Sarah Palin ~ Unbelievable!

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    whtsthfrequency

    Faith.....tends to stand in the way of progression"

     

    Faith does not. Extremists who think they are properly displaying faith do. Very different.

     

    You're right.  And therefore they have no business being elected to a public office.

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    Palin is hardly a religious extremist.  She's not running around killing people that don't believe the way she does.  She doesn't seem any different from the millions of people who also go to church on Sunday.  To say that none of us belong in the public eye because we don't have an anything goes philosophy on life, is sad. 

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    jenns

    whtsthfrequency

    Faith.....tends to stand in the way of progression"

     

    Faith does not. Extremists who think they are properly displaying faith do. Very different.

     

    You're right.  And therefore they have no business being elected to a public office.

    Ummm...if that's the case, we're in big trouble. Remember all the news about Obama and his pastor? Hmm

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    cakana

    jenns

    whtsthfrequency

    Faith.....tends to stand in the way of progression"

     

    Faith does not. Extremists who think they are properly displaying faith do. Very different.

     

    You're right.  And therefore they have no business being elected to a public office.

    Ummm...if that's the case, we're in big trouble. Remember all the news about Obama and his pastor? Hmm

    Obama is not trying to stop scientific education and medical advances because they happen to conflict with his religious views.

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    I found her statements to a group of students, about soldiers going to Iraq "on a task that is from God"....rather extreme. I'd also say her saying she'd use her position to invoke God's will for Alaska is extreme.

    In fact if you replace God with Allah I think she'd be considered extremist, by plenty of people...yes. So I suppose it's all a matter of perspective.

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    rwbeagles

    In fact if you replace God with Allah I think she'd be considered extremist, by plenty of people...yes. So I suppose it's all a matter of perspective.

    I couldn't agree more.  My husband and I were just saying this last night.  You must be reading our minds!

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    rwbeagles

    I found her statements to a group of students, about soldiers going to Iraq "on a task that is from God"....rather extreme. I'd also say her saying she'd use her position to invoke God's will for Alaska is extreme.

    In fact if you replace God with Allah I think she'd be considered extremist, by plenty of people...yes. So I suppose it's all a matter of perspective.

    I found her speech pretty creepy myself and wasn't defending her, but I had an uneasy feeling when I watched some of the sermons that Obama's former preacher made too...so, I was just saying Wink

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    difference being SHE said those things, herself without prompting or speechwriters, those were her own thoughts she thought worthy of sharing with youngsters...no one spoke and then everyone assumed agrement from another that wasn't even present.

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    rwbeagles

    I found her statements to a group of students, about soldiers going to Iraq "on a task that is from God"....rather extreme. I'd also say her saying she'd use her position to invoke God's will for Alaska is extreme.

    In fact if you replace God with Allah I think she'd be considered extremist, by plenty of people...yes. So I suppose it's all a matter of perspective.

    Gina, You are right on!

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    alieliza
    rwbeagles

    I found her statements to a group of students, about soldiers going to Iraq "on a task that is from God"....rather extreme. I'd also say her saying she'd use her position to invoke God's will for Alaska is extreme.

    In fact if you replace God with Allah I think she'd be considered extremist, by plenty of people...yes. So I suppose it's all a matter of perspective.

    Gina, You are right on!

     

    I tried to intimate that earlier in this thread - thank you Gina for being more clear Big Smile

    And she has been instructed to not speak on her own or answer any questions read here

     

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    And some people believe in God, even if they hold public office. There's a 50 % chance that Obama believes in Allah, and he wants public office. Either one is fine. And Obama professes to be a christian, even though he has slipped up and mentioned his muslim faith. How come either one hasn't been called into question? Because Palin is a republican.

    Interesting...

     

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    ron2

    And some people believe in God, even if they hold public office. There's a 50 % chance that Obama believes in Allah, and he wants public office. Either one is fine. And Obama professes to be a christian, even though he has slipped up and mentioned his muslim faith. How come either one hasn't been called into question? Because Palin is a republican.

    Interesting...

     

    I am deeply saddened by the fact that someone would have to hide their faith, or any other harmless characteristic, in order to gain public support. (Presidency aside) why should any muslim be shunned, or worse off, feel as if they need to act as if something they are not, conceal a (possibly) very important part of their identity in a pluralistic society? That to me is "interesting"...

    Why is there a 50% chance that Obama believes in Allah? Im not mathematician, but both of my parents subscribe to a religion, and I subscribe to neither. Is there a statistic that applies to me?

    Lastly, some of Palin's policies are openly, directly and heavily influenced by her religion. I do not think that Obama is imposing many of his beliefs upon the public (were he to be voted into office, of course).

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    ron2

     There's a 50 % chance that Obama believes in Allah, and he wants public office.

     

    Are you serious?  Obama is quite outspoken about being a Christian... and considering how many different faiths exists in this world, the percent chance that Obama (or you or I) is a Muslim is probably more like .1%

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    Liesje
    Are you serious?  Obama is quite outspoken about being a Christian... and considering how many different faiths exists in this world, the percent chance that Obama (or you or I) is a Muslim is probably more like .1%

    In a nationally broadcast interview, Obama has a bit of a freudian slip and mentions "my muslim faith." The reporter corrects him to say "my christian faith."

    But that's kind of secondary. My original question still stands. Why is that Obama's faith, whatever it is, is not called into question as to how it would inform his policies? And yet with Palin, it's open season.

    Even in the few responses based on my 50 % remark, no one has answered that question, not even you. I know, how dare I say anything not fully glorious of Obama.

    The answer is because she is a republican.

    Excuse me, side-effects of politics, (puke, barf, ralf, hugging the porcelain steering wheel, hurl)

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    Perhaps because OBama isn't making an issue of being on a mission from God, or invoking God on a regular basis?

    Look, we've had eight long years of a President who believes he has a direct line to the Big Guy and that the Big Guy TOLD him in no uncertain terms to get us into Iraq.  Shoot, for all I know, God probably told Bush to rape the American tax payer by allowing Big Oil to have their windfall profits year after year.  Maybe He told W that only the strong survive and those who can't afford gas and food don't deserve to live.......and yes, I know that sounds ridiculous, but it is no more so than what has been going on in this country for the past 8 years.

    And no further attacks on American soil since 2001?  Good grief wasn't that enough?  Under no other President has their ever been a terrorist attack of such stunning magnitude.  Are you aware that there are actually people who believe that our own government, and not terrorists, were responsible for that act?  I don't buy into most conspiracy theories, but I have to admit, having seen some of their "evidence" my mind insists on knowing "what if".

    Anytime a persons religious beliefs become a part of how they make decisions for OTHERS, there is a danger.  And, there is a very real possibility of TWO SC nominations during the next four years.  That's rather frightening to ponder.

    I personally am well past the stage of worrying about birth control or unwanted pregnancy.  But, sorry, I don't like even the whispered threat of abortion being taken away from us as an option.  And, I've said many times that I ABHOR the use of abortion as belated BC but I don't get to judge others for the decisions that they make.

    We do NOT need another person in high office who allows their personal religious beliefs to interfer with the running of the nation.  And Palin is just too "devout" to be within my comfort level.  Especially considering McCains age and health.