as well. I find it very hard to believe that so much damage would be caused by this dog. If the boy was fighing back, as I'm sure he was, I am sure the dog must have been having some difficulty reaching his intended "target" (I feel awkward using certain terms), therefore making it difficult for him to penetrate with enough force to cause such extensive damage to constitute multiple surgeries (I think that's what they mentioned the boy was going to have to have). In any case, this should prove to be very interesting as this story unfolds...

luvmyswissy

Posted : 7/12/2007 1:52:01 PM

[linkhttp://buffalogeek.wnymedia.net/blogs/2007/07/10/toddler-molested-and-attacked-by-pit-bull/]http://buffalogeek.wnymedia.net/blogs/2007/07/10/toddler-molested-and-attacked-by-pit-bull/[/link]

mudpuppy

Posted : 7/12/2007 1:56:00 PM

is it physically possible for a dog to "tie" with a human?

rwbeagles

Posted : 7/12/2007 2:11:59 PM

Some googling I did once, that went terribly wrong would indicate yes. I now employ filters when I Google LOL.

MissMandy

Posted : 7/12/2007 2:15:55 PM

Wow...that is an incredibly strange story. It will deifnitely be intresting to hear what happens. I'm thinking that something's fishy as well. Especially with already conflicting stories, and such extensive damage done to the boy. I hope nothing happens to that poor dog...whatever the case, that dog's intent was not to hurt the poor child. I have to say, the picture of that poor dog in the cage made my heart hurt.

Bobsk8

Posted : 7/12/2007 2:44:00 PM

ORIGINAL: Workingdoglover

I'm finding the story very hard to believe, too...I mean, yeah, I've seen dogs mount people before, but that is always more of a dominant thing than a sexual thing, right? I also think it would be hard for the dog to get that far if the mom only left the child "for a brief moment." And was she in the floor changing the kids diaper? Don't eople usually have tables or something? I'm not saying that it couldn't happen, but it does seem very odd...

This is what the police told the press,

Lockport Police Detective Captain Larry Eggert said, "A little boy was home with his family, and the family pit bull actually sodomized the boy." Eggert told us the boy's family members and neighbors had to beat the dog to get it off the child.

[color="#000000"]Now are we to believe that the family members plus the neighbors that had to beat the dog off the kid are all lying, or concocted this story? This is what I was reffering to in my post above about the knee jerk reaction that people seem to have when a problem involving a PB is reported. It is always,: people are lying, or the victim invited the attack, or the victim should have known better , or some other statement that doesn't make any sense. If there was a video of it, I am certain that soimeone would claim that the video was staged........
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timsdat

Posted : 7/12/2007 2:49:44 PM

is it physically possible for a dog to "tie" with a human?

In a word yes. It was a number of years ago that they busted in this area a house of ill-intensions. Along with the customers and purvayers of their craft that were hauled off to jail was a large male lab that was "paid" for his services. I'm not making this up!!!! He went to animal services and the head of the shelter told the news that a number of people wanted to adopt the dog and there were several that asked if they get the dog without neutering it.

MissMandy

Posted : 7/12/2007 2:52:09 PM

Now are we to believe that the family members plus the neighbors that had to beat the dog off the kid are all lying, or concocted this story? This is what I was reffering to in my post above about the knee jerk reaction that people seem to have when a problem involving a PB is reported. It is always,: people are lying, or the victim invited the attack, or the victim should have known better , or some other statement that doesn't make any sense. If there was a video of it, I am certain that soimeone would claim that the video was staged........

I totally disagree. Why do you specify 'with a Pit Bull'? I think it is the first reaction of a lot of members here to side with the DOG, not just the pit bull. More often than not, the incident could have been prevented had the humans involved been properly informed about how to interact with their canine companion. In no case should a small child be left unattended with a dog, pit bull or not. Simple as that.

Edited for spelling error...my fingers were a'flyin'! [

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Mikaela Ritter

Posted : 7/12/2007 3:00:18 PM

Bob, I think the majority of the people in this thread aren't even really thinking about the fact that this is a pit bull...more are concerned with whether or not such an incident can even happen with a dog, and a good many seem to be concluding that it's possible. I think your argument is a little out of place.

spiritdogs

Posted : 7/12/2007 3:13:59 PM

ORIGINAL: Bobsk8

As usual, when a Pit Bull is involved, the conclusion that everyone jumps to is that the victim is at fault or the people reporting it are not telling the truth...... [&:]

Well, in some cases the "innocent until proven guilty" party really is. I am not willing to pass judgment without evidence. Certainly not given claims of such a bizarre episode.
Just curious, Bobsk8, your "real name" isn't Betsy or Primrose is it?

sillysally

Posted : 7/12/2007 3:21:34 PM

Oh for heaven sakes, the breed had nothing to do with this. I got this link from a lab board, and pretty much all the members there were FAR more critical of the parents and the situation than the members here have been. Maybe they are all secretly pit bull owners. Maybe the labs in those pic really aren't labs at all. What is it with the reactiveness of this board lately? If I'd known Bob was going to go off on a pit bull conspirisy theory tangent I would never have posted this.

Anonymous

Posted : 7/12/2007 3:26:55 PM

I don't care if it's a Pitt Bull of any other dog. I'm curious to know why so many people were needed to pull the dog off the boy? Hummmm? I would think a grab of the collar and and nice hard yank would be enough to pull the dog right off.... hardly necessary for several people to kick the dog. It wasn't being aggressive (as the Humane Society guy stated, there weren't even any bites!). So I find it hard to believe that extreme force was necessary to remove the dog from the kid. Maybe I'm totally wrong. I hope I'm totally worng. That last thing anyone needs now is for people for cry out that Pit Bulls are not only "killers" but also "rapists". Grrreeaat....

tashakota

Posted : 7/12/2007 3:29:30 PM

Not that I've ever witnessed this myself, but my understanding is that dogs "tie" and can not come apart until the, um, "swelling" decreases. Perhaps they did not realize this at the time they were beating the dog so they felt the dog was just hangin' on 'cause he wanted too. Or they're lying and a human did it to the boy and they're blaming the dog.

ashland

Posted : 7/12/2007 3:30:56 PM

What a horrible and unfortunate incident. I hope that the child will be o.k.

As for the dog, I'm sorry, but I highly suspect that humans were far more involved with this than what is being reported. And even if it really did happen as they are saying, how can you leave a child alone with a dog? Up until I was 4 years old, we had a pit bull named Rocky. My mother NEVER left me alone with him. Not because he was a pit, but because he was a DOG. My mom loves dogs, but to leave your baby alone with one is absolute neglect. When I was 4, Rocky jumped on my and pinned me down. He meant no harm at all, but that was all it took for my mom to have my dad get rid of him. [

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WHOA--Did anyone else hear about this?