She is not eating...

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    She is not eating...

    Fiona, mini-schnauzer, lately have not eaten as usual. We give her can food, one meal in the morning and one at night. but she does not want to eat, I'm worried, so my girl made some beef for her and she ate it, but we can't give her beef everyday... what should I do??  
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    Have you noticed any other changes in her behavior?
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    how long has she not been eating?  are there any other things you notice that are diff. about her? is she still pooping and peeing regular?  what kind of food do you feed her? is she drinking the same or more than usual?  how old is she?
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    well, she just had her first period, since she had the first period everything changed, she used to pee only one time when I take her out, now is 2 or more, she usually poops in the morning and at night, now she wont poop, I have to take her out even more because I'm worried she'll poop inside the house.

    I give her can food pretty much, I don't have one with me right now, but I buy it at publix, its in a white plastic container.... she have not eat that food in 4 days now, I give her ground beef and mixed with a little of what I eat, except pork or fish. she eats  everything. but lately she just doesn't eat anything unless we give it to her or beef. Her period just went away today, so hopefully she will start eating her normal food again...
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    I would get her to a vet.  Thats a long time to go without eating, and depending on why shes not interested in her regular food, feeding her table food may add to the problem.  I say this because my Kayla just died from pancreatitis, and she would not eat, but of course she would eat really good stuff we tried to give her.  Im not suggesting she has that but the vet told me that when a dog doesnt eat its because their bodies are telling them not to and giving them something they cant resist can make probems worse. 
    If she is drinking more water than normal that may also be a sign something is wrong.  Is she looking underweight or is the other type food shes eating sufficient? 

    Or maybe shes just gotten spoiled.  I dont see her being to enhusiastic about going back to the dog food when shes been getting much more tasty things.  I would also suggest you add a good brand of dry dog food to her diet.

    Personally I would go to have her checked out just in case.
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    well, she has ate, the only day that she didn't eat her food I immediatly made her ground beef, since I give her once in a while, she was like that with dry food, she just stop eating, like, "I'm tired of it" I usually mix it with dry food, but 4 days ago she didn't eat in the morning, at night, still was there, thowed that one away, gave her another one, still didn't eat it, so next morning I gave her beef. she have not drink more or less water, about the same, I'll have a vet check her out anyways.... but she seems very energized still.....
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    Although I think its safe to check it out since its a concern, it seems you may just have a girl on your hands who knows that if she doesnt eat she will get something better. [;)]
     
    Hope thats the case, let us know if you do get her checked.
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    ORIGINAL: loveukaykay

    Although I think its safe to check it out since its a concern, it seems you may just have a girl on your hands who knows that if she doesnt eat she will get something better. [;)]

    Hope thats the case, let us know if you do get her checked.

    definetely, I'll probably take her next wednesday, just to check her out, she is very spoiled so I wouldn't be surprise if thats the case.....
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    While you have her at the vet, make an appointment to have her spayed.  Hormonal changes are rough on a dog, and the longer she keeps that uterus the greater her chances of mammary cancers, cancers of the reproductive organs and pio...a deadly uterine infection.
     
    I suspect that she is fine and just turning into a really picky eater.  If the vet clears her, put her food down, leave it there for 15 minutes and if she hasn't eaten it, take it back up.  No food, no treats, no nothing until the next regular meal time.  Put the food down, leave it for 15 minutes and again take it up if she hasn't eaten.  When she is on a good regular eating schedule THEN you can add the goodies, but not while she is on a food strike.
     
    Now, then, if you are buying her food at Publix, you need to do some serious research into doggie nutrition.  She needs a MEAT based food, and you aren't likely to find that at the grocery store.
     
    [linkhttp://www.mordanna.com/dogfood]www.mordanna.com/dogfood[/link]
     
    is an excellent place to start researching.
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    Mau, Miniature Schnauzers as a breed are prone to hyperlipidemia, which in turn makes them very susceptible to getting Pancreatitis.  As loveyoukay said, this is a very serious condition and can be fatal.  I'm not saying that Fiona has it either, but what concerned me about your post is the type of food you are feeding her.   You need to be aware of the fat content of the food she eats, both her regular food and everything else you feed her as well (including treats).  A meal of ground beef could itself bring on an attack of pancreatitis if it has enough fat in it.  In general, most ms owners try to keep the fat content at 13-14%.  That can be difficult to do and still provide sufficient protein, so you really have to take a good look at the content and quality of her regular food.  And definitely stay away from fatty people food and treats. A reluctance to eat is often an early warning sign of pancreatitis.  When a dog has pancreatitis - they shouldn't eat, and sometimes they're smarter than we are.  Their bodies are telling them not to eat - so it's best to not try to overly coax them into it, especially by providing something yummy they can't resist.   Again, I'm not saying this is what has caused her recently loss of interest in food...but as an ms owner, you need to familiarize yourself with the health concerns they face and how to avoid feeding them things that they shouldn't eat. 
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    Mau good luck at the vet I hope your Fiona doesnt have what my Kayla had.
    We think the pancreatitis with her was started because she got into some rib fat drippings under the grill after a big bar-b-que. 
     
    The vet will not be able to tell you if she has a problem with her pancreas without blood work, so you may want to ask for it.
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    Also, Mau, if your mini shau is more suseptible to pancreatitis due to her breed, feeding her a high fat diet can be very dangerous.  Although the causes are still somewhat unknown that is one that they do know.  A high fat diet or one instance when they get into something with very high fat (such as Kayla did).  I have also heard of the example when a dog got into a bag of chocolates.  But it is more commonly related to meat fat and pork more specifically.
    A sensitive pancreas can get easily aggravated by fat and become inflamed, and youve got a serious problem on your hands. 
     
    Let us know what the vet says.
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    Mau -- honestly I wouldn't wait til Wednesday.  Some of the folks are thinking pancreatiiis and I"m thinking pyometra.  In any event -- get her seen asap.  Both of those things are dangerous and not to be left -- the longer it goes the more serious and life threatening BOTH are.

    And do have her spayed -- not all dogs are candidates for breeding and not all of them handle it well.  If it is simply her cycle and she went off her food during it, then she's better off spayed anyway.  but my gut tells me that there's too much coincidence here -- a dog's first heat CAN trigger pyometra and lethargy and not wanting to eat can be big huge signs. 
     
    I'm not saying the others aren't right -- I'm simply saying that these sorts of symptoms can be pretty dire -- and which ever of us IS right -- neither is a good thing (and frankly, ALL of us hope we're ALL wrong!!)
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    Update: took her to the vet today, as I was a walk in blood work couldn't be done, but vet saw her and he said that is probably not pancreatis, well he touch her and press and she was not hurting, but that blood work is needed, so I am taking her to do blood work on tuesday morning. he gave her a shot of vitamin B complex, hi-vite drops and panacur 100mg... so hopefully everything goes well,
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    Good -- those particular symptoms can be so many things -- I'm sure he will test for pyometra.  But it kinda begins to sound like this dog doesn't deal well with estrus cycles IF it's nothing 'dire' -- and if so that's THE best reason (aside from the obvious health benefits and longevity benefits) to spay.