Dog Community

Posted : 8/25/2006 1:24:17 PM

Sign me up! I hope there will be a post with more info about how we can help or a petition or something. Thanks for keeping us informed.

dyan

Posted : 8/25/2006 1:42:49 PM

Gees,,,just for a start: There are tons of these in SEARCH.

[linkhttp://www.petitiononline.com/02FFARO/petition.html http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/280310085 http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/737886219 http://jowlflapper.com/archive/msg00008.html http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/nopuppymills/ This>http://www.petitiononline.com/pupmills/petition.html]http://www.petitiononline.com/pupmills/petition.html[/link] http://www.petitiononline.com/02FFARO/petition.html http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/280310085 http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/737886219 http://jowlflapper.com/archive/msg00008.html http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/nopuppymills/ This one has a petition and tons of reading. [linkhttp://www.prisonersofgreed.org/Coalition.html]http://www.prisonersofgreed.org/Coalition.html[/link]

Sergio Tariq

Posted : 8/26/2006 2:00:03 PM

Hi,

        Sorry for not posting sooner but it has been a very busy couple of days. I am posting some links with info on puppy mills in general, some groups who are involved in trying to do something about it and also Hunte Corp, Pfizer and the AKC involvement. There is a lot more info and articles on the net about this but I think this gives a good overview of it all.

        From what I read Pfizer seems to be attending annual conferences and giving advice on how to increase productivity – ie breed healthier pups and more of them. I am not sure if they are involved more behind the scenes though, But is simple enough really – the more pets out there the more money they make selling their pet products.

         I think the first step is to target Pfizer and its involvement with the puppy mills. I posted a couple of letters earlier and we could send those, or any other if you prefer in to Pfizer and also the competition. For it to register with them at all we have to get as many people as possible to send them in. Secondly we need to start writing en masse to newspapers, both local and national, about Pfizer and the puppy mills. Again we need to do this in substantial numbers. The aim should be twofold at least – one eventually aim to get Pfizer to back out of this and secondly to get them to state they are against the puppy mill industry and also Hunte Corp#%92s role in it.

          We also need to make this sustained as well. So if you guys want we can make this an ongoing thing and divide up some work. (1) We need a list of online dog and pet forums, (2) to get as many people as possible to sign those online petitions, (3) to write to the governors of those states involved in puppy mills on a huge scale. (4) And this is important I think we need to write to the US Department of Agriculture and complain about them giving loans to Hunte Corp. (5) and to find out the main competitors of Pfizer so we can email them.

           I will get a list of the forums tomorrow hopefully. Ok now this will probably sound silly but who do you write to if you want to get a law passed against selling animals in pet stores? In the States would that be at the local state level or higher?

         How do we organise this - on the thread, via emails, a yahoo group as Dyan suggested?

Sergio Tariq

Posted : 8/26/2006 2:25:00 PM

dyan

Posted : 8/26/2006 7:58:51 PM

Wow!! Good work Sergio!!!

I hope for a start,,,we call all sign those petitions...they were already created and fast and easy to do.

Ok now this will probably sound silly but who do you write to if you want to get a law passed against selling animals in pet stores? In the States would that be at the local state level or higher?

My guess its the local states. Hopefully someone knows this answer.

dyan

Posted : 8/26/2006 9:09:39 PM

Here is something for anyone living in California! Its not something we can all help out with but if you do live there,,its something worthwhile. It may not be stopping puppy mills or pet stores selling pets...but it sure is helping! I understand Arizona is trying to pass this same bill.
[linkhttp://ga0.org/campaign/AB2862]http://ga0.org/campaign/AB2862[/link]

smilee1079

Posted : 8/26/2006 10:43:22 PM

I am very busy these days so I am unable to constantly check updates on this link but if you give me somewhere to write a letter and what you'd like it to say or something to do, let me know.

I will also post info you need me to on a dachshund board I go on and ODO which others from here also visit regularly.

dyan

Posted : 8/27/2006 7:17:24 AM

I am very busy these days so I am unable to constantly check updates on this link but if you give me somewhere to write a letter and what you'd like it to say or something to do, let me know.

Yes,,,many of us are pretty busy,,, I know I am also. I'm also spending a lot of time trying to go between a couple of forums. I wonder if I started a thread to have people sign up on,,,,just to have their email addresses so we can send an update to. To have all these addresses in one place would be so much easier then going back and forth trying to remember who is interested.

dyan

Posted : 8/27/2006 10:24:23 AM

I just wanted to tell you guys (in case any of you are NOT following the pet store thread) what a great idea Ron had. He emailed the Discovery Channel that houses Animal Planet,,, to ask them if they could organize an ad campaign to educate the public about puppy mills and pet store pets. It can be found at this link,,,,at the end. [linkhttp://forum.dog.com/asp/tm.asp?m=126012&mpage=5&key=𠪈]http://forum.dog.com/asp/tm.asp?m=126012&mpage=5&key=𠪈[/link]

ron2

Posted : 8/28/2006 4:44:46 PM

This is the reply I got back from Discovery Channel. A form letter and a rejection, showing that they don't seem to care to even directly address my question, even if only to reject my direct proposal outright.
Thank you for taking the time to contact Discovery Networks. We appreciate
your interest in our programming and are delighted to hear from our
viewers. Unfortunately, we are unable to provide you with the information
you're requesting.

Our databases contain a lot of information, such as airdates and
information on videos that are available for sale.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.

A reply to this message is not necessary. For more information about
schedules and programming check our website, [linkhttp://www.discovery.com]www.discovery.com[/link]. If you
have any further inquiries or comments, please contact us via our webform
at [linkhttp://extweb.discovery.com/ViewerRelations]http://extweb.discovery.com/ViewerRelations[/link]. Thank you again for
expressing your interest in our programming.

Sincerely,
Barbara

Viewer Relations
Discovery Networks

They couldn't say, no, we cannot or will not organise a national ad campaign against puppy mills and pet stores that sell them the puppies. It's just a generic rejection letter, suitable for use only if I run out of toilet paper.

I have to say that I am disappointed. They'll show the animal police shows where puppy mills are raided but they won't help to stop them. So, now, we have to think of something else.

dyan

Posted : 8/28/2006 6:22:39 PM

They couldn't say, no, we cannot or will not organise a national ad campaign against puppy mills and pet stores that sell them the puppies. It's just a generic rejection letter, suitable for use only if I run out of toilet paper.

I have to say that I am disappointed. They'll show the animal police shows where puppy mills are raided but they won't help to stop them. So, now, we have to think of something else.

I agree Ron, it IS a generic rejection letter. It would possibly have more effect if many of us would write to them. IF they saw that it would bring more money in,,,they would probably consider it.
I too got disapointing news today,,,about our bill HB606,,,where our representative said no way would the bill make it thru this year.
You opened the door by putting the link to the Discovery Channel... I'm going to write them myself. Of course I don't expect any more then you got,,,but at least let them know they should be thinking of this.
Back to the drawing board!!!

dyan

Posted : 8/28/2006 6:38:06 PM

I DID just send an email off.

ron2

Posted : 8/28/2006 6:54:48 PM

You're probably right. If one person sends an email, they may think I'm a crackpot. But if 1,000 people send an email, that's something to consider.

Christi

Posted : 8/28/2006 7:13:43 PM

Dyan, I'm still not convinced that your Rep. knows what he's talking about. From what Carmichael's office told me when I spoke to them, there is a lot of support for this bill in the House. Don't get discouraged yet...

dyan

Posted : 8/28/2006 7:26:21 PM

But if 1,000 people send an email, that's something to consider.

I was hopin[color=#000000].g we could get 1000 people to send the same kind of letter to the same places....I figured with all the dog lovers on this board and some of the others that we frequent....and then when some of the people that read them send to others....and so on and so forth......[/color]
Dyan, I'm still not convinced that your Rep. knows what he's talking about. From what Carmichael's office told me when I spoke to them, there is a lot of support for this bill in the House

I hope your right,,,, but so far he is the only one that answered me. I wrote and told him that I saw that his name was not on the list of supporters...and that was his answer. He might not have meant it would not pass,,,but rather NOT while he is in office..and that is why his name is not on.

Please read - about getting involved against puppy mills