Obama's Pastor: XXX XXXX America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11

"Trashing the memory" of Natalee, how horrible is that?

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&pageId=45734

They hate everyone I guess...

http://www.capveterans.com/the_year_of_2008/id19.html

*yawn*

Is this pastor running for President or something?

So glad to know this, so I won't attend that church....

*well I don't attend any church, so nevermind*

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rwbeagles

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barack-obamas-racist-and-anti-semitic-church

No surprise here I guess.

http://blog.americancongressfortruth.com/2008/01/07/barack-obamas-racist-and-anti-semitic-church/

You forgot that he also preachs that the goverment created aids to get rid of black people and that the goverment imports the drugs to give to the poor so that they stay poor.

 I saw a clip of him preaching and I was shocked, I had no idea he was that radical.  Anyway it will not matter, most of the media will ignore it anyway or attempt to deflect by comparing McCain receiving endorsement from Hagee to Obama sitting in the pew under this guys teaching for 20 years.

rwbeagles

Is this pastor running for President or something?

So glad to know this, so I won't attend that church....

*well I don't attend any church, so nevermind*

I listened to this pastor's words......horrible....if a white person would utter these words and would be typed in with a presidential hopeful......it might not be the same ......sorry to say......if McCain had been going to a hating place that would offer up David Duke.....most people would have serious issues with that choice.....so.........it's not "Yawn" in my opinion and lot's of other folks......reversed racism has entered our minds......

snownose

if a white person would utter these words and would be typed in with a presidential hopeful......it might not be the same

No it would be exactly the same...they'd lose votes from people who assume they must surely agree with everything a person spouts off, because the they don't think for themselves, or take the wise and leave the unwise when they have a parent or mentor or best friend...so of course the people they judge must not either...so might Obama...so what's the difference?

He didn't lose my vote...me with my brown self...hispanic mother, black father...and white husband.

That's about all I have to say about that.

snownose

rwbeagles

Is this pastor running for President or something?

So glad to know this, so I won't attend that church....

*well I don't attend any church, so nevermind*

I listened to this pastor's words......horrible....if a white person would utter these words and would be typed in with a presidential hopeful......it might not be the same ......sorry to say......if McCain had been going to a hating place that would offer up David Duke.....most people would have serious issues with that choice.....so.........it's not "Yawn" in my opinion and lot's of other folks......reversed racism has entered our minds......

I just have to say that "reverese racism" doesn't exist. Racism is Racism. I hate that term. It doesn't make any sense. Is racism only reserved for whites? Anything that goes against the white power structure is therefore reverse?

I don't like starting these threads.  But when a poster is going to dig up trash against John McCain (adviser-crusade against Islam), well two can play that game.  You're going to see a lot of red-meat being thrown around by the media up until election day November.  It is very easy for people to dig up negativity on both sides and post.  When one side wants to post negativity, the other side likes to respond with negativity.  Unfortunately for Obama, I am sure there is a lot more red-meat on his side to sling around that on the McCain side.  Well, this election year will be quite interesting to say the least with all the red meat being tossed around in the media.  That's it, just making a statement there is a lot on both sides people can start to dig up, but I don't enjoy starting it to be honest.  Post all the negativity you want in regards to McCain, this is my one time backlash.  The media I'm sure will make sure we are all sick of it come November.

rwbeagles

snownose

if a white person would utter these words and would be typed in with a presidential hopeful......it might not be the same

No it would be exactly the same...they'd lose votes from people who assume they must surely agree with everything a person spouts off, because the they don't think for themselves, or take the wise and leave the unwise when they have a parent or mentor or best friend...so of course the people they judge must not either...so might Obama...so what's the difference?

He didn't lose my vote...me with my brown self...hispanic mother, black father...and white husband.

That's about all I have to say about that.

Don't you think the friends and mentors of a person gives one a picture of how said person feels or thinks?

Would you have a racist or a terrorist as a friend and expect folks to see you in the same light?

cc431

"Trashing the memory" of Natalee

I don't see how he "trashes" her memory or "disses" her. His statement: "One 18-year-old white girl from Alabama gets drunk on a graduation trip to Aruba, goes off and 'gives it up' while in a foreign country, and that stays in the news for months!"

In fact, she was 18, white, got very drunk (and there are many indications that she also used drugs), willingly had sex with at least one boy and it was in the news for months. Where's the "trashing"?

And the point he's making is that victims who are black women don't make the news.   

Black and White Women in the News
Runaway Bride (Jennifer Wilbanks)
Laci Peterson
Chandra Levy

Ever heard of Tamika Houston? 

Race and Class in the Media 

According to FBI statistics, African-Americans and other minorities make up a larger portion of missing victims than the media represents. However, cases like Huston's often get little attention.

As regards being to blame for 9/11, the 9/11 attacks were not justified, but they were understandable because of the imperialistic behavior of the United States toward middle eastern countries for over half a century. There is a huge amount of understandable anger on the part of the general population of those countries toward the US. A classic example of this imperialistic behavior was the CIA-sponsored overthrow of Mohammad Mosaddeq, the democratically-elected leader of Iran in the early 50s, because of his plans to nationalize the Iranian petroleum industry. Add to that, our propensity to prop up and support extremely oppressive regimes so we can get oil for cheap and our meddling in "free" elections, it is to me and many, not a huge surprise that somebody would get angry enough to do something serious enough to take the US down a notch.

And, I don't know about anyone else, but I see a big difference between a person bringing up racism in news coverage and suggesting that the US may have some responsibility for the way other countries feel about us (which is an opinion many people hold) and another saying that we need to make a preemptive strike that will bring on Armageddon... In my mind, there's a huge and important difference.