We have accepted defeat......

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    I'm probably in the minority here, but IF you have put the effort in like this person has, there is nothing wrong with giving up on a dog. We let dogs in to our homes for the joy and companionship they bring. When an owner really tries and fails with a dog, there is no shame in giving up. They gave this dog a chance, used up a lot of time and resources, but it just didn't work out. It is an animal after all. People and their needs should come first.
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    I am sorry but three months is NOT a long time to train these behaviors, they are all trainable with hard work.  It can take three months alone just to train one command never mind trying to stop all these puppy issues.  Chewing and potting are so, so normal for a new dog or a young dog - she is not trying to be bad!!  What were you expecting for this dog?  Did you think she was already trained?  If you have been working on training for the last three months and are not successfuly in the least than you need a new trainer, a new protocol and new bunch of energy to start over again.

    The chewing and potty issues are easy to control thru management until she is trained.  Don't hesitate to use the crate; it is a valuable tool for now and he is not worse while in it, she is better.  Again, three months isn't a long time to have a dog and train it.  Training, no matter what, it a must.   But you have to dedicate yourself to doing it.  It took my dog 11 months (from 8 weeks to a year) to be reliable in the house.  He only now is not chewing and he is 2.5 years old.  Lots of this is only stages that all dogs go through.

    Getting loose and running away are things dogs will do if not closely managed.  You leaned your lesson and now that won't happen again, right?  Most of the time it is the human who need to "learn" how to have a pet, keep it and train it and make it your family.  If she were trained to "come” on command your hubby would have been able to get her to return or if she were trained a reliable "stay” she would have never took off.  But again, this is training and it takes A LOT of time and commitment.  I took me a full year to teach a reliable "come” command to my dog.  Daily training with a long lead and lots of treats and patients, if your not going to have the time or the commitment to train the dog some basics now it is never going to get better I am afraid.   Get yourself and your husband commitment to having a good and well trained dog and start doing the work now.  Consistently working the dog and expecting little progress not lots of progress.  Please go to a training class, hike up to a more advance class if you thing your dog know these commands well enough.   Basic commands taught reliably are all you need.  Sit, Stay, Come, down, trade – pick one and start training it now and then another and another and another.   I hear your frustration but it seems like you didn't know what you were getting yourself into by getting a dog.  This is not a bad dog, just an untrained dog and every dog is exactly like yours until someone takes the time and energy to train it.  It not very often that you find a perfectly trained dog just waiting for you and if that is what you were hoping for you learned quickly that isn't the case.  They do get better as they mature, but training is a must!!  Chewing?  Please my dog chewed apart my mattress when he was only 5 months old!!  Someone should have beat me for leaving him in that room while I went shopping, I quickly learned that he was going to be crated when I couldn't watch him.  When your home and he is out and about and he picks up something he shouldn't train him to drop it or trade.  Again, "train” is the key word.  Don't expect that after a month he is going to drop or trade everything, he may not but you will begin to see he will learn what he is allowed and what he is not.  I would hope that you took this dog hoping to give it a forever home?  So do just that!  You don't have any problems really that can't be fixed with some hard work. 
     
    I don't mean to sound harsh but if are your giving up?  Do you not want to take the time and energy to train this dog?  If that is the case then please do return it so it can be given that chance at a home that it can count on.  If its just that you are thinking the dog can't change, you are so wrong.  Read through this forum and talk to the people who have successfully changed and trained their dogs - there are many, many stories!!  I have one if your interested, PM me and I will share.  My husband was going to have my dog put to sleep for aggression issues - I put my foot down and read, learned and trained.  Now only 1.5 years later we are both so glad we didn't do something we would have regreated and happy to have the dog we have today.  If you truely love him and want to keep him do whats best for "her" and if you beleive you don't have time, resources or enery then given her another chance with another family is the answer than so be it.
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    We say we didnt' chose her, she choose us...... We were at the shelter looking at dogs.. they had 2 labs we were interested in.... 1 was WAYYYY tooooooo hyper..... he was almost uncontrollable, the other was a puppy---and I said NO to the puppy because i didn't want the potty training and the chewing--little did i know,........ Anyway, we told the shelter no, we weren't interested, and we turned to go, and roxi barked, my husband looked toward her, and asked the lady what was up with that lab.... and she said they had just gotten her in, she wasn't ready for adoption yet..... well, we took roxi out for a walk, she walked right beside us, didn't pull the leash, she could 'sit' 'shake' she pottied outside.... we took her back in the shelter and asked when she would be ready, well, the lady said the next day or two..... we went home, that was a tuesday..... thought about it, talked about it etc etc.... went back on Saturday and adopted her... She's 3 years old..... Her last owners moved from a rented farm house into town into an apartment and couldn't keep her..... They said she favored females, and was really a good dog.... They said she was housetrained, and we didn't have trouble with her pottying on the floor until we got the crate... We only used the crate when we were going to be gone for a long time... but now, she's in it a lot more, and i'm not sure she likes it!!!!
     
    She has a stuffable type kong ball, not a real kong ball, but it works :)  She has a hard rubber thing connecting two "mouth size" balls.... and bones..... she gets one on Monday morning, and usually by thursday it's gone... Most chewy toy things we've boughten her--she destroys in minutes.... we have to get hard rubber type toys for her to chew....
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    luvmyswissy...... it really upsets me that you said "Do you not want to take the time and energy to train this dog?" We have went WAYYYY above and beyond what we EVER thought we would have to do for this dog..... We were told by the shelter, a long walk once a day, dog park 2-3 days a week...... that's all the exercise she needs..... We go to the dog park 7 days a week---rain or shine for a minimum of an hour!!! We drive 20 miles 1 way so she can play/swim in the lake...... One of the books someone suggested on this thread, I've already gotten AND read..... I went out last night and bought more toys and treats to help train her.......
     
    It upsets me that you say I don't want to take the time and energy to train Roxi....... I've NEVER, i repeat NEVER had a dog, owned a dog, or even knew anyone that has owned a dog...... I thought I could get a good dog, take her potty, take her out to exercise, go for walks, go for rides in the car..... and have a friend.... I didn't know I was getting a dog with Separation Anxiety, peeing on the floor, eating EVERYTHING she could get her mouth on... dog.... When I told the shelter what we wanted, the first thing was house trained, the second was i didn't want a puppy cuz i didn't want a chewer...... I didnt' get a puppy, i got a 3 year old dog that does those 2 very things.....
     
    I'm sorry, I don't mean to rant and rave..... But considering what I "thought" i was getting and what I "got" --I've went above and beyond...... I've realized there are things I need to do to train her to be the dog our family wanted... I was just at wits end, becuase I thought when we adopted her, she WAS the dog our family wanted.... and I had NO IDEA how to train her or how to get her to be the pet we wanted.....
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    I'm sorry, I don't mean to rant and rave

     
    Rhonda - I was going to rant and rave on your behalf, so don't feel bad :)
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    let me give you a brief run-down on our Don't eat the house puppy training: rule number 1 is the puppy is either confined or under direct supervision at all times, no exceptions, very important to never let the puppy practice bad habits. Direct supervision means 100% of your attention is on the puppy. Not 90%, 100%. Once had a puppy destroy an expensive stereo in approximately 10 seconds of displaced attention, so the 100% rule is a must.  If you can't watch puppy like a hawk, puppy is either tethered to a person, tethered at his chewing mat (will describe later) or is confined in a puppy-proofed room. We don't use crates much. Crates are ok for short periods of confinement or overnight sleeping if you can't rig up a puppy confinement area.
     
    The chewing mat is our highly successful method of teaching puppies what they may or may not chew. The rules are simple: anything on the mat may be chewed, anything off the mat may not be chewed. So the poor dog isn't faced with the daunting task of trying to memorize a long list of "items that may not be chewed". And the dog must remain on the mat while chewing. We start off by tethering the puppy there so he can't get off the mat, and give him a yummy chew. Then once he has stopped any attempt to get off the mat, tether is removed and we watch closely. If he tries to take the chewy off the mat, the chewy goes bye-bye. Many people do a similar thing by only giving the dog chews in a crate. So dog learns he can only chew stuff you give him in the crate. Really bad idea to scatter dog toys and dog chews all over the house, it's very confusing to the dog about what he can touch and what he can't touch.
    As for chews, your best bet is raw bones from the grocery store. Most dogs will pick a meaty raw bone over your shoes 100%  of the time; however, your shoes are probably much more attractive than some boring rubber bone.My dogs get a fresh bone practically every day, don't be stingy, it's cheaper than replacing all of your possessions.
     
    Even though you say the dog was obedience trained, I would suggest enrolling him in some kind of training class (a fun tricks class, perhaps?) and take him and train him yourself. Gives the dog something to do, and helps develop the lines of communication between you and the dog.
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    I totally understand what you are saying Rhonda. I would not expect those issues from a three year old dog either. It is often recommended that people get adult shelter dogs if they don't want to potty train or need a calmer dog, but I have to say, I've had three adult shelter dogs, and none of them came potty trained. They had issues ranging from minor things like leash pulling and escape artistry, to severe seperation anxiety and house eating like what you describe. It's a grab bag. You could get a nice, easy dog, or a dog that needs serious work. In my experience adult rescues have never been any easier or required any less training than my puppies have. I don't mean to be down on shelter dogs, I just wonder sometimes when we recommend them to first time or busy owners, if that is always a good idea.
     
    But, you have the dog now, it stinks that you got the very issues you didn't feel you could deal with, but I applaud you again for sticking it out. It does sound like there is hope for this girl.
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    Thanks for the encouragement..... Roxi seems to be liking the tethered to our sides though :) She likes being "involved" in everything anyway :) 
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    Glad to hear the tethering is going well for both you and Roxi [;)]  My dog is the same way.  He has to know everything that is going on.
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    If she likes it, so much the better! It's not a punishment after all, just a management strategy.
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    I've NEVER, i repeat NEVER had a dog, owned a dog, or even knew anyone that has owned a dog...... I thought I could get a good dog, take her potty, take her out to exercise, go for walks, go for rides in the car..... and have a friend.... I didn't know I was getting a dog with Separation Anxiety, peeing on the floor, eating EVERYTHING she could get her mouth on

     
    Sorry I can't help but finding it kind of funny.  You won't get this with any dog.  Even the ones that have been trained and housebroken.  They aren't perfect.  They are individuals.  It's the same with every animal and if you have experience with animals you learn this.  Even with the best behaved ones you can expect something to get destroyed or some mess on the floor.  They are like kids that never grow up.  At some point they will all test your patience and you will have to work with all of them through individual difficulties.  None of them come perfect or will ever be perfect.  That doesn't mean you don't have a friend.  Daily Zami does something she shouldn't and she is not just my friend but my partner in everything.  She is shy around people and requires extra effort on my part to keep her calm, she dumped some unknown substance she snuck into the house onto my new carpet last night, she won't stop trying to play with the sick little kitten I'm trying to care for, and I have to walk her 5 times a day on all out runs just to keep her from bouncing off the walls and destroying things.  Still she is perfect to me.  I have a horse I raised from a foal that followed me everywhere and nearly walked into the house once.  It took me 2 years to get her to stop trying to kick me and convince her that I was leader instead of part of her herd and a year after starting to ride her she still throws fits about doing what I say and tries to throw me off.  Pulled all the muscles up my legs yesterday.  I love that horse.  I wouldn't sell her for anything.  She's my partner.  Irregardless of her faults.  I think you need to reconsider your definition of a friend.  A friend is not a perfect person or animal who does everything you want.  A friend is someone who still likes you after seeing all your faults.  I'm sure Roxi sees you that way.  How do you see her?
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    luvmyswissy...... it really upsets me that you said "Do you not want to take the time and energy to train this dog?"


    I am sorry I upset you and I apologize if I did.  I know I seem harsh, if you were here I would be holding your hand and giving you a heart to heart talk.   I know you are in turmoil but it is not the end of the world.. really.  I know she has more needs than you signed up for so if you really can't or won't give this dog what it needs, then please give it back.  Maybe, just maybe it will lucky and find someone who will want and keep her.

    We have went WAYYYY above and beyond what we EVER thought we would have to do for this dog.....
     

    No you haven't, you think you have but you haven't, that is my point.  There is so.. much more you can do before you have went above and beyond.   What you are doing is everything you hoped you would be able to do with a pre-trained older dog.  But that is not what you got.

    We were told by the shelter, a long walk once a day, dog park 2-3 days a week...... that's all the exercise she needs..... We go to the dog park 7 days a week---rain or shine for a minimum of an hour!!! We drive 20 miles 1 way so she can play/swim in the lake......


    Excellent!! and I bet she just loves you for it and that you enjoy it too.  Exercise is where most people fail and it is a key component to helping your dog and her issues.   But there is much more this dog needs.  It needs patients, training and leadership.  All of which you can give this dog if you are willing to learn how.  And it will give you the dog you intended to have.

    I am sorry you feel this way and that the shelter gave you bad info.  Even you said they only just got the dog and had it a couple of days, so obviously they didn't know the dog either.  That is wrong and I am sorry they didn't take the time to evaluate and place this dog properly.  HOWEVER, you have her now, she has come to love and depend on you. 

    One of the books someone suggested on this thread, I've already gotten AND read..... I went out last night and bought more toys and treats to help train her.......


    EXCELLANT!!  This is the start of owning a great dog.  Enroll in a class too, you won't regret it. 

    It upsets me that you say I don't want to take the time and energy to train Roxi....... I've NEVER, i repeat NEVER had a dog, owned a dog, or even knew anyone that has owned a dog...... I thought I could get a good dog, take her potty, take her out to exercise, go for walks, go for rides in the car..... and have a friend....
     

    If you never knew anyone or owned a dog before where did you get that misconception?  Its water under the bridge now so you have to decided if you make a bad mistake or took on a huge commitment to your dog.  It's kind of like saying "I want a divorce” I've NEVER, I repeat NEVER had a husband or knew a married couple.  I thought I could get a husband who keep the house clean, do the laundry and cook.  I never knew he would mess up the house, throw his undies over the back or the couch, kick back and watch football all day, fart and burp!  His mother told me he was would be good husband.  [:D] (just and analogy, trying to put my thoughts in perceptive for you)

    I sympathize with you!!  Really I do and I sorry you were so delusion on what it takes to be a pet owner. You posted here for advice and you're getting it.  Now you try it or you don't – that is your choice.  But remember now that you know and tell the Shelter they will have to tell prospective owners who most likely will decline to take her too.  So like an old car she may end up in the scrap heap, 6 feet under – please consider that alternative.

      Separation Anxiety, peeing on the floor, eating EVERYTHING she could get her mouth on... dog....
      You can fix this with hard work, dedication and time.


    When I told the shelter what we wanted, the first thing was house trained, the second was i didn't want a puppy cuz i didn't want a chewer...... I didnt' get a puppy, i got a 3 year old dog that does those 2 very things.....
      Shame on the shelter for not taking the time to get to know this dog and giving you what they were hoping was a non problem dog.  But again, its water under the bridge I am afraid.

    I'm sorry, I don't mean to rant and rave..... But considering what I "thought" i was getting and what I "got" --I've went above and beyond...... I've realized there are things I need to do to train her to be the dog our family wanted... I was just at wits end, becuase I thought when we adopted her, she WAS the dog our family wanted.... and I had NO IDEA how to train her or how to get her to be the pet we wanted.....


    It's ok to rant and rave and I can understand your frustration, I really do!!  I feel sorry for you that you are in this situation.  I also feel sorry for the dog that could be a great pet I am sure.  But again, she is yours now so forget what you wanted, and work with what you have and be proud of the progress.   Go to the Vet and have her checked for any kind of infection or incontinence, they have meds that can cure or help her if she has a medical problem.  I don't know why the crate would change her potty habits, but keep up with her and don't let her out of your sight, my guess is it will stop as quickly as it started.  Her chewing will stop too, with your eye on her, training and as she become comfortable in your home with your rules.  Three months is NOT a long time.  Separation anxiety is a hard one but can be modified and controlled.  I think you need to give this dog a better chance then what she will have if placed back in the shelter.  You can do it, just commit yourself to what you have and changing it instead of being PO'd because she isn't what you wanted.  There are a lot of people here with great info, book suggestions and who have had all the same problems you have that can and will support you.

    I hope both you and Roxi finds a happy ending to this situation you are BOTH in - really I do.  I just pray that you think it through and not make a hasty decision due to lack of knowledge and frustration. 
     
    ETA:  I also know that rescue dogs have an adjustment period that is probably longer for some than others.  Maybe DPU will come accross your post and offer some insight since he resuces dogs often. 
     
    Again good luck.
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    I've NEVER, i repeat NEVER had a dog, owned a dog, or even knew anyone that has owned a dog...... I thought I could get a good dog, take her potty, take her out to exercise, go for walks, go for rides in the car..... and have a friend.... I didn't know I was getting a dog with Separation Anxiety, peeing on the floor, eating EVERYTHING she could get her mouth on


    Sorry I can't help but finding it kind of funny.  You won't get this with any dog.  Even the ones that have been trained and housebroken.  They aren't perfect.  They are individuals.  It's the same with every animal and if you have experience with animals you learn this.  Even with the best behaved ones you can expect something to get destroyed or some mess on the floor.  They are like kids that never grow up.  At some point they will all test your patience and you will have to work with all of them through individual difficulties.  None of them come perfect or will ever be perfect.  That doesn't mean you don't have a friend.  Daily Zami does something she shouldn't and she is not just my friend but my partner in everything.  She is shy around people and requires extra effort on my part to keep her calm, she dumped some unknown substance she snuck into the house onto my new carpet last night, she won't stop trying to play with the sick little kitten I'm trying to care for, and I have to walk her 5 times a day on all out runs just to keep her from bouncing off the walls and destroying things.  Still she is perfect to me.  I have a horse I raised from a foal that followed me everywhere and nearly walked into the house once.  It took me 2 years to get her to stop trying to kick me and convince her that I was leader instead of part of her herd and a year after starting to ride her she still throws fits about doing what I say and tries to throw me off.  Pulled all the muscles up my legs yesterday.  I love that horse.  I wouldn't sell her for anything.  She's my partner.  Irregardless of her faults.  I think you need to reconsider your definition of a friend.  A friend is not a perfect person or animal who does everything you want.  A friend is someone who still likes you after seeing all your faults.  I'm sure Roxi sees you that way.  How do you see her?

     
    "He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion"
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    Rhonda -- I'm coming late to this, but I'm gonna toss this in here for whatever help it is.
     
    First -- I've had LOTS of dogs, trained lots, had pups, older dogs, problem dogs - shoot my husband and I make it a habit to adopt dogs WITH problems that no one else will take or with health problems that we know *we* can deal with.
     
    Enter Lunabella, basset/beagle mix, 9 month old female.  She was the darling of doggie daycare.  You've never SEEN a dog soooooooooooooooooooooo well socialized.  But her owner couldn't handle her -- so she just schlepped her to doggie daycare 24/7 -- literally this dog was AT doggie daycare every friggin minute it was open. 
     
    Add that up to <<<<<<<<<<<<WILD CHILD>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
     
    Oh lordy.  Within a week I decided we had made THE WORST mistake ever.  This dog bonded GREAT with other dogs -- but frankly she had little use for humans.  sheesh.  Well *except* she decided she liked MY HUSBAND.  Not me.
     
    I should say NOT me.
     
    She drove me freakin nuts.  I've dealt with all kinds of dogs, but in honesty this dog just plain drove me nuts.  AND ***I*** was the one who picked her!!!  ACK!!!!
     
    She was into everything.  Even tethered to me she was into more stuff .... and she wanted the other two to get into trubble WITH her!!
     
    Rhonda - my point is this.  WE **ALL** have to learn sometimes.  In all the many many dogs I've had I've never had a hound before (and Houndlove is up there rolling her eyes at me, cos she knows what i"m gonna say next *grin*)
     
    This dog VOCALIZED all the time.  Bless her heart she had an OPINION and she was gonna give it to you whether you wanted it or not -- whine, moan, whiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnne some more - and at a pitch that about drove me out of my mind. (what little mind I had left by now)
     
    Rhonda -- you know what?  I lived thru it and so did Luna.  In this home with experienced dog handlers and dog saavy people -- she dragged a leash INSIDE for **FOUR** MONTHS.  Outside??  She's STILL leashed much of the time two years later and our yard is *fenced*!!! ~grin!~ yep because we still don't have her recall down where it needs to be and she still will look at you and make that 'choice' to NOT come in. 
     
    She's gotten to be one heck of a good dog.  I had to make more of an effort to 'bond' to her than any dog I have ever had.  SHE has had to try harder to bond with *me* than with my husband.  But we've both decided we really like each other. 
     
    She's still "Daddy's girl".  Billy is still "Mommy's boy".  that's ok --
     
    I just wanted you to know Rhonda -- don't give up.  On anyone -- not the dog, not the husband, not the teenager.  It takes time.  Lots of precious time. 
     
    See, in 3 months all you're seeing is the worst.  You've probably slid past the honeymoon stage without even knowing it.  Typically a dog tries really hard at first because they don't want to get bounced ... but then you're shell-shocked because you don't know what to expect, nor how to prevent it.  You thot crating was only for "long times away".  nope -- they can do more damage in one heartbeat than you'd imagine. 
     
    Crate or tether.  And when you decide to let her off the tether -- LEAVE THE LEASH ON.  Yep, it's ok.  You can so much more easily step on it -- or reach the leash to make sure she does what you've asked her to do.
     
    Everyone's got rules they've given you.  But I'm going to give you a couple more.  Rules for YOU mostly.
     
    1.  Learn to think like a dog.  That takes time, Rhonda.  But it's what will save your bacon.  Like that thot "We're only going to be gone 15 minutes we don't need to crate her for THAT long!"
     
    Nope -- the dog thinks "DOOR CLOSED - they're gone.  OMG I'm ALONE!!!!" freak out.  The mouth either reaches for something for securities sake or they'll go from window to window tearing things up as they go.  That's DOG *think* not human think. 
     
    Dr. Stanley Coren "How to Speak Dog" -- it's a valuable book - it will help you learn to think dog.  You'll find as a human you make all sorts of assumptions that a dog just doesn't do.  Once you begin to see how *they* think, you'll find it easier to out think her and prevent problems.
     
    2.   Never give a command without making sure it's done.  And never give them the option to say 'no'.  Since you've had kids, remember when your daughter was two??  Remember when her every answer was "no".  Remember getting really cautious about not asking a question she can say no to??  "Do you want to go to bed now?"  NO.  "Time for bed, let's go".  But.... "NO butts -- time for bed".
     
    Same principle applies. 
     
    Know how kids know how many times they can 'misbehave' before you yell and "mean it"??  Dogs are BETTER at that than kids are.  Never tell a dog to do something twice.  Say it one time.  THEN get up and go enforce it.  If you say it three times before you enforce it, they'll just learn to count to three!!  They won't *do* it until the 3rd time!  It's easy to zone out and forget you gave a command -- don't do it. 
     
    That's another reason to leave a dog on leash if *you* need some help training.  "Come, girl" -- she doesn't, you pick up the leash and reel her in.  She learns - you *mean* it. 
     
    3.  When you get a behavior problem that is stubborn, be careful -- maybe it's NOT behavioral.    You're having problems with housetraining.  I'm going to suggest, if it hasn't been done already, to take her to the vet and find out if ****possibly**** she could have a persistent but low-grade urinary tract infection.  Literally **ask** if it is at all possible. 
     
    Very often a dog may drink *extra* when they have a uti (they're smarter than we are in that -- when I have a UTI it takes an act of congress to make me want to drink more cos it hurts to go!  But a dog often figures it out fast that the more they drink the less it burns!!).  And then it gets hard to 'hold it' and the first thing when they get distracted or worried -- they pee.  combine that with "I went here yesterday and no one yelled" and it becomes a fast habit. 
     
    They don't think "she'll yell later" -- no, they think "she saw me go and yelled so I have to wait until she LEAVES to go".  They *learn* to elminate immediately when you leave!!     So you leave for 10 minutes and she makes a mess.  "Phew, could hardly wait til they left!!!"
     
    This is again where tethering helps -- and when she elminates in front of you outside where she should have a frigging PARTY.  What a GOOD girl.  Come in and call your husband at work.  Come in and call the time and temperature lady on the phone and tell HER how GREAT this dog is!!  (They don't care who the heck you are talking to ... but they LOVE it when you brag on them!!)
     
    The other thing I don't know if anyone told you -- when you find soil inside, clean it up on a paper towel and *move* it outside.  Then go get her on leash and take her and SHOW her you moved it.  Yep -- here is where you go.  It works.  Trust me -- it works really well.
     
    Someone mentioned marrow bones - they are awesome.  Keeps their teeth nice and white, great to chew on (and you can even run a big huge leg/marrow bone in the dishwasher, pack it with pureed veggies and kibble and freeze it and use it again!!)  Just make sure it's a big bone -- not a flat round steak bone -- but too big to get stuck in the mouth. 
     
    And keep coming back.  There's only so much YOU can absorb at one time ... so come back and re-read again and again and it will help you.
     
    And I for one am a person you can email ANY time you please.  I work during the day but I don't mind questions if its something you don't want to post. 
     
    It's not easy -- but nothing good in this life is usually easy.  But it is so worth it. 
     
    And a side note -- your teenager is watching this.  This, in her eyes, comes down to commitment.  She may not even like the dog, but if she sees you adults trying again and again -- she learns this thing called "commitment".  We don't give up on our humand children ... and not giving up on a dog shows the same type of grit and determination.  It's the best example we can give our kids -- so they realize it's not just the dog who has to change (and oh yeah, she's GOTTA change) but the humans too.  How we do things.  What we expect.  How we teach things.  But working thru something like this is a big huge demonstration of commitment and "doing the right thing" ... and ... honestly?  The things we DO for love. 
     
    Good luck -- you're doing a GOOD thing Rhonda.  My hat's off to you!