breeding moratorium

why do these good breeders keep breeding  if there are already too many unwanted dogs?

If good breeders hold back from breeding for this reason it leaves the market even wider open for unscrupulous people.  Educating people who want a purebred puppy to go to the right sources - and ensuring that those sources are available is our only hope currently of squeezing BYBs etc out of the market.
 
Edit to add:  Most "good" breeders are fully aware of the over population problem and do their best to offset their contribution to it by donating to shelters and many are actively involved in rescue... often for "their" breed.

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as a rescuer...here is my opinion...
good quality breeding is the only thing adding good quality genetics back into the available pool. Without good breeding the general health of dogs across the board would suffer in the long run.

I'm not trying to be rude but have you ever been to a dog show. I don't think you could get lab from your local shelter and enter it into a dog show matter fact I know you can't I think you should learn something about breeding show dogs before you put them all in the same classification yes we definitely have to many animals in shelters but I don't think you can find any champion or their offspring there  I don't know of any reputable breeders' that will not take their puppies or dog's back if someone can't keep them for any reason .it takes many years and a lot of dedication to their breed .I have a friend that brought the same way as you why breed dogs will we have so many unwanted pets. it is totally different I took her to a couple of dog shows and now she shows Scottish terriers very successfully she has finished 21 champions and now owns her own boarding kennel  I know sometimes we don't understand but you may want to Learn more about show dogs and reputable breeders

If you think about it, the perfect society would have dogs that were only bred on purpose for moral reasons from healthy parents and sold to owners who had done research and were prepared to keep the dog for its entire life. Just because there are homeless dogs, bad breeders, and bad owners out there doesn't mean the ideal breeding situation should be dissolved. Responsible breeders are part of the solution to overpopulation, not part of the problem.

I chose to get a purebred dog for several reasons. First, I live in an apartment (for now) and needed a small dog and a dog that was easily housetrained and not prone to accidents because I live on the second floor. Also, I admire spitz dogs and love the shiba inu personality. I know, I know, if I had looked hard enough I could have found all of those qualities in a shelter dog, and honestly, I would love to have adopted a shelter dog, but there's one final factor in my decision and that is my husband. He has told me he never wants to own a shelter dog because of the unpredictability of their characteristics. Health guarantees, support from a breeder, and knowing which problems to expect and how to deal with them are very important to him. Now, from my perspective, if would be MUCH more irresponsible to go out and get a dog that my husband wasn't comfortable living with.

Actually, this experience with my husband has taught me that some people really need that predictability in order to be able to live peacefully with their dogs and have a fulfilling relationship. It was hard for me to understand at first, because I would be happy living with almost any dog. My husband isn't like that. If he had Tojo without knowing how a typical shiba inu would act, he'd be very confused and frustrated because dealing with dogs doesn't come naturally to him. He loves dogs, but he really needs predictability in order to be happy with a dog. It's better for both of them. I think a lot of people are like that, and there's no reason why they shouldn't own a dog.

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I do have a problem with any breeding when there are so many dogs in shelters. I could never breed or buy a purebred dog from the most reputable breeder when so many lives need to be saved.  But that is my personal choice and not something I expect everyone to live by. 

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I chose not to breed *content removed* because of the over-population problem *content removed* But I'm done with adopting dogs of unknown parentage. Most of those dogs in the shelters and rescues came from puppy mills and BYBs. I personally think it's too risky in the health department to obtain dogs originally from those sources.  So I hope reputable, responsible breeders keep on plugging away trying their best to produce excellent dogs.

Should breeders stop breeding until the shelters are empty? No.

Why not? Because breeders who have a goal in mind and breed for a purpose will not find dogs in shelters that match those needs. And if good breeders stop breeding then some of the most desireable traits in a breed will be lost. Responsible breeding---with a goal in mind---should continue and MUST continue if we want to continue to have dog "breeds."

Should we do everything possible as individuals and as communities to encourage responsible breeding, spay or neuter programs and responsible dog ownership? Absolutely.

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In the end, it's not the responsible breeder's pups that end up in shelters. It just doesn't happen. And if, for some odd 0.001 chance it does happen, the dog is usually gone before it even smelled the nose of another dog, picked up by the breeder themselves or by an aquaintance of the breeder.
 
The responsible breeders are the ones keeping dogs as we know it alive today. Without them you wouldn't have your Schutzhund dogs, your pretty Poodles, and your hunting dogs, your Aussies. What you WOULD have, in just a few short years of letting the BYB's continue to breed, is a mish-mash of a generic dog, that over time would develop a generic type, size, and body, and even color. Because knowing nothing of genetics, by random breeding, the dog is bound to go back to its original roots in time, much like the village dogs do of many countries.
 
Many responsible breeders HAVE sent people to their respective breed rescue. I know we certainly have sent people to contact breed rescue for their dogs. And some responsible breeders RUN the breed rescue, helping all of those dogs from irresponsible eople.  So it's not like responsible breeders are just taking money and giving out pups.
 
I have nothing against shelter dogs or mixes. I love my Shih Tzu mix as much as I love any of my purebred breeding dogs. And I support what the shelters do. But I also support the purebred, responsible breeders who are striving to make a GOOD difference in the world of dogs.
 
In saying that, saying that the responsible breeders are unethical for continuing to breed, is, IMO, saying that we should all just rejoice now in celebrating the irresponsible breeders throughout the world. Let's start a campaign for "I support BYB's and puppy mills", because in effect that's what it is. Getting rid of the only people in the world with the dog's good health in mind, and everybody going to the shelter to adopt the local dogs that mated. And it STILL wouldn't stop those who breed irresponsibly from breeding, so what's the point?

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Glad you said it and I didnt

Even though this is OT..

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