heard of a new "breed" today

Most purebred dogs shouldn't be bred either. Until dog overpopulation is gotten under control, breeding should be limited to purebred dogs of outstanding quality by low-volume ethical breeders.
 
I got both my dogs from a shelter, one mixed breed, one purebred. I love them both equally but the forces that contributed to them being in the shelter I don't love so much.

I actually just got an email yesterday from someone, friend of a friend, looking to rehome her boxer/ lab mix.  Apparenty they don't want to just give the uppy away because they already put a lot of money into it.  I wish I could take him, so cute.
By the way they are rehoming the dog because their lease only allows dogs under 25 pounds.  What were they thinking....  I couldn't even post about this because right away as I was far too irratated yesterday. 
So many issues at once.  I really hope her dog doesn't end up in a shelter.  There is enough there already.

I can understand about not wanting breeds to mix that would have health problems. But there are lots of purebreds in shelters too so by that reasoning purebreds shouldn't be bred either.
Of course I don't approve of breeding dogs like that out of sheer greed but I think there are good and bad breeders everywhere, all purebred breeders are not respectable and all mixedbred breeders are not selfish and greedy.

 
I can go with that......we all know some breeders should not breed dogs at all......
 
Give me a valid reason why intentionally mixed breeds get sold for an enormous amount of money, if not for the cash?

ORIGINAL: Lilea
I can understand about not wanting breeds to mix that would have health problems.  But there are lots of purebreds in shelters too so by that reasoning purebreds shouldn't be bred either. 
Of course I don't approve of breeding dogs like that out of sheer greed but I think there are good and bad breeders everywhere,  all purebred breeders are not respectable and all mixedbred breeders are not selfish and greedy.

 
You are right there are tons of bad breeders ...purebred and mixed alike.  But with all the breeds available why would you want to breed a mixed breed?  I have had some wonderful mixes who were smart and very much loved.  The reason for purebreds is I than get a pretty good idea what type of dog I will be dealing with. 

To intentionally breed a mixed breed is only adding to the pet population.  Do you think those breeders are having the necessary tests done to insure the good health and temperament of the pups?  Do you think those breeders are willing to take those pups back if the home they placed them in can't keep them for some reason?  A responsible breeder does that. 

Go spend some time at your local kill shelter...take a look at the intentionally bred dogs, mixed and purebreds that are on death row.  Than come back and tell me that a irresponsible breeder should be breeding their dogs.  Do you know that big black dogs are the hardest to adopt out and the first to be euthanized in most shelters.  Whole litters at a time... walk a basket of 9 mixed breeds labs to the room where the dogs are never walked back out of and see if you still think mixed breeding is ok....

Right now we have a "Labradoodle" at the shelter.  I bet someone paid $1500 or more for this dog.  They call these kinds of dogs "designer dogs" according to a fellow volunteer.

I just found out that one of my attendings at work has TWO goldendoodles. He flew to canada to get them. He talked one of his partners in to getting one and he flys up there next month, sigh.....

IMO, *most* people who are trying to create these hybrids really don't understand genetics. They think they can breed two dogs and get only the "good" traits from each. I heard this horrible story at the dog park about a "breeder" who crossed a pug and I can't remember if it was a pom or tzu (another small dog) and the puppies were kinda funky looking (according to this volunteer ). She couldn't get $1000 for each so she just dumped them at the pound near my house. How sad I wonder how much this actually goes on.

ORIGINAL: houndlove
Most purebred dogs shouldn't be bred either. Until dog overpopulation is gotten under control, breeding should be limited to purebred dogs of outstanding quality by low-volume ethical breeders.

Why can I never find the words to say this so elequently and with a lot less paragraphs than I normally do.[8|]

Lilea, most people feel the way you do about these dogs' breeders at first.

But you're missing the huge point. And I'm sure that point has been covered endlessly.
Everyone is well-aware that there are bad purebred dog breeders as well. That's not the point. It's not a purebred issue. Everyone here is also against the irresponsible breeding of purebreds. But we are talking about mixed breeding.
It's the fact that these dogs have absolutely no purpose to serve, they are being bred for the pet trade. There are more than enough companion dogs out there, but these people are so greedy with their money that they make wide-eyed claims of these dogs being superior because they are mutts, and make thousands and thousands of dollars off of a litter.
I saw Lab/Poodle mixes in the shelters before they were even being bred in this country. The original founder of this "breed" even admitted that the dogs are not coming out the way they had planned, even after breeding 4 and 5 generation dogs without mixing in more Lab or Poodle, but breeding striahgt Labradoodle to Labradoodle. And yet, people in the United States are breeding them and swearing up and down they are hypoallergenic, don't shed, aren't vocal and have no high energy, which is a load of lies and bull, and you can ask anyone who has worked in a vets office, or shelter. There are constant complaints about these and other crosses not having proper temperaments, because the breeds being mixed are not even in the same genre of dog.
These breeders tug hard at people heartstrings, especially the ones who breed tiny dogs, putting them next to dollar bills and dressing them up with boas and sequens and hats, trying harder to get them sold, for $5000+. I have seen a Yorkshire Terrier that was just a few ounces at more than 6 weeks old. Do you have any idea the problems this dog will have in it's life? And it was being sold for $10,000!

I really suggest you do a ton of research on the reasons why these breeders do this. A fancy website can be made by anyone, and information can be made up on the spot. Hopefully you'll understand much better why these breeders are irresponsible, and why it is unfortunate for the dogs and their offspring.

ORIGINAL: Lilea

ORIGINAL: marynh

I'm not a dog breed snob by any means...but to breed 2 dogs together to come up with some cutsey name is just plain wrong.
And to charge $$$$$ for them is even worse.
I'm sure many shelters have "boxadors"

I don't think people mix breeds just to call them by a cutesy name (I think a lot of the cutesy names sound really stupid).  And I don't see the problem with charging money for them.  Breeders charge money for purebreds all the time.  I really don't see the difference.

We have no problem with people having mixed breed dogs.  However, in my part of the conutry, Labradoodles are selling for $2500.00 each.  Purebred Labs (show quality or from nice hunting stock) cost about $800.00 each.  BYB Labs go for about $300.00 each.  Are the overpriced "designer" dogs really worth that much more?  Also, many people who purposely breed these designer dogs do NOT do the necessary health testing to ensure that the resulting puppies will be healthy for their entire lives.

Also, many designer breeders insist that all Labrdoodles are hypoallergenic.  If you know anything about genetics, you know that this can't ALWAYS be true.  Some dogs will have the curly coats of Poodles and some will have the straight (shedding) coats of Labs.

All of us here like ALL dogs, be they free mutts from the neighbor's "oops" litter, a rescue, or a very carefully selected purebred.  What we HATE is people who breed only for money, not for the betterment of any given breed.

ORIGINAL: Lilea
I can understand about not wanting breeds to mix that would have health problems.  But there are lots of purebreds in shelters too so by that reasoning purebreds shouldn't be bred either. 
Of course I don't approve of breeding dogs like that out of sheer greed but I think there are good and bad breeders everywhere,  all purebred breeders are not respectable and all mixedbred breeders are not selfish and greedy.

 
Nearly every breed has health problems.  The healthiest dogs that best represent the breed standard are not the ones being used to create these mixes.  If you cross a Chihuahua with a Yorkie, there is a chance you will have luxating patellas.  If you cross a Labrador and a Boxer, you can get cherry eye, hip dysplasia, hypothyroidism, susceptability to bloat, and I wouldn't be surprised if they ended up with demodectic mange.  The people who are breeding these mixed breeds are most likely not going to be getting proper testing done on them to make sure they do not have these issues to pass down to the puppies.  Not all purebred breeders do either and, in my mind, they fall into exactly the same category as the people mixing breeds just for the cash. 

I wrote about "designer dogs" on my websites. Clicky [linkhttp://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=124633686&blogID=220266737&MyToken=be988330-9228-4863-ae3d-6f06ebeed04d]here[/link] if you're interested.

ORIGINAL: ottoluv
I just found out that one of my attendings at work has TWO goldendoodles. He flew to canada to get them. He talked one of his partners in to getting one and he flys up there next month, sigh.....

Whats wrong with that if thats the kind of dog they like?

IMO, *most* people who are trying to create these hybrids really don't understand genetics. They think they can breed two dogs and get only the "good" traits from each.

You may be right about that.  It would be great if all breeders were knowledgable and responsible.  Its too bad breeding (on both sides) can't be regulated somehow.
 

 I heard this horrible story at the dog park about a "breeder" who crossed a pug and I can't remember if it was a pom or tzu (another small dog) and the puppies were kinda funky looking (according to this volunteer ). She couldn't get $1000 for each so she just dumped them at the pound near my house. How sad I wonder how much this actually goes on.

Thats really terrible but I do feel fortunate for having my pug/shih tzu mix (adopted at six months).  She was sold in a pet shop for $450 which I don't think is outrageous compared to the prices of other purebred and "designer breeds" (I hate that term).  The lady who purchased her was elderly and discovered she could not keep up with a puppy.  I do think there is an abundance of enormously overpriced mixed breeds and purebreds out there.

I seen those advertised around here as a very rare breed, I laughed. I thne emailed them to explain that that isnt a breed and it is just a mutt, not to mention their dogs are about one year old (so they say). Poor pups.

ORIGINAL: Lilea

ORIGINAL: marynh

I'm not a dog breed snob by any means...but to breed 2 dogs together to come up with some cutsey name is just plain wrong.
And to charge $$$$$ for them is even worse.
I'm sure many shelters have "boxadors"

I don't think people mix breeds just to call them by a cutesy name (I think a lot of the cutesy names sound really stupid).  And I don't see the problem with charging money for them.  Breeders charge money for purebreds all the time.  I really don't see the difference.

 
Offcourse breeders will charge good money, that is becuase for the most part, their dogs are worth it. Most people now are starting to breed all these mutts, with out health clearence first, breeding them to young and breeding them to bad stock. Then charging upwaords of 2500 bucks for a dog I can go to the pound and buy for 150 bucks, with shots, spay/neutard and obidence trained.

I'm so sorry, I hope I'm not steping on any toes-Now with that said I read some where about a Shar Pei with a Basset hound and that is the cutest mix I have ever seen.
here's a link -[linkhttp://www.dogbreedinfo.com/bashar.htm]http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/bashar.htm[/link]

ORIGINAL: Lilea

I do feel fortunate for having my pug/shih tzu mix (adopted at six months).  She was sold in a pet shop for $450 which I don't think is outrageous compared to the prices of other purebred and "designer breeds" (I hate that term).  The lady who purchased her was elderly and discovered she could not keep up with a puppy.  I do think there is an abundance of enormously overpriced mixed breeds and purebreds out there.

So she bought a expensive mutt from a pet store, who was made by a BYB. 450 is to much to get a mixed dog for IMO.