Well, it looks like this is my goodbye thread.

I do understand where you are coming from. I have felt the same way at time, and I'm sure all the others have too.
 
I think that is why alot of lurkers, well, are only lurkers. I almost got scared off too before I even became a member. I was scared of saying the wrong thing, I even switched dog foods before I posted anything.
 
And yes people have said some rude things to me, but that is just the way some people are. And I have come to exept that...being one of the reasons I rarley post anymore (and that I am very busy now with school.)
 
Upon first joining, when I was jusr a lurker, I felt sort of like this was a clique, and you either belonged or you did not.
 
Anyways, Tamara, I have always enjoyed your posts and pictures, and when I was a lurker, I always thought you had tons of good info! Well I still do, but you know what I mean.
 
I wished you wouldn't leave, maybe you will  reconsider?[sm=proud.gif] 
 
If you do go, I wish all the best the Gingerbread and Fudge, and please do check in at least once a while?

Oh no, please don't leave.....

I do know how you feel though.  I feed one of my dogs Hill's j/d, never let another off leash, and crate both of them for over 4 hours at a time--in the eyes of some members these things make me a Bad Dog Owner.  At first this really upset me.  However, at the end of the day I realized that I am only trying to do what was best/safest for them and it is just an interenet board...

You are a Good Dog Owner, Tamara, and nothing that anyone on here say to you can change that.  I love reading your posts and really hope you do decide to stay.  If you must leave however, I wish you and your little pack the best and hope you check in with us from time to time so that we can see how Cupcake is growing.....

ORIGINAL: chelsea_b

The second anyone does something that strays slightly from protocol,

Tamara, I think it's really unfair that you say this. You KNOW that everyone here just cares about dogs. You KNOW that we all just hate how many homeless dogs there are. The truth is, backyard breeders and puppymills are a huge part of the reason there are so many dogs sitting in shelters.

So when you're posting about getting a puppy who is way under standard-size, and buying it online..it sends up major BYB flags, which only makes everyone think of the millions of dogs who die every year for NO reason, other than selfish people who breed them for profit.

I'm not telling you your breeder is a BYB or worse, because I don't know enough about them to make that judgment, but from purposely breeding tiny dogs, and selling them online, it sounds like they definitely could be.

Everyone's just trying to make sure you're not supporting bad breeders, and it really sucks that you feel you need to leave because of that.

 
Well said Chelsea, I agree.
 
Best wishes in whichever desicion you choose to make []

Oh no, I hope you'll reconsider. Sorry that last thread went in a bad direction. [&o] You're a good dog owner, and you've always been so nice and helpful to everyone. I'll miss seeing Gingerbread and Fudge, and I was hoping to see some photos of Cupcake with her new brothers. If you do leave, try to drop by once in a while and update us on your Tzus, okay?      

Interesting concept announcing ones departure. If one really was serious they would PM their friends and then just fade away. Announcements scream of wanting to see a thread of supporters and then staying. I hope you don`t take that as an attack but as an observation from a number of boards.

Yikes! I'm just now climbing out from Glenda's rock and learning about Cupcake.
 
So....I read the thread and I don't think people were trying to attack you, but did have some concerns. It's always your choice whether to respond to those concerns or not.
 
If you feel that you don't want to be here, consider taking a little time off before deciding on the never, never again course of action. Your opinions have been valued by most of the people most of the time and you have darling dogs. Both would be missed.

ORIGINAL: meilani

I'm sorry to see you go but based on the last thread, it sounds as if people are just trying to give you a heads up so you don't end up with heartache. What you've posted sent up some red flags and considering that you've been a member of this board for a while, people are just looking out for you. I hope you'll reconsider leaving.

Meilani is right.  This is a forum, or at least it always was, where people do want you to avoid heartbreak in choosing and managing a dog.  I think that they may have overlooked how invested you were in the new dog already with the way they chose to address that.  No one was trying to straighten you out based on some arbitrary protocol, but I do think they were trying to give you the heads up so you wouldn't get burned.  I really don't think anyone meant to hurt you.  chelsea_b is right - although I didn't post on the thread that seems to have made you feel this way, it did send up the same red flags to me.  I just didn't add because others had already expressed to you that there might be a problem with that breeder. 
I am only on this board because I still care about the welfare of dogs.  If you think you get slammed sometimes, try walking around in my mocs, LOL.  I just view it as debate, hot or not, and I keep on posting.  I hope you will, too.

I hope you stay, too. [] I went back and re-read that particular thread and I didn't see it so much as an attack as just eople trying to help you avoid a sad situation. If certain people continue to make you feel bad, just do as someone else suggested and use the block. I think you have a lot to offer the forum and I'd hate to see you let someone's "internet tone of voice" keep you from something you obviously enjoy participating in.  Just my [sm=2cents.gif].
 
Joyce

IMO- I think some of the things stated on the thread that caused this one to come into being were uncalled for. I see no where Luvntzus said I found a puppy on line What do you think should I get her? What do you think of on line breeders? What I did read was Getting a new Shih Tzu puppy- so excited! Deposit was sent. In my mind that meant just as much as if the puppy was sitting on Tamaras lap as she was typing - so excited. Did you really think putting her and Cupcake down would change her mind so she wouldn`t get Cupcake in the end.
 
I thought somewhere here on the forum that it said if you already had a pup no mater where it came from it was a done deal and no ranting about it. But If someone asked about getting a pup from a not so good place then you could inform the person. Now I`m not saying luvntzus is getting her puppy from a bad place either. I don`t know the breeder and neither do you only she does. I can see why she had the other thread shut down.
 
Can`t we just congratulate her on her new pup and be here for her if any questions arise in raising Cupcake and Gingerbread & Fudge for that matter. Just like anyone else here on this forum with a dog or a pup that have questions.
 
Tamara posted that thread so we could be excited and happy with her on getting a new pup. Not to have people start in on her and making hurt feelings.

which was supposed to be a happy thing and a few people have managed to ruin.

 
 
I thought that I have read this some where on the forum also - The pup is already born and now it needs a home. Tamara will give this little pup a very good and stable home. This I know.
 
I do think that (in their own minds) the people were trying to help. But Failed to realize that the pup was already in its new home (maybe not physically) but in Tamaras heart.
 
Now remember what I said in the every beginning this is In My Opinion. Maybe not yours but it is mine.

good word Mollymoo

I agree mollymoo 100% - you said it very well

Keep in mind too that when Tamara was having some problems with Cinnabun I think some members here where less than supportive of her decision to rehome (but I don't remember specifics at all).  There might be some bad feelings left over from that which may have fueled the situtation,  thus making her feel bad about a decision regarding her adorable fur family again.
 
I think we have to remember as posters that although many of us already "know" each other new members do not have the history and "know" us.  I believe the poster that originally posed the question was new and didn't know how well Tamara takes care of and loves her fur family and her feelings, etc. etc.
 
Tamara - if you are still out there lurking, don't let this situation stop you from posting.  I know your bubble may have been burst but there are a lot of us out here that are excited for you.

edit, my oh my I meant to PM this, and I see that this is not in my sent folder and thought I lost it.....I guess I replied on the thread though, ah well, hopefully you still see this Tamara!
 
Tamara,
As we talked about I have decided to leave the forum, and even though I've been here not even 2 months, I don't want to leave but I feel it's for the best. I think a lot of what you mentioned here is very on target and it was great that you brought it into the "spotlight". I am a sensitive person as well, I cry kind of easily when I argue with someone even though I don't want to, the tears always come lol. I can totally understand your frustration toward certain people for "ruining" a should-be exciting and wonderful announcement - who doesn't love to share their "I'm getting a new puppy!" happiness?! I know I do. That's part of the reason I enjoyed this forum, because it is full of people who can get excited with you on small things, like finally mastering a command, whereas people in your family or friends wouldn't really care. Hopefully I don't sound like I'm rambling about me, but I'm just trying to say that I can relate and get your situation. Also, you have three beautiful little dogs and come on, your name theme is unbeatable []. You seem like a very kind and caring person who loves her dogs more than anything and they are so fortunate to have a momma like you. Whether you come back or not, I think you should make the decision to suit yourself, not anyone else. Hugs to the soon to be 3 Tzus from me!
~ISGrl

if it was neggative feelings left over from another situation then those people with the problem should have used better judgement and NOT responded. 

Announcements scream of wanting to see a thread of supporters and then staying.

Something wrong with that?