Khoale was mauled

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    Khoale was mauled

     As some of you know I dog sled and run tours. My dog Khoale a Sibe I adopted last year lives with me, but also works with me for the kennel. Long story short, I allowed some of our new employees to take her on a team they were driving, they made a series of grave mistakes and Khoale wound up getting in the middle of two fighting Malamutes who should not have been running together. The vet I took her to is not my normal one, it's our kennel vet... very competent, used to be a military vet, but not as in depth as my normal vet when it comes to explaining. He called her leg insides, similar to ground beef.. the muscle was fully severed and he had to suture it together (by the knee) and she had sever tears and punctures on both sides of her thigh and inner thigh, and lower abdomen. He's so concerned about infection that I have permission to call him at home on Christmas if it swells. He left it with openings and the fluid is a constant stream. She screams every time she moves and I can't even support her with a sling because of the wounds on her inner thigh and belly. I've got her on antibiotics, tranquilizers and rimadyl. (yes I know metacam is better). Her gums/mouth is so hot right now. She may never pull/run again and I'm not quite sure if I'm s'posed to let her use it or not or what's going to happen, he's not the clearest of vets. She won't drink but is probably dehydrated at this point... should I shoot some gatorade into her mouth?

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    I've already talked to you on the phone, but mostly tonight she has to rest and get liquid inside of her.  As I said on the phone ... pull up a bit of skin between your thumb and forefinger on her neck and let go -- it should snap right back.  If it kind of stays tented and just 'slides' back down THEN she's dehydrated and MUST get liquid.

    Gatorade will work if you haven't got anything better -- but my choice would be Pedialyte or chammomile tea (or water, of course).

    Even if you have to keep her on liquids that's fine (she won't be able to strain to poop for a while so keep her diet pretty liquid until she can stand well and that could be a few days).

    Gosh I'm sorry -- holler if I can help more.

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     That is horrible! Poor thing. Are her gums sticky? If they are sticky then she is getting dehydrated. Do you have any chicken broth around? She may be enticed to drink that since it is smelly. Try giving her an ice cube to lick as well. You can give her some gatorade just be careful, you don't want to get it in her lungs. I don't have any other advice for you, sorry I can't help much.

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    OMG!  I'm so horrified & sorry about Koale.  How are YOU doing?  My immediate feeling is that you have to get some fluids in her ESPECIALLY if she's on Rimadyl.  However you can get fluids in her.  She can do without food for a little but but she has to have fluids.  However you can get her to drink SOMETHING.  I would think either an eyedropper or maybe even icecubes.

    FWIW, I asked my heart girl to watch over Khoale & help her stay strong.  Hang in there.  (((HUGS)))

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     That's awful - I fell so badly for her.  Poor girl.  When my old dog got dehydrated, my vet suggested using a little Pedialyte.  I also let her chew shaved ice.  You might try boiling some beef in a pot of water, let the water cool and let her drink that.  If it were me, I would use a dosing syringe and push fluids - JMO.

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     I don't have any extra advice, I just wanted to say, I'm sorry and I hope she is feeling better soon.

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    Poor Khoale!  I sure hope you can keep infection away.

    Nutri-Cal paste is a nutrient dense paste that you can use to get some nutrition into her.

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    • Berte's Immune Blend (link) - a medicinal mix of essential vitamins, digestive enzymes, probiotics and liver powder for palatability
    • Berte's Ultra Probiotic Powder (link) - contains a mix of beneficial bacteria as a digestion aid (give 2-3 hours after antibiotics)

    Colloidal silver (link) can be taken internally to help prevent infection.  It can be sprayed onto wounds externally.

    EMT spray (link) (retail and online dealers) - acts as a tissue adhesive, helps to prevent bacterial infection and reduces the potential of scarring.  (also available as a gel)

    An article on post-op care.

    Get well soon, Khoale!

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    Thanks everyone for the suggestions and well wishes.

    I gave her the acepromazine which greatly calmed her... she was panicked from teh pain. She's VERY anxious to begin with.

    I've gotten a few quirts of gatorade and water down and some duck broth from the duck slow cooker meal I made the others... she wasn't interested in kibble, but took some duck liquid. She's resting now...

    I do feel so bad for her especially since this was preventable... there are a few people that a getting fired over this literally and the kennel is paying my costs, but it doesn't make it better. 

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    outdoorschik
    she wasn't interested in kibble

    If you wind up having to coax her to eat, try canned jack mackerel (grocery store) or canned green cow tripe (Solid Gold or Tripett).

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    To prevent stomach problems from meds, you might consider using slippery elm bark (health food store).  You might not need as much as Dr. Pitcairn recommends for diarrhea (below).  Slippery elm is also very nutritious.

    Here is Dr. Pitcairn's recipe for using slippery elm bark for diarrhea, from his book, Dr. Pitcairn's New Complete Guide to Natural Health for Dogs & Cats:

    Thoroughly mix 1 slightly rounded teaspoon of slippery elm powder with 1 cup of cold water. Bring to a boil while stirring constantly. Then turn the heat down to simmer and continue to stir for another 2 to 3 minutes while the mixture thickens slightly. Remove from the heat, add 1 tablespoon of honey (for dogs only -- cats don't like sweets, so leave it out), and stir well. Cool to room temperature and give 1/2 to 1 teaspoon to cats and small dogs (under 20 lbs), 2 teaspoons to 2 tablespoons for medium dogs (20 - 40 lbs), and 3 to 4 tablespoons for large dogs (over 40lbs). Give this dose 4 times a day, or about every 4 hours. Cover the mixture and store at room temperature. It will keep for a couple of days.
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    Sending good wishes for a speedy recovery!...Jody

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    I hope she rests as comfortably as can be and heals quickly.  One way I got my sick terrier to take liquid was to put a spoonful of chicken broth on his front paws because he would not lap it from a bowl.  He would lick his paws as he always does when his feet are wet.  It worked.  It was the first thing I tried when he wouldn't drink anything. 

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    • Gold Top Dog

     Just posting to say I am soo sorry

    I will have you both in my prayers - no infection, willing to take fluids and as comfortable and swift healing as possible.

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    Poor Khoale! I don't have any advice to add. That's just terrible, for her. I hope that she's feeling more relaxed, now that she's got some broth and medicine in her, and that she heals quickly.

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    I'm so sorry!! I wish I could help you more, but everybody already gave a lot of good tips. Khoale and you'll be in my prayers.