heard of a new "breed" today

Whats wrong with that if thats the kind of dog they like?

Now that's actually an interesting question that got me thinking. How do they know they like this type of dog? Now when I got otto, I did lots of research, I looked at many breeds and picked the one that fit my needs/desires. That's one of the arguments for getting a purebreed dog, you generally know what you are getting yourself into. I'm not sure how you could with these designer dogs. The "breeders" will advertize all these traits they pull from the breed standards of both, but how could they possibly know what will be passed on or to put it another way, which traits are dominant? The truth is, they don't know what they like about that "breed", they bought into the hype. Now, if goldendoodles had been around for 100 years and had a breed standard and were well established, maybe. The one that is getting one soon said, they are great, they have the hypoallergenic coat of a poodle but the personality of a golden retriever. Ok again, these are surgeons, they should know better, we all took genetics. There is no way you can guarantee only good traits will be passed along. And again, someone with a perfect golden who fits the breed standard in everyway with a ch would be unlikely to allow a breeding with a poodle righ?

ORIGINAL: Eclipse

I'm so sorry, I hope I'm not steping on any toes-Now with that said I read some where about a Shar Pei with a Basset hound and that is the cutest mix I have ever seen.
here's a link -[linkhttp://www.dogbreedinfo.com/bashar.htm]http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/bashar.htm[/link]

 
It is adorable. And that is why so many mixed breeds are being made now, becuase they are so cute, it is hard to say no to a puppy.
 
I think we need to work on the problem with the pure breed dogs. Over population and all that. Dogs nowadays really dont have much to do, as opposed to 100+ years ago when dogs were not pets, they were working farm help ect. So why make more dog breeds? they are not needed. there is well over 100 reconized breeds out there now. *Sorry Ecplise, this was not directed to you (the first part about the cute puppy was though lol)

A little off topic, but we had a Doberman/Boxer Mix come into the clinic today.  The owner paid $1500 for the puppy & I can honestly say that it was the ugliest puppy I have ever seen.  I can only imagine what these people may be  in for.....a spastic, goofy dog, who could be protective, highstrung, clingy & a little flighty.  I have both breeds & love the qualities in each breed, but I can't imagine combining those qualities. JMO.

Just a random thought, if they are really trying to create a "new" breed, why all the stupid hybrid names? Why not give the "new" breed a new name?

Sorry, deep thoughts ha ha

tankstar- I understand about the working on the problem with the pure dogs. It annoys me that (around this area) that they are still people that throw dogs off the country roads or in the high-and I mean high[color="#660000"]-[/color]kill pound. The pound seems to always have dogs and/or cats. The droping off is worse b/c the dogs/cats are strays that have offspring and are wild and hungry.

ORIGINAL: Lilea

ORIGINAL: Chuffy

Some crosses are unwise.  Some breeds traits shouldn't be mixed with other breed traits.  I'm questioning the wisdom of intentionally mixing labs and boxers, the traits the resultant pups are likely to have and whether they would be desirable or not and if so whether it is sufficient reason to deliberately produce more mixed breed pups when there are so many in shelters needing homes and so many dying every day because there aren't enough homes to go round.

And it is a mixed breed.  It won't be a "breed" for several generations, until the desired traits are fixed it'll be as much pot luck as with any other mix as to whether you get more boxer or more lab in this or that pup.  Even littermates are likely to differ wildly in appearance and behavioural traits.

I can understand about not wanting breeds to mix that would have health problems.  But there are lots of purebreds in shelters too so by that reasoning purebreds shouldn't be bred either. 
Of course I don't approve of breeding dogs like that out of sheer greed but I think there are good and bad breeders everywhere,  all purebred breeders are not respectable and all mixedbred breeders are not selfish and greedy.

 
(Emphasis added by me)  Darn right.  Most pedigree litters shouldn't be born.  EVERY breeder should be asking himself, What is my aim with producing this litter?  What am I trying to achieve?  What are the benefits?  Will this litter marginally raise the standard of the breed in general?  If every breeder asked those things and if the answer to that last one was always a resounding Yes! there would be fewer pups around and there would be more healthy sound tempered ones than not.  I'm questioning whether the breeder of the pups mentioned in the OP asked any of those questions or just saw a gimmick and a way to make money.

ORIGINAL: nocturnal76

Right now we have a "Labradoodle" at the shelter.  I bet someone paid $1500 or more for this dog.  They call these kinds of dogs "designer dogs" according to a fellow volunteer.

 
WRT to Labradoodles..... Slightly dofferent because I can see the benefit of these.
 
Labs and lab retrievers are frequently used as guide dogs and other assistance dogs because of the famed temperament and trainability. 

In many cases a person is unable to have an assistance dog who would greatly improve his or her quality of life because they react adversely to dog hair. 

Hence the Labradoodle.  There are people out there with complicated breeding programs who understand about genetics who are trying to produce consistant pups of that "breed" that consistantly combine the desired traits of both original breeds.  As yet, many labradoodles still shed..... it's a work in progress.  It will be a while before this is a true "breed". 
 
Unfortunately, again there are people who will wildly breed any lab to any poodle just so they can charge extortionate amounts for the resultant crosses which is what I disagree with.[:@]

This is so stupid....just another way of making a buck........look, the folks who rescue can only take in so many dogs..........the rest get put down...."DEATH"
 
Doesn't that mean anything?
 
 
I guess not, this world is full of greedy worthless people................

ORIGINAL: Chuffy
WRT to Labradoodles..... Slightly dofferent because I can see the benefit of these.

Labs and lab retrievers are frequently used as guide dogs and other assistance dogs because of the famed temperament and trainability. 

Hence the Labradoodle.  There are people outIn many cases a person is unable to have an assistance dog who would greatly improve his or her quality of life because they react adversely to dog hair. 

Poodles are highly trainable have a great temperament and would not need to be crossed with any other breed to make a great guide dog.  Just as a poodle would need grooming and haircuts so does a labradoodle. 
 
To make a new breed takes more than the mixing of two breeds.  It takes more than two breeds, I believe the minimum is 3 but I  lean towards it being  more like 4-5 and than it will take years after that to get a standard set. 
 
Sorry so long my point is if a non shedding guide dog is needed there is no need to make a doodle anything... a poodle could also serve the purpose just fine.

An interesting point and it makes me wonder why they haven't done so.  I am assuming there must be a reason.... the smaller varieties of poodles have been trained and used with hreat success as hearing dogs.  So why not guide dogs and other assitance dogs....?  But that is OT.  Sorry.  As you were.
 
The grooming and haircuts are presumably less of a problem than the shedding.

Great post heidandseek. I completely agree!

I find it ridiculous that eople are putting out thousands of dollars to get an unpredictable poodle mix when there are so many hypo-allergenic breeds already available.

The Soft Coated Wheaten Terrier is an excellent example of why no one needs a Goldendoodle or Labradoodle.
Not only do they have the same shaggy coat and are intelligent with great temperaments, but they also have a non-shed coat...go figure! Why in the world do we need a mutt version of this breed!?

As you can see, they look almost identical...

They look very different to me.  And that photo is only one example of the goldendoodle, I'm sure they dont all look the same.

ORIGINAL: JRTmom
As you can see, they look almost identical...

Wheatens are wonderful dogs.   You are right when you say they are almost identical but that is ONLY IF the breeder of the doodle gets the dog they were hoping for

ORIGINAL: Lilea
They look very different to me.  And that photo is only one example of the goldendoodle, I'm sure they dont all look the same.

You are right Lilea doodles will not all look the same as they are a mixed breed.  But the look they are trying to achieve is the look of the wheaten.
So which of these dogs is the wheaten can you tell?

I like trick questions.....................[8D]