How Big of a Dog can a Coyotee run away with?

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    How Big of a Dog can a Coyotee run away with?

    How Big of a Dog can a Coyotee run away with?

    I saw on the News that Coyotee's are taking pets from right infront of there owners, and running away with them. 

     

    I have a 15 Lb dog and i want to know if a coyotee can take it can run away with it when i am walking her 

     

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    I have a 15 Lb dog and i want to know if a coyotee can take it can run away with it when i am walking her 

    I don't think a large, male coyote would have any trouble taking a 15lb dog. 

    If I were you, I would use a strong harness to walk my dog and I would put a wide leather collar on the dog to protect its throat.

    I would carry pepper spray and a walking stick.  Walking with a friend who has a big dog would also be a good idea.

    NOTE:  Anyone who carries pepper spray should be familiar with the antidotes:
    http://community.dog.com/forums/p/7289/25305.aspx

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    do coyotees bite the neck and if so would a spiked collar block from from carrying the dog away

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    what time of the day to Coyotees usally do there hunting? Dusk? Night? Morning?

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    A leashed dog close to your body is quite saffe, adding a walking stick or push button umbrella (unexpected openning is a very effective deterant) will improve it even more.  Most dogs taken are off lead, and folks around are not quick enough to prevent it.  Coyotes are looking for easy meals, not tethered to a human, defended meals.  Off lead in the backyard pottying would be more of a risk in my mind, especially if you have garden plantings and shrubs to provide cover. 

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     In the Chicago area there was a report a few years ago where a pair of adult weims were attacked by coyotes.  They survived but still--it's a little spooky that they'd take on 2 large dogs like that.

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    How Big of a Dog can a Coyotee run away with?

    I saw on the News that Coyotee's are taking pets from right infront of there owners, and running away with them. 

    I have a 15 Lb dog and i want to know if a coyotee can take it can run away with it when i am walking her 

    I would keep the dog on a leash and keep her close to you---no super long flexis.

    In my experience, a single coyote doesn't snatch and grab a dog on the run. Coyotes hunt in packs and they would tend to attack and kill something and then carry it off. Of course, if startled in the act they would snatch their prey up and run with it---but they don't dart in, snatch and keep running. I have known folks who have encountered coyotes while walking their dogs and they have driven them off by yelling, screaming, waving their arms and charging at them.

    IF A SINGLE COYOTE ATTACKS IN BROAD DAYLIGHT OR IF THERE IS ANY CHANCE  IT IS RABID GET THE HECK AWAY AND DON'T CHARGE. YOUR DOG HAS BEEN VACCINATED FOR RABIES---YOU HAVEN'T---AND RABID ANIMALS ARE UNPREDICTABLE AND DON'T STOP ATTACKING BECAUSE THEY ARE HURT OR AFRAID. Three people in a nearby town were attacked by a rabid coyote. The family dog started fighting with it (drawing it away from the mom) and the fight only ended when the mom beat the thing to death with a shovel.

    In general, a dog tied in a yard is in far greater danger. I knew an older dog that was killed while tied by a dog house in the backyard. The other dog raised a racket and when the owner got outside the coyotes had dragged the dog's body into the woods. This was a good sized dog. Remember: coyotes can kill a deer.

    If attacking dogs is a new thing in your area it could be because the usual food source is harder to get----which means when that situation changes the threat to dogs will diminish. (One winter we had very little snow on the ground and the coyotes couldn't catch their traditional prey so they started killing dogs. We got a ton of snow and the coyotes stopped being a problem.)

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    this video is what got me thinking about this

     

    http://video.aol.com/video-detail/placentia-neighborhood-besieged-by-coyotes/1590162401

     

    i wonder if a spiked collar could stop an attack?

     

    it migh be cool if they made something the sprayed pepper spray when it is bit and the dog could wear it like a harness. 

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    We have a lot of coyotes around here and numerous missing dogs and cats. Most are small, but a neighbor did find a paw that looked like it came from a rott. A good friend lost a neopolitian mastiff to coyotes. She was taken out by a large pack and she took two with her but died shortly after he found her from injuries received.

    They come up to my fence and sit and watch the dogs, they do not seem to have much fear of them and even of me as I have to throw rocks at them before they get up and leave, and even then it is not at a dead run.

    Hektor almost got one the other day. We were walking down an arroyo, Gunnar and I were down in it and the bank to our right was about 5 or 6 feet steep. Hektor was up top and I was just getting ready to call him when Gunnar barked and I looked up and saw a large coyote at the top of the embankment standing and watching us. I reached down and grabbed Gunnar's collar and about the same time Hektor rammed into the coyote at full speed and knocked himself and the coyote off the embankment. When they hit the ground (right in front of Gunnar and I) the coyote took off fast and Hektor could not catch him again.

     I have seen them try and entice the dogs out, one coyote will run off to the side acting playful, if the dogs go after him (more often it is a her) then the rest will join in from where they were waiting and attack the dog. I worry about Gunnar as he is playful, I do not worry so much about Hektor as he hates them with a passion. I think it is because they tease them from behind the fence.

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    We had a sheltie disappear once when I was a child. It is my understanding that they lure the dogs into the bush and as a pack kill/feast on an animal.

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    How big of a fence can a Coyote Jump?

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    do coyotees bite the neck and if so would a spiked collar block from from carrying the dog away

    what time of the day to Coyotees usally do there hunting? Dusk? Night? Morning?

    A common way for canines to kill small prey is to grab the animal by the head or neck and to shake to break the neck.  For larger prey coyotes would try to do things like

    • hamstring the animal,
    • roll and disembowel the animal,
    • weaken the animal with multiple bites,  
    • go for the throat.

    A spiked collar might help protect an animal, but where are you going to get a light-weight, strong, spiked collar for a small dog?  I would go for thick leather. 

    The image of a chihuahua walking around with a collar with just 1" or 2" spikes is hilarious. Big Smile

    Coyotes hunt both day and night.

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    In my experience, a single coyote doesn't snatch and grab a dog on the run.

    I agree, but it has happened even when the small dog is on a leash.  In such a situation I would expect the coyote to be either desperate, weak from illness, or sick with rabies.

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    How big of a fence can a Coyote Jump?

    I assume you mean "get over" rather than "jump".  I would want an 8' solid wood fence.

    A 6' solid fence may not stop them and they have been known to climb 10' chain link fences.

    This is an interesting product for allowing a shorter fence:  http://coyoteroller.com/home   It is a fence topper that prevents them from getting a grip on the top of the fence.

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    Rabid animals don't get scared or hurt, that's why they're so scary and dangerous. When I was in Mexico we had a rabid fox walk into our small kitchen with us. All the shouting and screaming and banging with sticks in the world did not reach that fox. He walked back out of his own volition about a minute after walking in, but he didn't even seem to register our existence, despite the unholy noise we were making. Rabid animals are just sick in the head. They don't act right, but the window where they go ballistic and start attacking is relatively small, I think. We have bat rabies in this country, and a lot of them don't even go through that stage. They just get paralysis. So I reckon any coyote or fox or other rabies carrier acting weird is enough of a reason to keep away from it.
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    Our neighbor has two great danes, and he was walking with them in the hills out here, and the coyotes tried to take them, using the lure-away method. The owner was able to call his dogs back, but if he hadn't, the coyotes probably would have had no problem with the two dogs. (Of course, this wasn't on a flat area; the coyote was leading the danes into a little cleft between two hills so that the rest of them could come down the sides. They're really smart.) We have a six foot retaining wall, and they have no problem scaling that, but they won't jump down into our dog run while there are two dogs in there. They prefer to draw the dog out and get it into their zone.

     

    I wouldn't worry about coyotes while I had my dog on a short leash, though. Healthy coyotes don't usually like getting that close to people.