the GOOD part of working with women...

so i would offer that those of us who prefer the company of  men and are labeled as having "male" attitudes have developed this as a manner of self promotion.  "i know i'm female, but i'm not like THAT..."  know what i'm saying?

 
haha, totally!  Although, I have to say - I've never been one of "those" women, i.e. it comes naturally to me to have "male attitudes" as you put it.  Don't get me wrong!  I love my girls!  I have 4 close girlfriends whom I could not live without.  BUT - it just so happens that they are all totally chill, totally dramaless, non-squealers.  I guess that's why I only have 4 GF's, the really cool one's are hard to find.

i see we waited until PAGE THREE to start with the low blows (no pun intended)... this is an improvement, i think...

 
Oh please Sara...do you REALLY expect us to believe this.... coming from a woman who works in a smut shop??[]
 

  it is women like this that cause me to distance myself from my gender.  reading through these stories, i am realizing that perhaps my personality developed as something of a "survival" mechanism. 

  so i would offer that those of us who prefer the company of  men and are labeled as having "male" attitudes have developed this as a manner of self promotion.  "i know i'm female, but i'm not like THAT..."  know what i'm saying?

 
These are interesting comments Sara and I have begun to wonder recently when exactly I started to become more like a "guy" in my attitude and behaviors... or was I always like this? I wasn't raised though in an environment that should have produced my current personality so I think it "evolved" over time... 
 
 

i'm thinking this topic and the observations on personality evolution will be a bit skewed because we have yet to hear from a woman who considers herself to be a "girly girl" and can defend participating in workplace antics.  (i don't expect to hear from these women, either)

ORIGINAL: labcrab
 I've never been one of "those" women, i.e. it comes naturally to me to have "male attitudes" as you put it.  

 
interesting.  i don't feel like i've ever been one of "those" women, either.  and that could be why i can count my girlfriends on one hand.  "girls night out"?  i'd rather die, thanks.  bachelorette party?  no, thanks.
 
i wonder if the male attitude as survival mechanism comes from being the children of a feminist generation?  i mean, i think we're all about the same age, right?

I'm not one of those women either, and I lost my job because I'm not one of those women. I didn't blend well so I got tossed even though I knew the most on my shift and trained all the new people.

I guess I've really been lucky in my jobs.  I've been in a few situations where some of drama and pettiness got out of hand, but it was usually temporary.  I think both genders offer a ositive (and negative) side to things.  However, my strongest bonds have been with some of the women I've worked with, and I still have close friendships with some that I haven't worked with in many years.  I think men care just as much as women when you say you had to put your dog to sleep yesterday or someone you love is very sick, but I don't think they're as good at comforting you.  I think you can tell a woman you're just having a funky day and feeling down and she'll totally understand.  I think men get a llittle uncomfortable (and assume it's hormonal) when you share stuff like that.  I work for a man, and he's wonderful.  I worked for his wife several years ago, and she's the one who recommended that he hire me.  We're more like friends than colleagues, but I don't feel like I can share the kinds of things I could if he were a woman.  It's just the 2 of us in the office and he travels a lot.  We have other people on staff, but they're not located in our office.  I really miss all the women I'd worked with and we still keep in touch.

i wonder if the male attitude as survival mechanism comes from being the children of a feminist generation? i mean, i think we're all about the same age, right?

 
You and I are and I think most of the women on this post are within a 10 year age span.   as far as counting "close" female friends...that is easy.. i can count it on 1 FINGER![]
 

  I think men care just as much as women when you say you had to put your dog to sleep yesterday or someone you love is very sick, but I don't think they're as good at comforting you.  I think you can tell a woman you're just having a funky day and feeling down and she'll totally understand.  I think men get a llittle uncomfortable (and assume it's hormonal) when you share stuff like that. 

 
 
Totally true Cathy.. they do care as much, but just aren't as comfortable with the emotion sharing aspect.  My DH stands and looks at me like a deer in the headlights if I cry... he has NO clue what to do.... all he wants is for it to just "go away"... but doesn't realize a couple kind words or a hug can help greatly.
 
I will say that I have worked with a fair number of gay men and THEY are super at helping you through tough times. All they gotta say is "come here girl" and give you a big hug and listen to you and they deal with the emotional stuff  at least as well as female cowrokers do.   As long as the gay man ISN'T a "drama queen" ...gay men are fantastic to work with!  [] 

My DH stands and looks at me like a deer in the headlights if I cry... he has NO clue what to do.... all he wants is for it to just "go away"... but doesn't realize a couple kind words or a hug can help greatly.

 
Ha-ha, same with mine, and like many men, he usually assumes it's hormonal.  Don't they know that sometimes it isn't??? 

Ha-ha, same with mine, and like many men, he usually assumes it's hormonal. Don't they know that sometimes it isn't???

 
LMAO! I think my DH would be happier if he "thought" it was just hormones. He actually recently admitted to me that I am the least hormonal of any woman he has ever known... that I am very even tempered. But one the rare occassion I cry I think it rocks his world and he would love if he could just contribute it to me being "hormonal" and not some "real problem" I am having.[]    

You know,an argument has been lost in this thread..

 retty much all the women on here agree to not having stellar relationships with other women in the work place.

 If women had kept their proper place as moms and housewives,this wouldn't even be an issue...

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If women had kept their proper place as moms and housewives,this wouldn't even be an issue...

 
ARE YOU SURE you don't want to retract this comment?? I am giving you a chance to edit your post before you are thrown to the "wolves" so to speak... []

  

ORIGINAL: MhadDog

If women had kept their proper place as moms and housewives,this wouldn't even be an issue...

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well HOT DARN, you're RIGHT!  i shall remove my shoes immediately!  and the instant i get home, we'll work on getting pregnant!
 
thank god, because i was sick of wearing the pants anyway....[][][]

[]Mark... you are making it VERY hard for me to be nice to you and NOT make a SERIOUSLY UGLY slam on you... one that will be a VERY low blow and one that I am not sure I want to make publicaly... perhaps I shall just pm you with that comment instead?  Also in light of your behavior today I am not sure you will be receiving your "daily fawn"... I don't think you deserve it and don't even THINK about posting one of my pics that you screwed up in your photo program that makes me look like I am seriously disfigured...  I am an "even- keeled" woman but you don't want to push me too far![]  
 

and the instant i get home, we'll work on getting pregnant! 

  

 
Have fun Sara and bring home some neat stuff from your work to help your efforts![]
 
 

ORIGINAL: MhadDog

If women had kept their proper place as moms and housewives,this wouldn't even be an issue...

 
Yeah well, that's difficult to do when you are either a.) the ONLY source of household income, as in my last marriage or b.) equal breadwinner who's income is necessary to support *his* children!!  AND his ex-wife!  Trust me, I'd LOVE to be a SAHM and live a 1940's life (complete with pink and blue pills!)