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    • Gold Top Dog

    rwbeagles-debate

    will McCain show up...LOL. I wanted to see what everyone's thoughts were on how he'll arrive if he does.

    My thought...

    McCain will arrive just in the nick of time, riding on the back of a caribou...waving an American Flag and carrying a calculator.

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     he tried to give obama an out....

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    LOL...looks like he decided to reverse his position and attend. Change is good.

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    rwbeagles

    McCain will arrive just in the nick of time, riding on the back of a caribou...waving an American Flag and carrying a calculator.

    Gina - LOL!!

    I just got a CNN alert saying McCain is going to show. Well, no surprise there. The whole thing totally backfired on him - IMO.  After listening to Palin's interview with Katie Couric and Palin's explanation of why she feels she has foreign policy experience, I really have to wonder where McCain found his campaign staff Huh?

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    Boy, I sure agree with the wondering where he found his campaign staff and advisors.  I think they all work for Obama!

    It should be an interesting debate. 

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    Gina, if he's riding in on the back of a caribou, then who's in the plane with a ....

    NEVERMIND

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    LOL, zing!

    Let's hope she has her Russian phrasebook and Atlas in her purse along with the lipstick!

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     Is it any wonder they don't let the press have any access to her? Indifferent

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    Well of course SP has foreign policy experience.  How could you doubt that?  In her own words "my state is between two foreign countries and Putin flies over my house."  I don't know how Katie Couric kept a straight face.  I think I'm actually looking forward to the VP debate more than the one tonight. Smile

    Joyce

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    fuzzy_dogs_mom
    I think I'm actually looking forward to the VP debate more than the one tonight. Smile

    Man, me too! Let's just hope there isn't some fiscal crisis that hits Alaska and she has to cancel.

    I feel a little mean laughing about this whole thing, but listening to Armstrong and Getty cutting up on her this morning made my commute fly by. They were playing the tape from that beauty queen from North or South Carolina that made the airwaves last year and comparing her to Palin. It was hysterical!

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    Have  you seen the news clips with her minister?  The one from Kenya that persecuted a woman and drove her out of town by accusing her of witchcraft and blaming her for all the traffic accidents in the city?  SP admitted that he was also responsible for her getting elected governor because he didn't "ask" God ... he "told him to MAKE IT HAPPEN." And these were the people who were making a big todo about Obama's minister.  That man might have said some things in a controversial way, but at least his elevator goes all the way to the top floor. Big Smile

    Joyce

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    If McCain does show up for the debate, I would like to hear Obama's answers to his relationship with Bill Ayers in the Annenberg Challenge in Chicago. Most people here are too young to remember who Bill Ayers is and what is part in the Weathermen in 60's was. But I imagine such questions won't get asked. This debate could actually be about policy, though I would like to know Obama's stance on terrorism. Which brings me back to the Bill Ayers question.

     

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    ron2

    If McCain does show up for the debate, I would like to hear Obama's answers to his relationship with Bill Ayers in the Annenberg Challenge in Chicago. Most people here are too young to remember who Bill Ayers is and what is part in the Weathermen in 60's was. But I imagine such questions won't get asked. This debate could actually be about policy, though I would like to know Obama's stance on terrorism. Which brings me back to the Bill Ayers question.

    I'm guessing that a lot of people who belonged to radical groups in the 60s grew up to be nice, normal people. Smile Why do you think Obama's stance on terrorism would be any different than yours or mine?  It almost sounds like you suspect  he might be secretly in favor of it.

    Joyce

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    fuzzy_dogs_mom

    I'm guessing that a lot of people who belonged to radical groups in the 60s grew up to be nice, normal people. Smile Why do you think Obama's stance on terrorism would be any different than yours or mine?  It almost sounds like you suspect  he might be secretly in favor of it.

    Not necessarily. At the least, poor judgement. I'll go ahead and give the answer. Obama and I are approx the same age. So, he was a kid when these things happened. Bill Ayers belonged to the Weathermen. Thanks to Bill Ayers, they did a bit more than burn bras and draft cards. They bombed the Pentagon. They bombed a number of police stations in New York City. A few people got killed. Ayers was charged but later set free. And he bragged about being guilty, yet being set free. And, on 9-11-01, he felt we deserved the attack and he wished he had done more back in the heyday of the Weathermen. He is a known, documented terrorist.  And he worked on the Annenberg Challenge, along with Director Obama, who has been to parties at Ayers' house in his honor. No, Obama didn't commit the acts of terrorism, but he's hanging out and being chummy with a terrorist.

    Now, I know a number of people will come along and either justify that or explain how one is not guilty by association and you are right. Just as I have known some biker people, some good, some bad and my being in the same circles as someone who may have committed some crimes doesn't mean I am guilty of the crimes. But it behooves me to be careful with whom I associate. And since we will allow that we're not always guilty of what our associates are, why not allow variance in the severity of crimes? Someone selling some marijuana is not as bad as someone blowing up buildings.

    But these may or may not be issues. Certainly, at some point, having learned some history, Obama would know of Ayers' background. And should have disassociated or at least asked how we can allow a terrorist to be involved in education. Instead of going to his house for a party supporting his political career.

    I did watch some of the debate, each candidate relying on his best talents. Obama with the gift of words with a promise to change things and McCain with decades of experience and a proven track record. I think Obama's a little better at debating but that's not what makes a good president, it justs makes for good tv. Just as being a hero and a combat veteran doesn't make a good president. And, no matter how they debate each other, once in the White House, things change. And, a debate doesn't predict the election. Reagan didn't do so well in his first debate but he kicked butt in the next one.

    But, for once, it's nice to hear the candidates in their own words, which is a campaign manager's nightmare. They usually try to keep a candidate from speaking their mind because of the high risk of foot-in-mouth disease.

     

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    You might want Bill Ayers Ron, but I want to hear more about the "Keating 5" myself.