Fear Aggression????

    • Gold Top Dog
    I think she is seeing me as 'the witch who won't let her have her way'.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Perhaps you should change your screen name to Elmira Gulch??? (think Wizard of Oz)
    • Gold Top Dog
    Funny, MM, funny!
    Here it is Saturday and we've just come back from a shopping trip at Petsmart with HB. 
    She behaved very very socially.  I was extremely pleased with her.  A lot of people were shopping, a lot of kids, a lot of big bags and push carts, a lot of nationalities and she didn't get her aggressive attitude with any of them.  I am very pleased.
    On the obedience front, though, I am very disappointed.  She would not even 'sit' for me.  (She sat for husband 3 times - every time he asked it of her).  She seems to be really really determined to ignore me.  Turned the 90 degrees away from me everytime I tried.  I had a good attitude... I was firm.... I was expecting her to "sit".  She wanted me to dry up and blow away.
    Darn.....
    • Puppy
    This is my first post so I'm really looking forward to hearing your responses. I have two dogs, both rescues, but right now I'll just talk about the larger one, Beau. He is a highly intelligent 4-yr-old black lab (120 lbs. and he is not fat) that I rescued at 14 months old and we're told that he'd been kept in his kennel, in a dark garage, wearing a muzzle a great deal of the time because of his barking for several weeks and perhaps months before he escaped to be rescued-- we just don't know for sure. As for his fear agression tendencies, Beau does very well with people and objects but not with other dogs except for my other dog, Bella. If he sees any other dog from the car window, from the front door, or on a walk or from anywhere, he goes a little wild. He barks crazily and tries to get at the other dog. There have been times recently that I think he's just trying to meet the other dog because his response seems more like curiosity and interest than aggression. He's started whining too in addition to the barking. But the truth is I really don't know for sure. To demonstrate that Beau is really a sweet, affiable creature, please note the following: On a recent walk we encountered a jack rabbit that froze no more than seven feet away from us. Beau just looked at him quizzically for about 30 seconds. When the rabbit finally took off running Beau half-heartedly tried to follow but quickly lost interest when he saw the next tree...
     
    But back to his aggression toward other dogs... My grown son has two labs and when we got them together with Beau about two years ago, Beau quickly had the larger of my son's dogs down on his back in a submissive stance. Once that was acheived, Beau was fine. Last summer I had a couple of laborers working in my backyard and after being there several hours, they asked if they could let their dog out of their truck to get some exercise in my backyeard. I said, yes, as long as they understood about Beau. I held Beau while they brought their dog in and then led him over to the other dog to let him take a big smell of the interloper. He growled a bit but got over it with my coaxing. I finally let him go and he rushed up to smell the other dog again but after that he was fine until the other dog found one of his long forgotten bones. Beau was on him in a flash, snarling and growling, and again had the dog over on his back in a submissive stance in seconds. I think the important thing is that Beau didn't bite him and quickly retreated upon my command. I've also introduced him to my other son's dog, which is a very hyper, playful lab/pitt mix. Beau growled and did his stance but the other dog is so hyper Beau's postering just didn't seem to phase him. In fact, this dog, Anoki, absolutely runs Beau ragged when we get them together because he wants to play non-stop and his play centers around jumping on Beau's back with his front legs (sign of dominance?). This is my question:  what do I do about Beau's reaction to all the other dogs in the world? Another post mentioned that it's frightening to see a big dog running toward you--well, let me tell you--I can't imagine what the people in my neighborhood with dogs have thought and felt when they've seen Beau trying to get off his leash to lunge at them and their dogs. He's a very tall,  big boned, muscular lab with a big head and being black probably makes him look a little scarier. ;Plus his big white teeth really stand out because of the color of his fur.  I'd very much like to prevent that from happening any more if I can. Currently, I walk him through a forrested area away from other dogs as much as possible to prevent any more incidents from occurring. My goal, however, is to be able to walk him anywhere without the fear of running into another dog--in fact, I eventually want to train him to stay with me by my side regardless of what he see's and regardlessof whether he's on a leash or not. 
     
    I'll post a picture soon... Thanks so much...
    • Gold Top Dog
    Hey TL999,
    How goes it with the Bear?? We just got back from a long walk and the Mookster was, well....well-behaved. We ran into a number of people out walking and it was all without incident. All the tips and training time seem to be really helping. The eye contact is still kind of an issue. I can get him to do it, but just not as quickly as I'd like. We just keep working on it.
    • Gold Top Dog
    MM-
    We have been very pleased with HoneyBear's progress in the last two weeks. 
    All of this is directly related to the great advice we've gotten off this forum!
    I am much more of an Alpha figure to her now. She has to get everything she wants from me, and I make her 'sit' and 'down' and 'stay' for it all.
    I also have been reading The Feisty Fido and it is giving me good direction.
    When walking, if my husband comes with, she is really really good.  But, still, if I am walking her alone, she tries to 'protect' me if she perceives something threatening.  Even last night, a guy who was delivering door to door brochures made her grrrrrrowl.  I kept insisting that she 'sit' over and over... but she was not hearing me or looking at me.  And I was firm.
    We graduate from our Beginner's obedience class on Sunday.  It helped her social skills and it taught me how to get her to walk sit and stay. 
    From here, we are looking into private training.  I've called three recommended local trainers and am waiting to hear back from any of them.
    But, as stated above, we still say every day what a better doggie she is than she was two weeks ago.
    It's a process.....