I Have GREAT dogs

Wow!! Good dogs!!

And what in the world were those guys THINKING??  It's not enough that you don't answer your front door, they trespass and try the back door?  Duh??

Wow!!  Definitely scary.  I hope you can get the quarantine taken away.  Those guys totally shouldn't have been there, especially at the BACK door.

 You DO have GREAT dogs!!

Wow!

Good job Cher, Bevo, & Brutus!

 ha stupid religious fanatics. Serves them right!

Sorry, Amanda, but I think if the poster of this story had been a forum newbie, it would be met with a very different response. I really don't think it's a good idea to celebrate aggression towards strangers, even if they're where they shouldn't be (like at the back door). I'm glad that neither dogs nor humans were seriously injured, but it could have been a very different ending.

I know you post all the time about how well-trained your dogs are in many challenging situations, which shows you clearly put a ton of time into training and socializing them. Still, regardless of training level, I really think it's dangerous to have dogs whose first instinct is to attack strangers on "their" property. Barking and growling and "cornering" people until you get there is one thing, but actually grabbing and dragging someone? Assuming the story isn't significantly embellished, I don't think that kind of canine behavior is something to applaud.

If any lurkers are reading, I don't want them to come away from the thread with the idea that a dog (especially something like a Doberman) should be rewarded for attacking people, regardless of whether they're in the front of the house, back of the house, preaching about Jesus, or delivering Christmas fruitcake. I don't believe we should trust dogs' judgment as to who is a threat and is "okay" to attack and who is not - that's our job to judge. Today's unwanted Jehovah's Witness is tomorrow's delivery guy with bad judgment.

Sorry, I don't mean to be a thread-pooper, but I really think that encouraging that type of "protection" is dangerous. How often do we come down hard on posters who want a dog "for protection"? And we say that it's a bad idea, dangerous to others, a bad representation of the breed, etc.?

I'm very glad that all the people and dogs came out of this more or less okay. It's a good thing you were there to watch them!

*removed by moderator*  I too have been bothered by those folks and they simply do NOT get the hint.

I'd be tempted to build an altar to Satan and put it right inside, covered by a pretty basket.  Then when the Witnesses come, invite them in and start your own converting. They won't be hurrying back any time soon.

Joyce

Nice job, guys !!! 

Deb W.

Holy Crappola!

I am still snickering at the "so I pulled the gun out of my purse" part of the story.  Gotta love Texans!

We had one of them actually open our front storm door (we were home but chose not to answer it) and "peak" inside since our big door was open they thought it was OK.  I think Charlie made them poop their pants.  He would never do anything, he just wants to be friends, but he is soo soo loud.

I threatened to call the police for trespassing...never came back.

 I was going to stay out of it. But I'll make one post and be done with it since I have already spoken to Amanda, and she knows my standing.

On that note:  There were numerous signs on the fence, the JW's had been asked repeatedly not to come back.  And yet they walked to the BACK door knowing all this.  I'm sorry but I would feel more sympathetic if this was their first visit. Also Amanda had stated that there were burglaries in the neighbor hood.  The Doberman is bred to protect their family and that is exactly what they did.  In hindsight, would it have been better if they just did a bark and hold, probably. But even then, the guy probably would have tried to run and still end up bitten.

In my experience,  the JW's around here do not give up unless extreme measures are taken. They would not leave my house alone until I set Maze on them. Did she bite? No, she's not trained that way. But she did give them one heck of a scare. And sometimes that's what it takes. 

And if the person at the door had been a crash victim or a delivery guy, the dogs probably would have acted differently. But they picked up on Amanda's fear of a coyote or a burglar and it fed their response. 

I'm backing out now but just one last thing.

Good on ya Bev and Cher!

Good dogs, Cher & Bevo! 

Cita

Sorry to be a party pooper, but what if the Jehovah's Wittnesses had instead been, say, a victim of a car crash who was pounding frantically at your door to get help?...

They would have been knocking on the FRONT door, not the back.  And, that said, I am highly suspicious of these two actually being JWs- just because they were at the back door.  Me thinks they were trying to see if anybody was home so they could rob the place. 

Amanda, I solved our JW problem here by returning what I found blowing around the yard one day (had been stuck in the door, but the wind blew it out) and including a note asking to be removed from their "visit" list and if I found anything else stuck in my door I would be filing a littering complaint.  I also explained that I respect everyones religious views, but I don't push my religion on them and would appreciate the same in return.

oranges81

 I was going to stay out of it. But I'll make one post and be done with it since I have already spoken to Amanda, and she knows my standing.

On that note:  There were numerous signs on the fence, the JW's had been asked repeatedly not to come back.  And yet they walked to the BACK door knowing all this.  I'm sorry but I would feel more sympathetic if this was their first visit. Also Amanda had stated that there were burglaries in the neighbor hood.  The Doberman is bred to protect their family and that is exactly what they did.  In hindsight, would it have been better if they just did a bark and hold, probably. But even then, the guy probably would have tried to run and still end up bitten.

In my experience,  the JW's around here do not give up unless extreme measures are taken. They would not leave my house alone until I set Maze on them. Did she bite? No, she's not trained that way. But she did give them one heck of a scare. And sometimes that's what it takes. 

And if the person at the door had been a crash victim or a delivery guy, the dogs probably would have acted differently. But they picked up on Amanda's fear of a coyote or a burglar and it fed their response. 

I'm backing out now but just one last thing.

Good on ya Bev and Cher!

Someone whose car had broken down or had an accident would probably NOT be climbing trees - did it ever occur to you that the perfect cover for burglars would be to dress up like Jehovah's Witnesses and case each house on a street?  Oops, no one home at this one, so let's go 'round back and see if we can find the open window and the jewelry box...  If you go onto someone's property without permission when you have no business there, you run a risk, even if you are an accident victim.

 Firstly, I'll note that I'm not certain any of my dogs would do more than bark. That said, if I came home and someone were in my fenced yard pounding on my back door (particularly if there were no trespassing signs posted and it actually required them to enter through a gate..which it sounds like in this case) I'd hope my dogs would at least put the fear of god into that person. It shows a grave lack of common sense on their part