Absolute Worst Vet Experience Ever!! (mrstjohnson)

    • Gold Top Dog

    Absolute Worst Vet Experience Ever!! (mrstjohnson)

    As many of you know, we recently moved back to MI from WI which meant finding a new vet for Charlie.  Well, we went yesterday and I can honestly say I have never had an experience like this before nor will I ever forget it.  So, I was waiting there with Charlie and Riley (I had to bring her and it was totally unavoidable due to 100 other issues I have going on) for Charlie's appt.  In walks two very large, very aggressive, very uncontrollable dogs with their owners.  I gave them the benefit of the doubt and didn't pass judgement right away; however, as we sat there it became quite clear that these dogs were OUT OF CONTROL and very powerful.  Frankly, I was starting to get scared but they called me in the exam room so I was OK....I thought. 

    The way the vet's office is structured, the exam rooms open to the waiting room.  So I had to ask the gentlemen to move their dogs so I could pass.  Once we get in the room the vet tech asks me what all of the comotion is about.  By this point the dogs are doing something that I would call screaming and growling at everyone and everything and trashing around.  The owners could not get them to consistently lay down (they were shouting out the lay down command which wasn't working).  I told her and she just rolled her eyes, saying they should do something about that.  So, there I sat with Riley and Charlie for ONE HOUR in the exam room waiting for the vet to come in.  All this time these two dogs are FREAKING OUT (screaming, barking, growling, thrashing around) outside my door.  They hit the door at least three times popping it open.  It got to the point that I moved to the opposite corner just in case one of them got loose.  Poor Charlie was totally stressing, I was trying to stay calm (Riley on the other hand was having the time of her life and thought it was funny that little stinker).  I wanted to leave but couldn't because these dogs were blocking the door.  Normally, it if was just Charlie and I, I would have scooped him up and walked out.  But, since I had Riley I couldn't carry both of them and I was stuck in this room with no way out.

    Finally the vet comes in and I ask him what the deal is with the dogs, his basic response was yeah, they are aggressive.  I was floored.  At this point I just wanted to get the exam done, get on with it, and go home.  He walked out to get a vet tech to hold Charlie for his ear exam.  While the vet tech was there (vet had walked out for a minute) she couldn't believe what was going on (like this was the first time she heard the dogs).  She said they were trying to get them in an exam room because they are out of control.  Finally, the vet walks back in and says they are moving the dogs to a different area so I could leave the room since it wasn't safe for me to walk out there.  This entire time I am totally speechlees, I was so upset I didn't even know what to say. 

    Finally we get out of there, pay and leave.  I came home and called back and talked to the receptionist and told her what happened and how upset I was.  Her response was, yeah I don't know why they brought them in together since they "fight" and it's never good.  I told her that it was the vet's responsibility to make sure situations like these don't happen.  That the vet failed to protect his other clients.  That he should be aware of these dogs' issues (they all admitted they had been there before) and should make sure this situation should not occur.  Her response was, sorry.

    I have to say that I have never been in a situation like this before.  Where I was scared for both myself, Charlie and Riley and couldn't leave.  Of course, yesterday was the day I left my cell phone at home.  Otherwise I would have called someone and told them to come up there immediately.  Or I would have called the vet and told them to get me out of the room.  I know this all sounds so dramatic, but honestly it was very scary.

    WOW, thanks I feel better now.  Thanks for listening

    P.S.  Not only was the whole experience a disaster, the vet barely looked at Charlie, didn't ask any questions and frankly didn't seem interested in us at all.  Well, so much for recommendations, we will never be back!!

    • Bronze

     very bad handling on the part of the clinic.  If the dogs were upset they should have been put in a room to wait or asked to wait outside in their car depending on the weather.  I don't blame the dogs the vets office is a stressful place for all dogs never mind those who are aggressive but really the vets office should have handled it better.

     

    sorry you had such a bad experience....  

     

    • Gold Top Dog

    Shalva - I assume from your descrption of your location, you are in Michigan Big Smile

    • Bronze

     nope, not michigan..... sorry .... NH

    • Gold Top Dog

    Shalva

     nope, not michigan..... sorry .... NH

    Sorry - When you had palm on your hand, I had just assumed Smile because that's how we typically show where we live.  Welcome to the forum.  I checked out your web-site...beautiful dogs!!!!

    • Bronze

     thats kind of funny, I was wondering why you assumed that lol

    well thanks for the compliments on the pups.... they are at this moment creating quite a ruckus looking for breakfast

     

    • Gold Top Dog

    Good grief, that sounds awful! I hope you can find a better place to go next time. 

    • Gold Top Dog

     Hey Lisa,

    I have a couple of suggestions for vet clinics sort of in your area. I don't know if you went to one of the suggestions, I will email you (from home) later and send you the names.

    Sorry about your experience. Vet offices are stressers for dogs so bringing in assertive aggressive dogs will always escalate the issue.

    I LOVE MY VET OFFICE (I wish you were close enough) Recently I went in with Teddi (surprised? I think not) and as I walked in with Teddi under control there was LARGE rottie with vision issues, and the handler said "this is not good, my dog is VERY dog aggressive" so they whisked her into a room right away. I have also never had to wait longer than maybe 5 minutes to be seen from the time I walk in the door. They have a back entrance that they have some customers use, and there have been times they have said "stay in the room until we come get you we have to discharge a problem dog". They are VERY concerned for all their clients well being. The vets are awesome too.

     

    • Gold Top Dog

    Ann - I am completely willing to drive to your vet's office - you aren't that far away from me - even in Ann Arbor is worth it!  Trust me, we used to drive 1 1/2 hours for Charlie's vet.  We had a more local place too in case of emergencies, etc. but his vet moved and we followed her.  DH and I joked last night that we would even be willing to drive back to WI + the drive further north again.  I guess we were so spoiled with an excellent vet right from the beginning we didn't even realize these things would happen.

    • Gold Top Dog

    The dogs carrying on doesn't surprise me and wouldn't be enough to turn me off (after all, even aggressive/reactive dogs need to see a vet), but I think any hospital should have some sort of protocol.  If I ran the show, I would have put the dogs in their room right away and request that the owner bring them in muzzled and on slip leads (no chance of slipping the collar or stepping out).  Maybe sedation would have been a good idea, although that can compound the problem in some dogs.  The male GSD we almost adopted got aggressive when sedated before anaesthesia so he cannot be given sedatives, it just makes it worse.  Also, the owners should take a bit more responsibility, maybe schedule the first or last appt of the day and remind the techs that the dogs need to be immediately moved into their room.

    Last time I had an aggressive dog at the vet (not my dog), we did have to wait a while and there were a lot of people in the waiting room (not the vet's fault, the got us in last minute).  I had her on a short lead and was holding her face in my lap, distracting her from the other dogs.  She was also sick and parasitic so as the "owner" I took precautions and tried to keep her away from the other animals. 

    Luckily, I don't think I've ever had to wait in a room longer than 10 minutes before a vet comes in.  Sometimes I end up waiting a while if I asked for fecals or other tests that take time to prepare. 

    • Gold Top Dog

    the hour-long wait in the room seems worse than the dogs. I can't stand waiting at medical facilities for scheduled appointments.

    • Gold Top Dog

    I think that's what upset me the most.  Not the aggressive dogs, but that no one in the vet's office did anything about it for an hour.  They all acted completed stupified to the issue.  I even told the woman that last night, I didn't blame the dogs, I blamed the way the vet's office handled it.  They simply blamed the owners for bring both dogs in at the same time.  I understand if it takes 10 -15 minutes to get the dogs in a room or something, but for an hour is insane. 

    • Gold Top Dog

    You got it when you said the owners needed to take more responsibilitiy there.  When I take Willow I immediately take the bull by the horns.  I bring her in with her own muzzle on and when I get there I go in without her and tell them she needs to be in a room right away and if they say they don't have a room she waits outside. I've got special leashes that are shorter and more durable for situations like this and I usually make sure I have three ways I could grab her if needed.  

    I would NEVER let her sit there and make other people uncomfortable. As someone whose been there I can't see how the owners could stand it!  I hate having to deal with her acting like that.  Even when she goes to the ER vet I know there is a back way in and I always go in and ask that they let us in that way.  But, if I didn't say anything you can bet they'd have us sitting in the wait area with people with other dogs, cats even and kids.  Yes, being the owner of an aggressive dog is quite different and some people don't even realize it.

    • Gold Top Dog

    GOOD FOR YOU -- on **SO** many levels!!

    Good for you that you stood up to them and said "never again" -- if they are this bad at handling something like this, then imagine how bad they could be at handling a real 'emergency'??

     Good for you on your call that it was actually the owner's fault -- it was.  They should have been more prepared and obviously it's happened before (but what .. maybe a ton of turnover in the vet's office so not everyone 'knew' who should have??).  I'd be completely humiliated if my dogs ever created that kind of disturbance.

     But *particularly* good for you that you came home and called right away.  You didn't wait until memory faded, you didn't wait until other folks were 'on duty' ... you called right away!  Being held prisoner in a vet's exam room with a baby and a dog -- wow. 

    Good for you that you actually had the presence of mind to "stick it out" and you didn't just allow anger to make you try to get beyond the dogs.  Sometimes knowing when a situation is just plain too dangerous to 'go there' is a tough call.  You took the high road for you and the baby (little stinker -- of course she had a ton of fun, but wow -- better than her being scared to death for you to handle as well ... phew!!). 

    I'm also glad you mentioned the cell thing ... too often some of us forget that a cell phone can be your biggest asset in a situation like that -- altho you might have had to call in the National Guard to have gotten any real 'help' given how clueless they were.  I'm afraid I would simply have lost my temper there and then ... and you didn't. 

    You handled it well and then in 'venting' you actually gave some darned good information to others who may never have handled anything quite like that. 

    I hope you find a better vet in the meantime ... it would be interesting to contact Michigan (the State of) and find out if anyone has lodged a complaint against this particular clinic.  Given that they called you in first, and probably should have quarantined those dogs in the room you were in (and given the rest of the world some peace) I'd honestly have to question their decisions on a broad scale and the state might support that.

    I guess the 'good part' is that you weren't there for anthing truly of an emergency nature.  I'm sorry you had such a harrowing experience ... you probably had way more patience than I might have.

    • Gold Top Dog

    A lot of places just are not prepared for dogs like that.  The vets and techs aren't comfortable around dogs like that sometimes especially if they don't deal with that sort of dog all the time.  That's why I put this on the owners who just sat there and let it happen.