Boerboel

ORIGINAL: Awsomedog

ORIGINAL: spiritdogs

Are you saying that you would assume that because one positive trainer (whose credentials or abilities we know nothing about) failed with a particular dog, that somehow that is an indictment against positive training as a methodology?

Nope, AND! I knew you'd say that. I simply pointed out that someone using R+ training, AND! had three years to do so couldn't get the job done. Why? Because some people (including trainers) don't understand the difference between OBT and behavior. And R+ training *will not* work with or in every case.

ORIGINAL: debv53


Awsome, even you must admit that poor girl was no trainer, she didn't even have her own dogs under control.

If you ask me Patti was getting ripped off, but mostly the dog was. But I don't think she was in anyway malicious in deed. The ethical thing to do would have been to recommend someone else.

And I don't think this was a bad dog to begin w/ just a bunch of clueless people around him and miscommunication on the humans part. I love Patti LaBelle but after what I saw today she shouldn't own dogs.

ORIGINAL: Awsomedog

All I know is she was presented as a "dog trainer". As to how she came by that title I don't know, and we in the business know that anyone can very easily become a certified PDT. But who here can say she's not infact a great trainer? She may be awesome at OBT, and even her own dogs may have great OBT skills, that has nothing to do with their bad behavior. I come across many dogs that have great OBT skills, but have terrible manners. And this is where I see mant "trainers" fail, they simply don't understand the difference between what is a skill and what are manners.

ORIGINAL: espencer

ORIGINAL: Awsomedog

All I know is she was presented as a "dog trainer". As to how she came by that title I don't know, and we in the business know that anyone can very easily become a certified PDT. But who here can say she's not infact a great trainer? She may be awesome at OBT, and even her own dogs may have great OBT skills, that has nothing to do with their bad behavior. I come across many dogs that have great OBT skills, but have terrible manners. And this is where I see mant "trainers" fail, they simply don't understand the difference between what is a skill and what are manners.

I have seen two different episodes when the actual OBT trainers themselves call Cesar because they need help with behavioral issues

One was a lady with 3 german shepards and the other was a lady that was competing in dog shows

Of course that does not mean all of them are not able to control their own dogs

ORIGINAL: eley

It sounded to me like the girl was more of a gopher and someone had the bright idea of instead of calling a Pro just toss the poor girl a couple of books and let her figure it out.

ORIGINAL: Scout in Canada

Aside from that, I didn't see the show but it sounds like a case of someone getting a breed that they really weren't prepared for. Did she have experience with large, powerful, mastiff-type dogs? I wouldn't tell any old joe to go buy a Boerboel. Just a thought. 

Aside from that, I didn't see the show but it sounds like a case of someone getting a breed that they really weren't prepared for. Did she have experience with large, powerful, mastiff-type dogs? I wouldn't tell any old joe to go buy a Boerboel. Just a thought.

You are right there, she was not prepared, she said that one day she came, baby talked to him and he launched himself to her at the other side of the cage, from that day on she didnt even wanted to look at the dog because the fear she was having, she was like that for 3 and a half years

That's sad. I mean there are a lot of breeds that DH and I would love to have, but we know they're not right for us.

That's sad. I mean there are a lot of breeds that DH and I would love to have, but we know they're not right for us. You have to make the responsible decision with these types of choices. I love huskies, but I don't want to deal with serious dog-Houdini issues. I love Shiba Inus, but the stubborness would frustrate me to no end. Everyone's different. Someone who sees a Boerboel and goes "ooooh a rare African breed that's cool looking" needs to look a little harder at their ability to meet the dog's needs. 

Once I heard someone saying that they may get a Basenji because they have a cool eyebrow.......

ORIGINAL: Scout in Canada

That's sad. I mean there are a lot of breeds that DH and I would love to have, but we know they're not right for us. You have to make the responsible decision with these types of choices.