Sarah Palin ~ Unbelievable!

aerial1313

PALIN: Faith is very, very important in my life. I don't believe I wear it on my sleeve and I would never try to shove it down anybody else's throat and try to convert anybody. But just a very simple faith that is important to me — it really is my foundation.

So let's put that discussion to rest, shall we?

I'd like to see her definition of "shoving down anybody's throat" before agreeing that argument should be put to rest.  If she makes ANY decision on the basis of her religious beliefs that affects the public, she is/would be doing that which she claims she'd never do.  

I saw her on TV saying that she would like to see Roe vs Wade overturned ... so if that isn't shoving her religious beliefs down everyone elses throat, what is?

voicing an opinion? arent we still entitled to that in this country?

fuzzy_dogs_mom

However - I'd trust the economy to someone who can see that there is a problem and things need to be changed before I'd trust it to someone who thinks things are fine now

He never said that!

Here is the full quote:

"You know," said McCain, "there's been tremendous turmoil in our financial markets and Wall Street and it is -- people are frightened by these events. Our economy, I think, still the fundamentals of our economy are strong. But these are very, very difficult time. And I promise you, we will never put America in this position again. We will clean up Wall Street. We will reform government."

Lots of people say they would like to see Roe v Wade overturned, but that is their opinion, and I have yet to hear her say she is going to work towards that goal as VP.  If she said something like, "I will make it my #1 goal to overturn Roe v Wade because it's against my religion" then yes, I'd have a problem with that.  And BTW, Christians are not the only people who are pro-life.

cyclefiend2000

voicing an opinion? arent we still entitled to that in this country?

If you say it or I say it, it's voicing an opinion.  I think it's much more than that when it's said by someone who could possibly be in the position of appointing Supreme Court Justices, doG help us all.

Joyce

cyclefiend2000

 

I saw her on TV saying that she would like to see Roe vs Wade overturned ... so if that isn't shoving her religious beliefs down everyone elses throat, what is?

voicing an opinion? arent we still entitled to that in this country?

Of course. To say she disagrees with Roe v Wade is an opinion, and one she's entirely entitled to. Saying she'd like to see it overturned sounds like an agenda to me. She was chosen because of her far right positions on a variety of positions, abortion being one of them. Remember that the next administration will be in a position to appoint at least one and possibly several Supreme Court judges, and THEY have the power to overturn Roe v Wade. Anyone who doesn't think this is a possibility has not been paying attention. It's not only a possibility, it's a carefully orchestrated plan.
 

Benedict

I'd like to see her definition of "shoving down anybody's throat" before agreeing that argument should be put to rest.  If she makes ANY decision on the basis of her religious beliefs that affects the public, she is/would be doing that which she claims she'd never do.

Well, we can't just predict that she may or may not do something, unless she specifically says it is a goal of hers.  Can't we give her the benefit of the doubt that she will do what she says, in this case, that she will not shove her religion down anyone's throat?  Isn't that what we do in any election?  We vote because of what a candidate says they are going to do - we can't foresee the future that they will or won't keep the promises they make.  I can give you one example though.  When she found out she was pregnant with a child with Down's Syndrome, she made the decision to have the baby, rather than abort it.  And I would venture to say that her faith had a lot to do with that decision.  I don't think anyone would fault her for making that decision.  Oh, wait, I stand corrected, someone did: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/rusty-weiss/2008/09/17/objectivist-writer-trig-palin-financial-burden-who-should-have-been-abo.  Disgusting.

fuzzy_dogs_mom

As far as the economy, I'll admit I don't even begin to understand all the ins and out of taxes and investing.  However - I'd trust the economy to someone who can see that there is a problem and things need to be changed before I'd trust it to someone who thinks things are fine now.

I guess that was the point I was trying to make is that this legislation McCain was cosponsoring was a real attempt to change the status quo. The candidates can say anything they please and they're certainly saying what they think we want to hear, but I like evidence that what they say is truthful. My gut says that McCain is more fiscally conservative and that's hugely important to me.

I thought I heard Sarah Palin state in her interview that she had no interest in overturning Roe v. Wade.

aerial1313

  When she found out she was pregnant with a child with Down's Syndrome, she made the decision to have the baby, rather than abort it.  And I would venture to say that her faith had a lot to do with that decision.  I don't think anyone would fault her for making that decision. 

Many, many people would have made that same decision.  And anyone who would fault her for that, publicly or otherwise, is a total a$$wipe IMO.  But ... other people would have made a different decision and they have as much right to their choice as she does to hers. That's what "choice" means.

Joyce

Cassidys Mom

To say she disagrees with Roe v Wade is an opinion, and one she's entirely entitled to. Saying she'd like to see it overturned sounds like an agenda to me.

Has she actually said those words? If so, can anyone provide the link to it?

cakana

I thought I heard Sarah Palin state in her interview that she had no interest in overturning Roe v. Wade.

Which interview is that?  I'd like to re-watch it or read the transcript to see what she said about it.

aerial1313

I can give you one example though.  When she found out she was pregnant with a child with Down's Syndrome, she made the decision to have the baby, rather than abort it.  And I would venture to say that her faith had a lot to do with that decision.  I don't think anyone would fault her for making that decision.  Oh, wait, I stand corrected, someone did: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/rusty-weiss/2008/09/17/objectivist-writer-trig-palin-financial-burden-who-should-have-been-abo.  Disgusting.

I said a decision that affects the public - that one does not.  What she does in her personal life is of zero concern to me and should be of zero concern to anyone.

And no, I never EVER would give a politician the "benefit of the doubt".   Her saying that she'd like to see Roe v. Wade overturned sounds like it's a goal of hers to me, since she'd be in a position to help make that happen.  I don't vote on the basis of "without any evidence to the contrary I'll believe what you say".  I vote on the basis of having LOOKED for evidence to the contrary and base my decision on whether or not I found any. 

cakana

Has she actually said those words? If so, can anyone provide the link to it?

Cathy, I don't have the link (and if I did I probably wouldn't be able to figure out how to post it) but I did hear her say exactly that on TV - she would like to see it overturned. Hopefully someone with more "techno ability" than I have can find it and post it.

Joyce

aerial1313

cakana

I thought I heard Sarah Palin state in her interview that she had no interest in overturning Roe v. Wade.

Which interview is that?  I'd like to re-watch it or read the transcript to see what she said about it.

The one she did with Charles Gibson. I could swear she said that pro-life was her choice but she realized everyone didn't agree with it. She said something like "I think we'd all like to see less abortions performed"....I've tried to find the transcript from the interview but I haven't had any luck yet.

cakana

The one she did with Charles Gibson. I could swear she said that pro-life was her choice but she realized everyone didn't agree with it. She said something like "I think we'd all like to see less abortions performed"....I've tried to find the transcript from the interview but I haven't had any luck yet.

I found it.  Here is what she said:

GIBSON: Roe v. Wade, do you think it should be reversed?

PALIN: I think it should and I think that states should be able to decide that issue... I am pro-life. I do respect other people's opinion on this, also, and I think that a culture of life is best for America... What I want to do, when elected vice president, with John McCain, hopefully, be able to reach out and work with those who are on the other side of this issue, because I know that we can all agree on the need for and the desire for fewer abortions in America and greater support for adoption, for other alternatives that women can and should be empowered to embrace, to allow that culture of life. That's my personal opinion on this, Charlie.

So, let's analyze.  Constitutionally speaking, she is right that this kind of topic should be decided upon at the state level, not the federal level.  She never said she would work to overturn it, but that she would work with pro-choice folks to try and reduce the number of abortions and provide alternatives.  I really don't have a problem with this.  Doesn't sound at all like she's letting her religion affect the lives of the rest of us.  So, if the issue of abortion is the #1 topic on which you will base your vote, then this should decide it for you one way or the other.  For me, there are much more pressing issues to consider.

I also found it interesting that a simple google search of "palin roe wade" turns up nothing but blog posts.  I'll repeat that blogs are not journalism, they are opinions.

aerial1313

I also found it interesting that a simple google search of "palin roe wade" turns up nothing but blog posts.  I'll repeat that blogs are not journalism, they are opinions.

Thanks for finding it. I too found tons and tons of bull to sift thru trying to find anything and sadly, there are many people who are going to stop at those blogs of garbage (regarding both candidates) and read them as hard, cold facts.