the GOOD part of working with women...

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    the GOOD part of working with women...

    Ladies…feel free to flame me on this but I have to say that I hate working in an office with all women. I find an "all- female" office to be full of bitchy, hormonal, vindictive, backstabbing women. To make matters worse once over everyone's "cycles” seem to get in sync it is even worse. 

    BUT today I was reminded of the BENEFITS to working with a lot of women. I have to speak at a conference today and I seem to keep having wardrobe malfunctions…. As I was walking out the front door, the cat swiped my leg trying to get me to play and put a big run in my tights…this is the ONLY hosiery that seems to work with the skirt I am wearing.  I didn't want to change the whole outfit so I ran to the 24 hour Wal-Mart for new tights. Only they didn't have the right ones I need to look really good with this skirt and pantyhose don't work with the skirt as they are TOO opaque…

    I couldn't decide between the ONLY 2 pair they had  so I bought both and once I got to my office put one on one leg, the other on the other leg and went down the hall asking the ladies for advice. All the women seemed to pour out of their offices to give their opinion and were most helpful.

    Five minutes later I am in the bathroom and realize as I am looking in the mirror that the camisole I am wearing under my shirt isn't doing a very good job of covering the "girls” and the neckline of my shirt is too low to wear alone. I have a jacket I am wearing over the shirt but I will be WAY TOO hot to wear it during my entire presentation,  SO…out on the hunt for safety pins to try to jury rig the outfit.  Before I knew it had 15 women looking for safety pins in their purses and desk drawers and several offers to help me "fix” the situation. Now with the cami pinned nicely to the bra to keep everything "in” and professional looking I am good to go!

    Today was a nice reminder of the "GOOD” that can come from working with all women…so ladies of the world…thank you for lending a hand to your coworkers in need!     
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    I dont like working with women much usually either.... But there are compensations!  Especially if there's plenty of people a similar size to you.  Very handy. 
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    I won't flame because I have witnessed the bitchy, hormonal, vindictive women in action before -- thankfully, I don't work with them!  Holy cow, I couldn't imagine how nervous I'd be... never knowing what I'd walk into -- if they were going to be nice or the prince (princesses lol) of darkness.  I believe I'd be a walking ulcer.
     
    I am probably a minority with this but I work in an office of women only (not counting the boss) and it is a BLESSING!  Not only do we get along but it irritates our boss that we take up for each other when he is upset with one of us.  Each has their own personality but none of us clash.  When one is happy, we're all happy... when the other is upset, we're all upset.  We tell our boss HOW LUCKY HE IS on a regular basis!! haha 
     
    Shelly, the benefits you described (with fashion malfunctions and their help) are just another bonus of working with the ladies.  Usually, all it takes is a fashion question or mishap to get all the women stirring. [;)]  Glad you had a good day with the bunch you work with!
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    It's my experience that women are either the best or the worst to work with and work for.  There is usually no middle ground. 
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    If you think it is bad working with a vindictive, hormonal, backstabbing, bitchy woman, you ought to try being MARRIED to one.  [:)]
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    I'm a 22 year old woman and at my current job (nearly 5 years and counting...) I've worked with men.  Personally, I also prefer working with men because they are much more straightforward and easy to read.  We can just do our jobs without all the drama of women competing with each other because they are women (things like looks and guys, stuff that has nothing to do with some positive competition about the JOB).
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    Ive worked in a male dominated industry for nearly 20 years now.  I love it.
    There are 41 people on duty in my office and 4 are women...incl myself.
    Ive been in this situation for so long I tend to take up things they like.  I like football, baseball, nascar and golf. I also play fantasy football and have for many years.
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    I HATE working with women in an office. I worked for over 4 years in an office FULL of nothing but women, and it's not that I didn't get along with the women on my shift, but it's the women on the OTHER shift that were NASTY.

    I was very passive for a while and allowed the "speaker of first shift" talk to me like I was a dirty, nasty hag that they took in off the streets and yell at me for what she claimed MY shift wasn't doing. I could never speak, and anytime I did, she would just continue to berate me.

    Finally when I had had enough and started standing up for myself, she started causing trouble for me. She'd come up to me to bitch about my shift and I'd tell her that it wasn't my problem and that maybe she should be speaking to us as a whole group instead of just pulling me aside.
    She started reporting to my boss that I didn't understand how to do my job and blah blah blah. I decorated my cubicle with various pictures and, well, my co-workers were just crapheads for the most part.
    The thing is with women: They don't want confrontation. They're evil and catty and would rather talk behind others' backs instead of going to the source of the problem. Hell, if they WENT to the source of the problem, half the time they'd find out that THEY'RE the source of the problem! And if a woman (most, anyway) IS faced with confrontation, ooooh, it'll get NASTY and emotional. The claws will come out and some MEAN words will fly ALL over. AND they'll drag AS MANY witnesses into as possible! Crap, they'll MAKE UP witnesses. They'll backstab without thinking twice about it.
    I think it was Glenda that said that male dogs will fight for dominance and then it's done. Bitches will fight to the DEATH.
    If that's the case, this is not limited to just dogs. Human females are like this too. Once they have it in their minds that they don't like another woman, MAN! they won't stop the destruction until that woman is DESTROYED COMPLETELY.

    And it's sad. It really is. I learned a LOT working in an office full of women. I will NEVER allow myself to be walked on or treated poorly again. Not without confronting the person about it. I mean, I cannot stop how people treat me, but I can let it be known that I won't tolerate it.

    So, Shelly, I'm glad that your women helped you out. SOMETIMES women can be disgusting to work with, but then when you need them, they'll pull together like a team to help you out.
    You got lucky!
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    OMG, there are almost THIRTY of us at the doggie daycare I work at. One of the first points we go over during orientation is that gossip IS NOT ALLOWED. Do we gossip? Heck yes. The one girl that left because she was having ''surgury''? We all knew she was getting a boob job [:D] Yep, gotta be careful what you say and who you say it to.
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    The last job I had I had the coworker from hell.  Literally.  I'm a size 6 or 8 depending on the clothing, sometimes, but rarely a 10, depending on the cut and whether or not I'm having a FAT day....she was a size 16-18  She resented my size.  Ummmm, you too can loose 50 lbs but it's tough to do when you sit at your desk shoving candy in your mouth allllll day every day.  Full sugar soft drinks don't help much either.  But YOU eat all day....yep, true, I do graze all day, on stuff like fruit, on stuff like cheese or other protein high snacks...I rarely sit and EAT a meal....I snack instead because I'm more comfy that way.
     
    The VERY first thing the woman said to me when I walked in the door on day one is that she was MUCH older than she looked.  I "almost" gasped in disbelief that she could NOT be in her 60's...cuz I would have guessed her at late 40's.....she's 40.  Thank goodness I bit my tongue!   Her constant references to MY age got really, REALLY old......
     
    Lets see, I drink coffee...that's nasty stuff.  I cook....worse I LOVE to cook.  Her kids friends love to come to her house since she does stuff like mac and cheese or frozen dinners.  OK, cool. Whatever floats your boat.  I happen to ENJOY time in the kitchen, so shoot me.  What else?  PANTY HOSE or tights??  They squeeze you.  Ummm, try buying the proper size.  But, that I wear them, well, something wrong with me there....and don't dare to show up in the office in a SKIRT.....she just wouldn't stop.  Dress boots?  Uggggghhhh!  Those HURT!  Well, actually, no they don't hurt.....they feel wonderful if you buy the right size and style.  YOU EAT SALAD????  Don't eat it in MY office.  And that didn't mean her desk that meant the office suite....salad GAGGED her.
     
    I used too much pencil lead.  I couldn't print out the job listings from the state job service cuz that wasted paper and ink....and heaven FORBID I try to print out a map....YIKES!!!  That wasted COLOR ink too.  Besides, sales people should all have a built in GPS and shouldn't NEED a map.....never mind that writing all this stuff down on a legal pad was wasting said pencil leads AND paper.......
     
    I had any number of items vanish from my desk....my call report binder (they were only copies tho) my tickler file system, food items like oatmeal, cereal bars, several spoons, my coffee cup, etc, but SHE never had anything missing. Almost everything of mine that vanished was work related and pretty important stuff.  But she never had anything missing  Yeah, right.  But so much as ONE mechanical pencil got used and she was all over me.  Our office shared a kitchen (storage space for the office supplies) and a bathroom with another office, so those folks had full access to all our stuff, but clearly I was pilpering mechanical pencils and lysol wipes......she finally stopped asking me about stupid stuff when she emailed me about a coffee cup disappearing and I told her that maybe it ran away with my spoons.
     
    This gal was completely and totally unqualified for her job.  Her own HUSBAND says that she isn't good with people!  And, man, was she EVER an oddball.  I'm being kind here by saying that her hormones must have just completely have been raging out of control 24/7!  I honestly would have a very good and very valid suit for a hostile work environment.
     
    By contrast, so far, the folks I'm working with now, are all wonderful....including the women.
     
    However, in general, I agree, men are MUCH easier folks to work with.
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    My last job was case management in Domestic Violence.

     The way the case managers treated one another was awful.   The way they treated the (women) clients was even worse.

    I will never work with women again.  Call me naive, but I was absolutely appalled to find out how horribly women treated one another.
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    Yay!!!![sm=clapping%20hands%20smiley.gif]There really are good and bad sides to working with just women, right?  I'm glad you got it all figured out.
     
    There are plenty of bitches in my school that think they are far better than everyone else...
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    ORIGINAL: probe1957

    If you think it is bad working with a vindictive, hormonal, backstabbing, bitchy woman, you ought to try being MARRIED to one.  [:)]


    why am i not suprised??
     
    ETA a wink and a smile 
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    i have any number of horror stories about working with women.  most of them come from working in a factory with a greater percentage of men, and there are so many stories of lies and tattletales and idiocy i can't begin to share them.  i'd rather forget them, anyway.  they just get me riled up.
     
    what i wonder is:  WHY are women so mean to each other?  i mean, what is the PROBLEM????  the ways of the world work against us as it is; why would we make it worse by working against each other?
     
    i'm not sin-free in the "badly behaved women" department, and i actually have spent a lot of time thinking about what MY problem has been, and i can never figure it out.....
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    WOW everyone…i am so SHOCKED I didn#%92t get flamed here…. I really thought for sure I would. Thank you for sharing your opinions....[:)]
     
      First off let me say that I agree with EVERYTHING all of you ladies are saying.  I don#%92t understand why women are so mean to one another, especially in the workplace????

      I actually just wrote out a long email the other day about this very topic…women/women dynamics and while I won#%92t go into detail about all I said, I honestly believe that it all comes down to competition…whether they actually know it or not, women are inherently competitive with one another (and I actually think without them realizing it is subconsciously competition for men… even when men aren't around to compete for...).

      Men are FAR easier to work with because just like Liesje said… men are much more straight forward. They also usually aren#%92t hormonal[;)]…. and I trust men FAR more than women too. I often will share far more personal things about my life with a man than a woman because I don#%92t truly trust many of them.  I have been let down by past friendships with a woman, but never so with my male friends .

      AND YES..I totally agree…when a woman is in need… the girls are GREAT about helping out![sm=dance.gif]

    If you think it is bad working with a vindictive, hormonal, backstabbing, bitchy woman, you ought to try being MARRIED to one.


    Billy- this is exactly why I could never be lesbian... perhaps YOU need to reconsider your sexual orientation???[:)]