heard of a new "breed" today

ORIGINAL: debv53

Did anyone watch Ellen yesterday, she just bought a yorkiepoo.
And was rattling on about all the designer breeds but calling them new breeds, she is clueless.

That's just sad. She really is clueless... for her to call the "Yorkiepoo" a new breed and support that is awful. I think celebrities have even more responsibility to do the right thing because they're an example for so many people. And look at the examples we have- Paris Hilton with her pet of the week, Jessica Simpson (with her "Maltipoo"), and people like that. [&o]

ORIGINAL: Luvntzus
That's just sad. She really is clueless... for her to call the "Yorkiepoo" a new breed and support that is awful. I think celebrities have even more responsibility to do the right thing because they're an example for so many people. And look at the examples we have- Paris Hilton with her pet of the week, Jessica Simpson (with her "Maltipoo"), and people like that. [&o]

I always liked Bob Barker's theory on pets.  Save a shelter dog and spay and neuter your pets
 

ORIGINAL: heidandseek

I always liked Bob Barker's theory on pets.  Save a shelter dog and spay and neuter your pets

That's true! He completely slipped my mind, but he was actually a positive example and encouraged people to do the right thing. []

You never really know people, so you don't know if the puppies or dogs are going to good homes. People can put on an act or if you go to visit the dog or see the pictures they show you, it could just be a snapshot. You never know. If the breeder of these designer dogs take the time and effort like the orignal breeds that are being bred, why get bent out of shape? Maybe it would even bring up the view of value of the same mixed dogs in the shelter.Like someone would be like hey that's a pug/beagle mix and I can get him a lot cheaper here and rescue him. Know what I'm saying?

ORIGINAL: meilani

Actually, there's a reason that Dachshunds were bred to have an elongated body. It's because they were bred for badger hunting. Badgers live in underground tunnels/holes and they needed a dog that could easily get into a tunnel to chase out a badger.

Chuffy already answered this

With that said, if one isn't concerned about conformation, health testing and other things that go into responsible breeding then you might as well save your money and adopt a dog from a shelter(and yes, you can find little dogs in shelters or rescues. There's LOTS of them listed on [linkhttp://www.petfinder.com]Petfinder[/link]. Yeah, they may not be a block away but if you really want one, you can get one even if you have to travel). I feel that way regardless if the dog is purebreed or mixed.

I never said I'm not concerned with health testing.  Don't where you came up with that one.  And like I said we do not have an abundance of little dogs here.  I searched and searched for three years until I finally found mine.  Yes I looked at the shelters, rescues, petfinder, papers, etc.  I really don't want to go into that again since I fully explained this in another thread.

ORIGINAL: Luvntzus

ORIGINAL: fuzzdomestic

It's almost amazing how stupid people can be.  I saw a picture of a "Sharpett" the other day.  It's a Bassett with a Shar-pei.

That has got to be one of THE worst mixes I've ever heard of. [] What a genetic nightmare- both with health issues and the combination of the two breed's temperaments does not seem like a good one. [&o]

 
I've seen a Rott/Bassett mix.  This thing was truly an abomination.  I was horrified.  It was as big as a Rott, but had the legs of a Bassett.  The skin and pads on its feet were so loose, that it was practically tripping over itself.  It was overweight,and its stomach dipped down and touched the ground!  It had feces smeared all over its rear end, because it was unable to squat in any way to defecate.  As I and the people I was with stared, with our jaws on the ground, the owner made little jokes about her lazy fat dog, and then dragged it away.  I couldn't even respond to the woman.  It was all too much to take in.  oor, poor dog.   

ORIGINAL: heidandseek

ORIGINAL: Lilea
You assume too much.  

You are the one that is assuming every pup born is purchased.  They definitely are not... so that was the point of my hypothetical.  What happens to those pups that aren't sold?

No, you are assuming too much again.  You think you can read my mind I guess.  I never said I support all the irresponsible byb out there.  I don't think you are really listening to what I'm saying at all.  I never said I believe that every single puppy ever born is purchased and goes to a loving home.   

ORIGINAL: Lilea
My dogs siblings were all purchased and hopefully went to loving homes.

HOPEFULLY?  a good breeder does the research and calls references to insure the best home possible for their pups.  Do they always succeed? No nothing in this world is ever without failure but those pups will stand a much better chance.

  Yes, exactly, HOPEFULLY.  Like I said, I do not know the man who bred them so how can I assume to know if he is responsible or not, so obviously I HOPE he is.

The whole point of this discussion with you imo, was to help you open your eyes with your heart.  It is not happening...you have dug in your heels.

Not true, my mind is completely open.  Is yours?

  It is the thinking of people like you, that keep encouraging byb's whether it is a breeder of purebreds or mutts. 

People like me?  What am I like exactly?  I think you are being a bit too judgemental, you obviously don't know how I feel about this at all and are misinterpretting my posts or just filling in whatever you dont understand with negatives.
  

I would suggest you go visit your local kill shelter and look in those dogs eyes and tell them that their breeders had every right to breed their parents....

I visit my local kill shelter on regular basis, but I don't know why you think I'm pro everyone and her sister breeding all the dogs they pump out.  I never said that.  Don't know why you are being so negative and assuming the worst.

ORIGINAL: Aery

All of the explinations here are awesome. However, I don't think Lilea cares very much.

Sometimes, the views of people cannot be changed.[&o]
No matter how many facts are presented.

Thats not very nice.  I thought we were having a friendly debate, not throwing insults.   

ORIGINAL: heidandseek
I always liked Bob Barker's theory on pets.  Save a shelter dog and spay and neuter your pets

ME too )  I have always loved how he says that at the end of every show.

ORIGINAL: Lilea
I never said I'm not concerned with health testing.  Don't where you came up with that one.  And like I said we do not have an abundance of little dogs here.  I searched and searched for three years until I finally found mine.  Yes I looked at the shelters, rescues, petfinder, papers, etc.  I really don't want to go into that again since I fully explained this in another thread.

Lilea
Do  you honestly believe the parents of your dog were tested?  I highly doubt it. Byb's generally do not test their dogs, a responsile breeder always will and  they never sell to a broker or a pet store. 
I have spent a lot of time on Petfinder.  I really do not believe they do not have a little dog in your area.  Where do you live?  General region.  I live in the boonies and my kill shelter is always loaded with little dogs as well as big.  Today they have a purebred scotty.  Three years old, spayed utd on vacs.  given up because her owner is having a baby ~slaps forehead~
I bet I can search your area and have a little breed dog of any age for you to look at within 10 minutes.

ORIGINAL: Ihearthuskybutts

ORIGINAL: Luvntzus

ORIGINAL: fuzzdomestic

It's almost amazing how stupid people can be.  I saw a picture of a "Sharpett" the other day.  It's a Bassett with a Shar-pei.

That has got to be one of THE worst mixes I've ever heard of. [] What a genetic nightmare- both with health issues and the combination of the two breed's temperaments does not seem like a good one. [&o]

I've seen a Rott/Bassett mix.  This thing was truly an abomination.  I was horrified.  It was as big as a Rott, but had the legs of a Bassett.  The skin and pads on its feet were so loose, that it was practically tripping over itself.  It was overweight,and its stomach dipped down and touched the ground!  It had feces smeared all over its rear end, because it was unable to squat in any way to defecate.  As I and the people I was with stared, with our jaws on the ground, the owner made little jokes about her lazy fat dog, and then dragged it away.  I couldn't even respond to the woman.  It was all too much to take in.  oor, poor dog.   

That is really really sad.
And I love your user name.

ORIGINAL: Lilea

Chuffy already answered this

 
Yes, I've read Chuffy's answer. That doesn't change the fact that the breed was bred for a purpose and it's an actual breed that has bred true for many years.
 

I never said I'm not concerned with health testing.  Don't where you came up with that one.

 
My post was a collective post. It wasn't directed at you specifically.
 

And like I said we do not have an abundance of little dogs here.  I searched and searched for three years until I finally found mine.  Yes I looked at the shelters, rescues, petfinder, papers, etc.  I really don't want to go into that again since I fully explained this in another thread.

 
I find it rather hard to believe that in 3 years there weren't any small dogs in any shelters/rescues. While I can believe that there may not have been any in your local shelter/rescue, that doesn't mean you couldn't have traveled to go get one. A lot of people travel to get a dog. I travelled all the way from Chicago to Massachusetts to get one of my dogs.
 
In the end, the reality is the majority of "designer dogs" are bred for one purpose and that's to make money. A lot of these designer dogs are being sold at a price that's higher than a show quality purebreed dog and a lot of times, these dogs are a lower quality. So people are paying big bucks for poor quality dogs. For some unknown reason, they seem to think there's a difference between the $1500 F1 cross Labradoodle(whose had no health testing done and comes from parents who've also had no health testing done and come from poor pedigrees) and the $75 Labrador/Poodle sitting in a shelter/rescue.
 
While I believe that there are responsible designer dog breeders out there, they are in the minority. In fact, there are a few breeds in the works as we speak. They are the Silken Windhound, Alaskan Klee Kai and a few others. The thing is, you really don't hear about them. Why? Because those breeders are more concerned about creating a new breed and they're concerned about the welfare of the breed as opposed to churning out poorly bred dogs for big bucks.
 
If anyone is interested in a designer dog and is considering purchasing one from a breeder, check out my [linkhttp://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=124633686&blogID=220266737&MyToken=7e68f45f-fa79-40e5-890b-821257fc924d]designer dog guide[/link]. 

I have seen alot of Saint Bernards in the petfinder but I still want to buy a puppy from a breeder in the future. It's ju[color="#660066"]st what I rather do, even though  I suggest people adopt b/c it could be for them. (kinda g[color="#990000"]etting off subject sorry)[/color][/color]

ORIGINAL: Eclipse

I have seen alot of Saint Bernards in the petfinder but I still want to buy a puppy from a breeder in the future. It's ju[color=#660066]st what I rather do, even though  I suggest people adopt b/c it could be for them. (kinda g[color=#990000]etting off subject sorry)[/color][/color]

 
I don't have a problem with people choosing to buy a puppy from a breeder instead of adopting from a shelter. I feel if you're going to buy a puppy from a breeder, it should be a responsible one. If you choose not to go the responsible breeder route then save your money and adopt one from a shelter. At least you'd be saving a life instead of lining a greedy irresponsible breeders pockets. And if anyone is interested in buying a puppy, check out my [linkhttp://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=124633686&blogID=219638337&MyToken=7e68f45f-fa79-40e5-890b-821257fc924d]puppy buyers guide[/link]. []

meilani- I totally agree[]