Getting A Puppy! (on it's way) *pix added pg.2*

    • Gold Top Dog
    It's just a shame that's all. Nothing personal, from me...just mainly frustration with the situation of breeders like this in general.
    I do hope your puppy if you should end up with one from this person...is healthy and everything you hope it can be.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Thanks RW...I hope so too.[&:]
    • Gold Top Dog
    • Gold Top Dog
    And alot of them are nowhere near me.[&:]
    We've found a pup. If it falls through, I'll let ya'll know.[:)]
    • Gold Top Dog
    ORIGINAL: iluvbo

    And alot of them are nowhere near me.[&:]
    We've found a pup. If it falls through, I'll let ya'll know.[:)]

     
    But I'll bet that they know of or have contacts that know of a rescue near you, or at least of responsible breeders. 
     
    Please read [linkhttp://forum.dog.com/asp/tm.asp?m=339306]this[/link] to know why alot of us aren't so excited about your particular breeder, who is one of many that produce alot of puppies. 
     
    I understand the hunt for a puppy.  I hunted for a very, very long time to find my guy.  I think patience is very important in researching both the breeder and the pup. 
     
    Good luck and know that no matter what you decide we'll be here.[:)]
    • Gold Top Dog
    Not to argue, but my breeder had 19 puppies available at one time this year. She breeds her 3 bitches once a year so all the puppies come at the same time.  I was able to interview and meet her, meet her dogs (all house/farm dogs) and see where the puppies were raised. I also got to visit the puppies whenever I wanted starting at 4-5 weeks old. The pups were extremely well cared for and not born and raised in kennels. They were allowed in the house, had a doggy door and were really well socialized. I started walking my puppy on short walks at 6 weeks old around her farm so when I brought him home, he already knew me to a certain extent. With 19 puppies, several adult dogs, horses, geese and people coming and going during those 8 weeks, nothing phases my puppy.
     
    So, you never know. This breeder could be a puppy mill type or a back yard breeder but you really need to go and see the place. If you couldn't go and visit and see the conditions for yourself then I'd be warning you against getting one of these dogs. But, as long as you can go make the judgement yourself then you make the call.
     
    Whatever happens, it's so important to socialize your pup as soon as you get it home. Especially if it is kept in a kennel/cage and not given a lot of human contact. Don't hesitate and take it every where with you to meet all types of people, see different situations, etc.
     
    Good luck.
     
     
    • Gold Top Dog
    You can argue numbers any which way really Jewlieee. But I'd wager your breed is a larger one where 4+ puppy litters are not uncommon.
     
    ETA: I'd also wager that the breeder you mention has an attachment to one breed...not 3 or more? Just guessing...lol...could be totally off.
    • Gold Top Dog
    We found some schnauzer puppies.

    The pups look cute!   I hope they really are the sweetest, healthest puppies imaginable.
     
    However, all breeds have one or more genetic disorders in their gene pool.  The Canine Inherited Disorders Database (below) will show you what genetic problems the mini-Schnauzer has, so you can have an informed health talk with the breeder about what tests are used to screen the breeding stock.  Click on "Breeds" on the left, then "S", then "Schnauzer, minature".  To increase your odds of avoiding sick sinus syndrome (a relatively common heart problem), you might want to get the male.
     
    Pay careful attention to the health guarantee.  Many genetic problems don't show up in the first 30 days.  If there is a longer genetic guarantee, are you required to return the pup to get a refund?  Most people won't return a pup that they have fallen in love with and some breeders (grrrrr!!) will take advantage of that.
     
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    Questions to Ask Before Buying a Puppy
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    Canine Inherited Disorders Database

    [linkhttp://www.upei.ca/~cidd/intro.htm]http://www.upei.ca/~cidd/intro.htm[/link]
     
    Progressive Retinal Atrophy in the Miniature Schnauzer
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    [linkhttp://www.qualitydogs.com/Miniature_Schnauzer/information.html]www.qualitydogs.com/Miniature_Schnauzer/information.html[/link]
    Following are health screenings often performed on breeding Miniature Schnauzer adults; choosing a puppy from a breeder who tests parents for health can help avoid future health problems in your puppy:

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    • Gold Top Dog
    No you're right. These dogs are known to have 7+ puppies a piece and she only breeds this type of dog.
     
    My point was - well I had a couple of them...you never really know what the dog will be like. It's important to pick the puppy based on personality rather than color (from the first post). And since she already made the committment to not get bogged down in the arguments here and start socializing that puppy asap.
     
    She's already getting the dog no matter what we say. We might as well help her with any problems that might arise.
    • Gold Top Dog
    If you couldn't go and visit and see the conditions for yourself then I'd be warning you against getting one of these dogs. But, as long as you can go make the judgement yourself then you make the call.

     
    This will sometimes backfire, because if you see bad conditions some folks get to feeling to sorry for the pup having to live there...they buy it anyways. IMO breeder visits are less valuable to find out about the puppy itself (which is a lot more difficult to do once you see the pups..the heart kicks in from there and it takes a steely person indeed to pass up a pup that's jumping on their shoelaces)...as what they tell you about the breeder and the standard they hold themselves and their breeding program to.
     
    I agree with your other post...what is done...or might be done is done. Like Ed also said...we're here...should the OP need us.

    • Gold Top Dog
    Alrighty guys...said and done. My parents said the place their is great. Very great. We are getting the 9 week old male pup. He is adorable and healthy. Dad said he is very playful.[:D]
    • Gold Top Dog
    Good luck with your parents new puppy![:D]
    • Silver
    What I find fishy is I dont see any where ont he site where they properly tests for genetic problems. I bet this is just a byb who thinks they know what they are doing is all fine. But I wouldnt buy from them. No dogs are (or atleast mentioned) geneticly tested of even shown to prove they are standard.  Glad you got what you wanted. I hope it doesnt turn out sad in the long run.
    • Gold Top Dog
    We are getting the 9 week old male pup.

    I am delighted to hear that your folks got a male instead of a female.  [sm=clapping%20hands%20smiley.gif]
     
    Please post some pictures soon.  Pretty please?
    • Gold Top Dog
    I am delighted to hear that your folks got a male instead of a female.  [sm=clapping%20hands%20smiley.gif]
     
    Please post some pictures soon.  Pretty please?

     
    Really? Why? What's the difference? I told dad male's are usually more compliant. Correct? Oh yes! Pictures are a must! Though I may pm them to you.. I don't want to hear any "byb" crud.[&:]