who does the Discipline, exercise, and affection

Well it is not fair to address your comment to only those that are.  I don't care whether Caesar said it or Caesar's ghost.  My point was that although the statement is an ideal, it is not practical in every day life.  Have an SA dog in your home and the priorities will be shifted to affection, discipline, and then exercise. To help with SA, the priorities should be exercise, discipline, and affection.    In my home I open the backyard and it is the dogs choice to exercise or not.  Too many dogs to exercise individually like walking. 

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Well it is not fair to address your comment to only those that are.  I don't care whether Caesar said it or Caesar's ghost.  My point was that although the statement is an ideal, it is not practical in every day life.  Have an SA dog in your home and the priorities will be shifted to affection, discipline, and then exercise. To help with SA, the priorities should be exercise, discipline, and affection.    In my home I open the backyard and it is the dogs choice to exercise or not.  Too many dogs to exercise individually like walking. 

You lost me there, with SA is which one then? you said one first "Have an SA dog in your home and the priorities will be shifted to affection, discipline, and then exercise" and a different one right after "To help with SA, the priorities should be exercise, discipline, and affection"

You can read again my Chucky Cheese's example about excersice and like Awsomedog said, what Cesar says is a suggestion, is something that was succesfull for him, you decide if you want to follow it or ignore it []

I think mine gets more affection than anything. 

But, exercise is usually a first thing in the morning routine.. Except I don't allow him to walk in weather that will get him soaked. So, sometimes I may have to wait until afternoon to get out.

I think it may be the most important thing to him.   It is probably not so much the exercise but the exploring and sniffing.

I have never been one for discipline. 

Routine and structure is another story.  But then again, maybe it's one and the same.

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oops...sorry, I got his order wrong.  Exercise, discipline and affection.  Anyway, I still can't do that.lol

Exercise, discipline and affection.   I don't understand why some people have trouble with this concept, it's very simple really.

When your dog is properly exercised, ideally with a nice long walk, he will be fullfilled, not only physically, but mentally as well.  Your dog will be in a state more receptive to training and discipline.  Combine that and hopefully you'll have a calm submissive companion and you can give all the affection you want, which includes food, pets, toys... whatever..

There are many days I get home from work and I'd rather just let my dog run in the backyard, and that's what I used to do, but now I know that backyards are nothing more than big kennels for dogs and not very stimulating mentally.  The least I owe him is a nice long walk after being in the house all day.   Since our walks, my dog and I have bonded closer and he's much better behaved and calm at night.

I did say big yard didn't I?  Actually I have 3 acres of property with hills, a mountain a pond and 2 streams.  My dogs venture all over my property they don#%92t live in a big kennel like Cesar#%92s dogs, they have plenty of room to roam on there own all day and everyday.  They move forward plenty, most dogs should be so lucky.  But formal exercise as Cesar sees it, nope not necessary.
 
I like Cesar as much as the rest but the point that Cesar#%92s tries so hard to make is, don#%92t spoil (affection last), don#%92t allow you dog to sit in the house all day doing nothing (exercise) and boundaries and limitations is correcting and stopping bad behaviors and setting expectations.  He does not mean you have to “walk” your dog or “roller blade” it or put it on an “exercise machine” what he is trying to teach is to exercise in some way shape or form

I'm a little shady on what they mean by discipline as a priority over affection. I don't often need to discipline my dog. She's a good girl and does what she's told, so she gets lots of affection and not a lot of discipline.

But then, when she does something naughty, she doesn't get affection, but she does get told off. Is that what it means?

The way I see it, if you really loved your dog you would tell them off when they're naughty, because dogs like it when you tell them what to do, and a well-behaved, polite dog is not going to meet an unpleasant and premature end due to serious behavioural problems.

Some of you probably think that because I'm a positive trainer, my dogs run this place - heck, there is, after all,  a sign on my front door that says, "This house is maintained for the comfort and security of my dogs - if you don't like that, go away."      
My dogs get over-the-top affection.  When?  When they "come", when they "high five", when they "spin", when they are lying on the couch with me being "dog of the day", when they "retrieve", when they "excuse me" (move out of the way of the human). 
When they need discipline, they get the cold shoulder (doggy style turn of the head), or the "oops" (NRM), or they are quietly placed in their crates for a time out.  I seldom need to use any of those things.  They are generally very obedient, loving, happy dogs who can sniff pee on their walks to their hearts' content, as long as we aren't "heeling", or "waiting" or I have said "leave it".   They can switch on and off, and do not have to be held to walking behind me, or holding their heads up the whole time.  I am not a leadership nazi, and yet my dogs are not applying for the position of CEO of my house - they know quite well who is in charge here.  They have all been hand fed for at least two weeks at the beginning of our relationship, whether as pups or adults - they know that I control all resources, and they know that they will be rewarded for good behavior.  I find that the key to not having to discipline so much is to "catch the dog doing something right", and reward it, not wait for them to fail, then punish.  Behavior that gets rewarded gets repeated.
They have all been taught to move out of the way of an approaching human.  They didn't get bed or couch privileges until they were housetrained and they could perform the following: sit, lie down, leave it, wait and come when called.  They understand who starts and stops all games.  They are well exercised, and well fed (natural or organic), and they have regular grooming, regular vet care, and a position of honor in our home as the wonderful species they are. 

I just wanted to say that I don't think those three "requirements" are mutually exclusive. 

I personally don't like the word "Disclipline."  To me it conjures up images of nuns with rulers and such.  I like the term "Boundaries."  I set boundaries for my dogs' behaviors.

One can be affectionate while exercising one's dogs and maintaining boundaries.  One can maintain bondaries affectionately while the dogs exercise.  The order, to me, isn't as important as ensuring that the dogs' needs are being met.  Different dogs have different needs and we, as owners or pack leaders, need to make sure those needs are being met.  Dogs need to be given the opportunity to sniff, to mark, to play, to explore and to be part of the family.   They also have to live in our world which is where our artificial boundaries come in...things like No jumping, no teeth on skin, no destroying the couch, and compliance with the pack leader.

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Some of you probably think that because I'm a positive trainer, my dogs run this place - heck, there is, after all,  a sign on my front door that says, "This house is maintained for the comfort and security of my dogs - if you don't like that, go away." 

Cool sign.

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I personally don't like the word "Disclipline."  To me it conjures up images of nuns with rulers and such.  I like the term "Boundaries." 

I think I've heard Cesar define discipline as rules boundries and limitaions.  I agree with what you say, but I don't think the idea of EDA is to be cold hearted until the E and the D is taken care of.

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Some of you probably think that because I'm a positive trainer, my dogs run this place - heck, there is, after all,  a sign on my front door that says, "This house is maintained for the comfort and security of my dogs - if you don't like that, go away."      
My dogs get over-the-top affection.  When?  When they "come", when they "high five", when they "spin", when they are lying on the couch with me being "dog of the day", when they "retrieve", when they "excuse me" (move out of the way of the human). 
When they need discipline, they get the cold shoulder (doggy style turn of the head), or the "oops" (NRM), or they are quietly placed in their crates for a time out.  I seldom need to use any of those things.  They are generally very obedient, loving, happy dogs who can sniff pee on their walks to their hearts' content, as long as we aren't "heeling", or "waiting" or I have said "leave it".   They can switch on and off, and do not have to be held to walking behind me, or holding their heads up the whole time.  I am not a leadership nazi, and yet my dogs are not applying for the position of CEO of my house - they know quite well who is in charge here.  They have all been hand fed for at least two weeks at the beginning of our relationship, whether as pups or adults - they know that I control all resources, and they know that they will be rewarded for good behavior.  I find that the key to not having to discipline so much is to "catch the dog doing something right", and reward it, not wait for them to fail, then punish.  Behavior that gets rewarded gets repeated.
They have all been taught to move out of the way of an approaching human.  They didn't get bed or couch privileges until they were housetrained and they could perform the following: sit, lie down, leave it, wait and come when called.  They understand who starts and stops all games.  They are well exercised, and well fed (natural or organic), and they have regular grooming, regular vet care, and a position of honor in our home as the wonderful species they are. 

So this sounds a lot like you use nilif, and while you use positive reinforcement, you don't use R+ only. would that be a fair statement/

In my house, exercise comes first.  Before my leg injury, the adult dogs ran & biked with me daily.  Since the injury, the dogs use the treadmill, frisbee, ball, and free shaping to tire them out.  Second, comes affection.  My dogs get affection when they do something right, or when it suits me.  Last is discipline, because it is a minor part of our day to day routine.  If someone misbehaves, they are ignored while the dog or dogs that behaved properly are clicked & treated.

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But then, when she does something naughty, she doesn't get affection, but she does get told off. Is that what it means?

Words serve very little purpose for dogs. For the most part, they're simple a waste of energy.

Domesticated dogs left to their own devises in a back yard do not "constructively" exercise themselves regardless of what one thinks.

Well, I dole out affection for just about any reason. My dogs are sport dogs so they get plent of exercise. as for discpline.....or root word "disciple"
a person who is a pupil or an adherent of the doctrines of another; follower: a disciple of Freud.
 
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dis·ci·pline     /ˈdɪsəplɪn/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[dis-uh-plin] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, -plined, -plin·ing.
–noun



1.
training to act in accordance with rules; drill: military discipline.



2.
activity, exercise, or a regimen that develops or improves a skill; training: A daily stint at the typewriter is excellent discipline for a writer.



3.
punishment inflicted by way of correction and training.



4.
the rigor or training effect of experience, adversity, etc.: the harsh discipline of poverty.



5.
behavior in accord with rules of conduct; behavior and order maintained by training and control: good discipline in an army.



6.
a set or system of rules and regulations.



7.
Ecclesiastical. the system of government regulating the practice of a church as distinguished from its doctrine.



8.
an instrument of punishment, esp. a whip or scourge, used in the practice of self-mortification or as an instrument of chastisement in certain religious communities.



9.
a branch of instruction or learning: the disciplines of history and economics. –verb (used with object)



10.
to train by instruction and exercise; drill.



11.
to bring to a state of order and obedience by training and control.



12.
to punish or penalize in order to train and control; correct; chastise.  
 
there are 12 defintions three have the word punishment in them.
 
Now I also employ R+ training as much as I can. I do use punishment, But that does not mean it has to be painful or violent. just as a push on your shoulder from an angry friend gets the idea of  disapproval over. I think one of the biggest problems in with trainers. is they believe the punishment has to be great enough to effect change. what about constant, no hard but constant, like a someone tapping you on the shoulder.