Animal Communicators

    • Gold Top Dog

    I had someone tell me that their sister charges money to communicate with animals over the phone. I think that's a load of crap.


    However, since that thread a few months ago, I've realized a big part of what's going on in my head, and it's changed a lot of things.

     

    One of the things it's changed is how quickly my own dogs learn things. One pain in the butt thing it's done.... Emma and I are communicating very clearly, now. She "reads" the rally signs. It can be a problem, because I haven't got my thoughts together and it confuses her.

     

    It's also changed how I groom, and how I handle dogs at work. I've had a few dogs try to stay with me. One went as far as leaping over the half door to come back to me. That made me sad.

     


    Another reason to love i-dogWink 

    • Gold Top Dog

    Iv had great luck with Lydia Hiby over the years.... Lydia Hiby: Animal Communicator

    She has helped me with many issues with my dogs and she has always been right on and she is very fast when reading. When I call I make sure I have my questions ready and a pen and paper in hand to write notes.

     I had a lady come to my house a year ago and within 10 min's I so wanted her to leave...LOL I could tell she didn't have what it took like Lydia did .... It was hard to sit and wait for her to mediate with my dog or dogs or whatever she was doing...LOL Now if this had been my first experience I probably wouldn't be open to it and very sceptical. But since dealing with Lydia over the past 8 years and reading her book its hard not to believe what she is communicating cause she has always been right on about my dogs and alot of Rescue dogs I got in to foster. I so needed help with their medical conditions or just helping their state of mind coming out of a puppymill.

     So Im all for them or should I say Lydia..... I look at it like this... Its like shopping .. you pick and choose what you know to be right or feel is right when talking to them. Kinda like going to the store. You don't buy everything you pick and choose what you need or know will work.

     Kim

    • Gold Top Dog

    So what exactly defines an "animal communicator" as opposed to someone who's simply an "animal person" and is good at communicating with their animals with voice tone, body language, and observational skills? Does an "animal communicator" by definition have to be able to "communicate" (in the afore-described way) with animals of all species, or is enough to be gifted with one species or even one animal?

    It's hard for me to accept the concept of an "animal psychic" as the popular media envisions it ("I know what you're thinking" "I'm sending you my thoughts" "I come in peace" sort of deal) because I don't believe that animals think in the same way we do. Even if we were able to do some sort of mind meld with our animals I think it would be extremely difficult to break down the cognitive barriers to inter-species communication.

    I'm much more inclined to believe that some individuals are particularly gifted in their ability to read and demonstrate those "imperceptible" signals that are the trademark of the non-human world - a muscle tensed here, a blink there... similarly, I think that if we humans are "together" enough and sensitive enough we can give decipherable signals to our animals even without consciously intending to do so. So when we say "it's okay, I won't hurt you" in some way we're demonstrating our peaceful intentions in a way the animal can understand - I do believe our internal states can be read externally by creatures that are perceptive enough. I do believe that some people are more sincere/focused/something than others and thus can project clearer signals to those they are trying to communicate with. So does that count as being an "animal comunicator"? Is it enough to be extremely gifted with body language and non-verbal signs, or does there have to be some sort of almost mystical psychic element involved?

    Disclaimer: I'm also a scientist, and I believe that most (all?) phenomena has a concrete origin and explanation, even if said explanation is so far beyond our comprehension that we could never understand it. I'm a "God isn't a distinct entity but rather the power that drives the system of the universe" kind of person.

    • Gold Top Dog

    I only have a few minutes to post, so I'll get to the majority of these responses in depth tomorrow morning. Some WONDERFUL points have been made, and I'll address them all as soon as I have time to really sit down and type.

     

    I just want to say quickly, that I'm *not* talking about reading body language here. Telepathic communication can be done over large distances. I've spoken to people's animals over the phone, through e-mail, etc- animals that I have never met before, whom I know nothing about other than a physical desciption. through doing this, it is possible to learn an animal's entire background- down to the name of the street it lived on, names of former caregivers, complete descriptions of what the inside of their home looks like, etc- and these things have been verified. These are not things that can be discerned simply through reading body language. It is possible to have very in depth, spiritual discussions with animals. They know more than we give them credit for. Wink

    Yes, they DO think differently from us. Most animals send images, colors, smells, feelings, etc- that you then have to piece together something coherent. Some animals DO speak in words, or send at least *some* words. It just depends on the animal. It does take a certain metnal shift to understand it, but it's not as hard as you would think.

    It's okay to be skeptical. Skeptecism is a good thing, and the idea that animals are spiritual beings that can communicate telepthically with their owners across great distances just doesn't fit into most people's paradigms. That's fine- this isn't for everyone, and there's nothing wrong with that.

    But again, I'll try to address these things in depth tomorrow when I actually have time to sit down and write- for now, I just wanted to pop in and say that "Being really good at reading body language" is not what we're talking about here. We're talking about actual telepathic communication on a spiritual level. Smile

    • Gold Top Dog

    Huh?  Janet I am not exactly sure what you are talking about ?  Seems rather silly. It is a Title therefore considered a noun in this situation and there are many types of Communicators, from the observant trainer , to the psychic to the frauds.  So as far as I am concerned it is a correct tag.

    How would it affect you making it necessary to change it? I don't mind,  I simply don't understand why?

    Bonita of Bwana

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    I totally understand your point. On our breedlist people have been contributing thier experince with this subject and it has been fascinating. Many believe the Communicator carried on a dialogue with thier dog  offer details like " A large woman waved her hands at me so I don't like the front yard"  HUH?  The poster swore her neighbor is a large over powering personality who talks with her hands,,,  Then another said " The Communicator confided that our dog did not like his name (Chaos) so we had her ask what he wanted to be called and he "said" Chase.". .Hmmmm  Little hard to follow sometimes but then people posted about the Communicator  explaining the dog didn't like the type of collar they had on her,  ( she was a young girl and teething in our breed the glands are often involved and tender)  They switched collars and she no longer pulls and balks when they go for a walk.   Of course yet another Communicator told an elaborate story about the dog's previous home and how badly it had been treated, that it was so happy to be in the new home with the small brown fuzzy cat.... ( they were the breeders, no other owners and no cats on thier property)  Some may be intution, others skilled observation but some of the stories shared seemed well just goofy!

    I know I carry on conversations  with my dogs, no  I don't hear them speaking to me in Human speak but I honestly have images in my mind as we talk... Is it because I am really creative and they should up my meds? or is it as simple as the bond we share allows me this method of understanding?  Some animals I get nothing from, nada, zip so I do wonder... ?  I have worked with Autistic Children and they frequently made a connection with my hounds that excluded the adults in the room. Sharing stares, sighs and shifting weight in harmony.. I never doubted my dogs had connected.  Even if I could not.  I do find this fascinating and only ask every one to keep an open mind as they read along.

    • Gold Top Dog

    Brit I completely agree -- however, I DO think that often body language is part of the complete package.  (and it's often what the phoneys are simply relying on)

    But definitely this IS something that can be done over a distance.  There's a book "Pets Who Know When Their Owners are Coming Home" ... and David and I have 'tested' this (with some pretty fun results) more than once. 

    I'll insert here that I truly think one of the reasons it's easier (and often less 'phoney';) to do this with your dog, than from human to human is simply because they (the animals) are more accepting and they don't have to analyze a thing into oblivion. 

     But also -- dogs definitely tend to use "frames" or pictures more than words.  Like I'd know when Foxy was "thirsty" not because he'd say the 'word' to me -- but rather because I'd suddenly BE thirsty for a moment or 'see' a picture of the nearest water source to him -- like the water bottle in my purse or the tap next to me in the bathtub!!

    • Gold Top Dog

    Distance, sure. Over the phone after you've given your credit card number? Not so much. That's exploitation, at a minimum. More likely fraud. Anybody can talk to their dog. It's not a special power. Of course, I charge money for clipping toenails, and anybody can do that. I'm more than willing to show them how, though, because I believe that nail trimming is important for a dog's health. I dunno. I just find it.... distasteful.

     

    Emma's told me she had to pee, while I was at work. I called somebody to go let her out, and she peed a river. She's told me that her back hurts, or that she's cold, or that somebody knocked on the door, LOL. I feel privileged to have such a cool relationship with my dog. Some dogs, I do not communicate nearly as clearly with as others. Teenie, for example, barely functions, much less communicate. She is getting better, but it's nothing like what Em does.

    • Gold Top Dog

    Okay...

     For those who are skeptical....  I understand.... But when readings like this.................example below...

     When I called Lydia to talk to her about some issues with my Scottie and I gave her NO details about Max what so ever. I just gave his name and his age. She told me exactly his situation in how he lived by talking to him this is before I owned him. He is a Rescue and I already knew his situation and I didn't say a word of how he lived and how he was rescued. Lydia asked Max and he told her... HE TOLD HER EXACTLY everything I already new. Now how can you be Skeptical over that? She helped me by suggesting Bach flower essence and some other natural suppliments like Slippery Elm for his IBD and it helped this dog!!! Even the Valeran she told me to use to slow down his digestive system and help with his evening anxiety helped so much etc.... She HELPED him SO much as he was so sick more than the specialist could tell me to do for him. The only things I needed help with was his excessive panting that would start in the later day... and I needed to know were this anxiety was coming from. Once she told me... again it all added up and then I could work on it by making some changes.... It was how he was rescued and what went on when it started to get dark out. What she told me again was right on.....

     My Mom was a huge skeptic... It took me months to get her to call about her Schnauzer.... She just didn't care to do it or believe it but was still curious... Well after talking to Lydia she was a believer...LOL

    When Lydia told my Mom he had been shot at.... Well............ she was right this dog still have a lot of buck shot pellets under his skin and my Mom didn't tell Lydia a word of that.... Just another example....

     Im not trying to talking anyone into believe anything or to even use a communicator... Im simply sharing my positive experiences that I  have had.

     And sure there are times I talk to Lydia and think.. .Yea right....LOL but who am I to say .... she is probably right on and Im the one missing out casue I don't believe what she said about one of my dogs.... LOL

     Kim

    • Gold Top Dog

    This is a wild subject~  Speaking of wild, can you communicate with animals like bunnies on your lawn or birds?  My old husky I think did with the gray squirrels.  They used to come up to him a lot and he never made any noise.  In fact there was one squirrel that came on the porch and just hung out there while I was there and I actually pat his long gray fuzzy tail!    Also, we had a "flying squirrel" get into the house, and he was found sitting in the dogs dish eating his food!  It was soo funny when my eldest boy came in the living room and just stated it as if this sort of thing happened everyday...That was an adorable little squirrel too.

    • Gold Top Dog

    I'm open to the idea, but very skeptical of people who claim they can telepathically talk to animals.  I guess my issue is I haven't seen any real hardcore proof.  For instance, I would love to see an animal communicator have a dog of their choosing perform basic commands using only their mind.  To insure that of course the two would need to be blocked from eachother's vision, although since so many say they can do it over long distance that should be no problem in placing them in seperate rooms.  If an animal and person can telepathically communicate than asking it to do simple comands it already knows for treats would seem like an easy way to prove it.

     Another thing I would like to know is if two so called animal communicators can telepathically communicate with eachother.  One would think that would be a piece of cake for two who commonly talk outside their species.

    Hmm would be interesting to have a animal communicator come talk to my praying mantises one day.  My mantises seem like they would be the most open of my animals to some mind chatting with strangers.  Oh which raises a question to those here saying they can link mind with animals, have you ever done so with an insect?

    • Gold Top Dog

    Well Lydia lives in California and IM in Missouri and this is all done over the phone....

    If its a rescue dog that is new to  your home she wants a picture of it sent in before the reading.... But if the dog has been with you for a long while she doesn't need a pic. She talks about this in her book which I loved reading and how this all came to her when she was younger and she also talks about when being a vet tech and how the animals communicated with her.... I love the stories and some make me sad.... I think one was of a cat that was getting ready to be put to sleep and the owners didn't stay.... :( I won't quote anymore cause I don't have the book here and Its been awhile since reading it.... but she use to think to herself.... who's talking to me were is that coming from?? Meaning a dog or cat saying something and communicating to her that they were scared or something other at the clinic... I know she works with Horses A Lot.....

     Im very open to her... but like I said before I had one come to the house and it was all I could do not to say within 5 min's you can leave now...LOL

    • Gold Top Dog

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    • Gold Top Dog

    I have tried to keep an open mind when considering the legitimacy of animal communicators. I had an experience yesterday, that has led me to believe that animal communicators are fraudulent, & seeking only money, or affirming their feelings of self importance.

    I helped out at a pet festival yesterday. I was volunteering at the dobe rescue booth, when a well known animal communicator came to our booth. She offered her “services” to one of our rescue dogs. I declined, as both of the rescues that were in attendance were out on walks. Bevo was with me to do “Meet the Breed” and was sitting with me. She decided that she would do a “reading” on Bevo, even after I had informed her that Bevo was my personal dog.

    She informed me that Bevo had not been in rescue very long, 3-4 weeks at the most. (Bevo has lived with me for over 4 years.) She claimed that Bevo was still adjusting to being fed on a daily basis, because his previous owner only fed him every other day. (Bevo has eaten 2-3 times a day for the past 4 years.) Lastly, she announced that the “scars” on Bevo’s nose were the result of abuse from his previous owner. (Bevo is OCD. He compulsively straightens things with his nose. He swiped Shooter’s blanket a couple of weeks ago, & straightened it until his nose bled. His nose is healing well, but is still light colored.)

    I felt like I had to inform her that Bevo is, apparently, a compulsive liar, because none of her facts were correct.  She just shrugged her shoulders & said "Well that's what he told me."

    At this point, I believe that animal communicators are frauds. They are doing no more than selling “woo” to those who are willing to believe it.

    • Gold Top Dog

    calliecritturs

    Chuffy, incidentally -- it's already easy to see that most babies and their Mom's HAVE a communicative sense -- it's how you can have 10 babies in a church nursery, and a whole church full of folks listening to a service, and suddenly ONE of those ten babies will begin to cry & scream, and that ONE mother will nearly invariably get up to go to the nursery without being called.  why?  Because her own body's response to her child's distress will likely cause her milk to drop.   I've seen it MANY, many times. 

    The sound of a baby crying triggers the hormone which starts your let-down.  I know this because I have been at other people's houses and their baby has started crying and I have been cursed with wet headlamps for the rest of the day.

    I do think there is "something to this" though.  And I do think it goes beyond just science and hormones and what have you.  Maybe I am thinking about something totally different, but there's been times I have asked William (out loud)  "What is the matter?  Why are you shouting at me?  Tell me what the matter is and I will try to make it right."  And I try to, oh I don't know.... not be closed to his answer is the best way I can think of to describe it.  I try to LISTEN - with every sense. And then somehow, I know what to do.  Initially, it didn;t work - I think we are taught not to listen to our instincts and we are convinced early on that such communication is not possible.  And I felt a bit incompetent... new mum, not much confidence etc etc.  Now its different... and we are closer too, we have a stronger bond now.  I think that makes it easier.  I don't know if this is the same as what you mean.... whether this would work on other babies, people, animals if only I tried..... but I suspect that in most cases, probably not.  Because it is a two way thing.....??