Anybody ever hear of this maniac

I wonder what she does to H A B the dogs that should know better?[]

"I try and answer every question I receive on dog training. I may often come across a little on the blunt side, (some may call it brash). That is because I consider myself an advocate for dogs and not dog handlers. I am an advocate for common sense dog training and not the latest fad that appears on the horizon. Good dog training is not rocket science, it#%92s common sense."
 
Here's the quote from his website.  So common sense tells him to beat an animal?  i'm hoping he doesn't have kids.

Is this guy for real???

My stepdaughter has had this dog for awhile.  I feel that she is way too permissive with the dog and wants to treat him like a buddy instead of a dog.  I think that if she makes rules that have to be followed (no going on the furniture, no sleeping on the bed, sit before being fed, etc.) and take the leader role, he will be a better dog.  He does growl at her occassionally (usually resource guarding) but I worry that she doesn't have the power to be consistant and assertive with this dog.

I've seen too many dogs return to shelters and rescues because the rescuer pampers and babies a dog that 1. wants to know who is the boss and 2. wants to know what the rules are.  If there are no rules, most dogs will create his/her own - that makes the dog the boss.

I know that I am playing devil's advocate, here, but Leerburg has been around in the Shutzhund world for a long time.

Oh...my...god...

ORIGINAL: glenmar

 ............and make HIS balls shrink up to the size of raisens...

 
Bet you 10 bucks he doesn't have any.
 
UGH.  Frightening.  Truly frightening.
 
Kate

I've seen too many dogs return to shelters and rescues because the rescuer pampers and babies a dog that 1. wants to know who is the boss and 2. wants to know what the rules are. If there are no rules, most dogs will create his/her own - that makes the dog the boss.

 
I doubt you'll find anyone here who'll argue with the statement above.  However, physically abusing dogs isn't the way most eople (fortunately) choose to teach thier dogs that we're in charge.  There is so much evidence that positive reinforcement training works much better than physical punishment and there are lots of good books written by people like Susan Clothier and others to help. . 

I wish Ron lived around this guy... knock some sense into him!  I am SO upset to learn this guy is out there giving people advice... Why doesnt some animal committee not BAN HIS IDIOCY????????  WHY is he allowed to do this, MY GOD!??

And diane303 - Are you suggesting if a dog bit a child this may be some reasonable action to take?????  Because I assure you I would NEVER do that even IF the dang dog bit my child in the face.  Thats absolutely rediculous!

You know I truly cant believe he is out there giving advice, but I REALLY REALLY REALLY cant believe there are people who would follow it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!AAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!

Before I bust a vein Ill stop for now

Leerburg has been Breeding & Training protection dogs since 1980.
What he does works, like it or lump it.

PC nonsense of pretty please, give the dog a treat and treating dogs like fur babies has given us banned breeds, BSL, dangerous dog laws and an epidemic of Dogs attacking children world wide. Some of the millions of out of control dogs euthanized in shelters & pounds may well have been able to stay home if they had been successfully trained.

Two extremes, lets get back into the middle ground. Treat dogs as dogs and make sure they are the lowest member in the pack. Train them to obey now not just if they feel like it and just maybe we will be able to keep dogs as pets a while longer.

You should be able to groom, handle or hold down your dog anytime you feel like it and so should all members of your extended family of any age, yes, babies too. We never had to keep dogs & kids apart. When a two year old wandered over & took our male Chow's full food dish away the dog just sat till the dish was returned ~ as he had been trained to do.
The kids mother was horrified but very pleased the kid hadn't tried it with their own dog.

I've been training my own dogs since 1970 ........
The banned breed list is getting longer, will your breed be next?

This guy doesn't seem to understand pack behavior as well as he thinks he does. Alpha position in the pack means first chance to eat, first chance at mating rights with the alpha female, but it doesn't mean that each member of the pack receives whatever, food, attention, play time, at the express permission of the alpha. I would suggest that he actually observe some wolves before he comments any further on pack behavior. I do agree that unwanted behavior should be addressed immediately. I know some trainers even advocate euthanasia for an ill-tempered dog. But I would not beat or choke a dog. I have, however, used a scruff and eye-lock with Shadow and it has worked. It was not painful to him but was similar to what he would have received from momma dog. And I didn't use it at every instant, only in dire circumstances, such as when he was trying to pick a fight with my in-law's Lhasa Apso. Afterward, he followed only me and wouldn't look at her even whens he started barking again. And, I've controlled him better with treat-based obedience since then. That is, I don't beat him or shake him and I get the best obedience out of him with treats but he does know that I am the big dog.
 
I also disagree with this guy who's solution to everything is shove them in a crate and never allow contact with anyone or anything again. All that does, IMO, is foster a fear of the unknown or strange.
 
Here's how I dealt with Shadow rearing up on guests (all in a gesture of exuberant love, btw). A few times I would pull him off of them and hold him by his scruff, not hard, but a way to control his movements, as if he were in harness and leash.  Other times, a "no." Patience on my part for 20 minutes helped him realize that he wasn't going to get what he wanted and that I could outlast him and he finally settled down and laid down. Because I am the big dog. Thanks to my mom, I could give stubborn lessons to a mule. And I would keep correcting him, whether it is "no," or physically pulling him away and introducing a sit or down, with commands I already developed with treats, until he finally realizes that this is how we behave in company. And patience has paid off. He is more ready to obey these days, through simple repetition in different circumstances. So, when I say that I scruff him, I don't mean I grab a handful of neckhide and lift him off of the ground. It just takes the place of harness and leash if he's not in them.
 
And, I'm not impressed with the way the guy browbeats people earnestly asking questions.
 
I was raised by my mother with avoidanceor negative conditioning. I obeyed to avoid getting whipped or hit in the face, which where the standard punishments. Look what happened to me.[]

ORIGINAL: cavowner
PC nonsense of pretty please, give the dog a treat and treating dogs like fur babies has given us banned breeds, BSL, dangerous dog laws and an epidemic of Dogs attacking children world wide.

 
First of all, little pet peeve of mine, I hate the term "PC." It has no real meaning and is just a way to dismiss opinions with which you disagree.
 
I think it's odd (to put it mildly) that you attribute BSL and the dog bite epidemic to PR training. Do you really think that dangerous bully breed dogs were PR trained but turned vicious? That to me is just a total non sequitur. It's true that dog bites are up right now and the CDC have issued a warning about a "dog bite epidemic" - however, I think that right now the alpha rolling school of thought is far more popular in this country than PR and clicker training, and Cesar Millan is wildly popular and well known - I can barely go a day without hearing someone rave about how great the "Dog Whisperer" is - so make of that what you will.
 

You should be able to groom, handle or hold down your dog anytime you feel like it and so should all members of your extended family of any age, yes, babies too. We never had to keep dogs & kids apart. When a two year old wandered over & took our male Chow's full food dish away the dog just sat till the dish was returned ~ as he had been trained to do. The kids mother was horrified but very pleased the kid hadn't tried it with their own dog.

 
You should be able to, but even picture perfect training can not make every dog that trustworthy. Genetics and early experiences (wrt socialization) are extremely important and influential factors. Frankly I think it is horrifying that you would let a two year old steal a dog's dinner bowl, perfectly trained or no. It's unfair to the dog, and I still think it's unnecessarily risky no matter how well behaved the dog has been until now.

You people defending him are so totally backwards I feel sorry for your lack of knowledge, and for your dog should he do something wrong.
 
Its HIS kind of people who BEAT animals that cause attacks... NOT positive reinforcement and treats.  You CAN do this another way.... IF.... *IF*  you had the patience and mentality needed.  Unfortunatley all too many people have such a short temper.... I bet they beat their kids too.  Do not attemp to justify a bad temper.... or beating a dog for that matter.[:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@]

WHOA! Just Whoa! I've heard of this guy before, but I have never seen that crazy advice from him. All I can say is, I can't punish very well. I just don't like doing it. Anyway, that advice is dangerous in the hands of the wrong person. Perhaps he can do that, but I don't think I could do that. I don't think Max would let me without tearing me up.
And, in regards to the resource guarding protocol that Jensw posted earlier, i've used it with Max, and it works well. At one point, I tried getting something from him, and he bit me so hard that my arm bled at least a half hour. I've actually got a little scar left on my arm. Max brings his bones over in my lap now, and if I don't feel like having a bone in my lap, I just pick it up and drop it on the floor, or put it somewhere else. He just had a bone in my lap, not an old one, but a good new one, with meat on it and marrow in it still, right now that I picked up and put on the floor because I don't really feel like having a wet leg.

You should be able to, but even picture perfect training can not make every dog that trustworthy. Genetics and early experiences (wrt socialization) are extremely important and influential factors. Frankly I think it is horrifying that you would let a two year old steal a dog's dinner bowl, perfectly trained or no. It's unfair to the dog, and I still think it's unnecessarily risky no matter how well behaved the dog has been until now.

Jones, The kid was supposed to be with his mother ~ I'm not B.. stupid

Just pointing out that dog owners have to train their dogs for ALL eventualities..
Would your dog be safe with strange kids pinching his dinner?

No it isn't difficult to train for, picking up a dogs dinner dish, full or empty, is just another non verbal sit command.

loveukaykay, I have 4 grandkids and this Granny doesn't beat up on dogs or grandkids. I certainly do not loose my temper either. I train my dogs to be as kid safe as possible.