Abady Ingredients Posted

I don't know why I bother, but let me throw in my 2 cents. I feed Abady classic to my Irish Wolfhounds and Great Dane. It is a costly food. However, my dogs do very well on it. I used to have problems with hot spots, picky eaters, and underweight and undersized dogs. These have all disappeared on this food. I choose this food because it is very low in expandable fiber, and I believe this helps avoid bloat. It is about 795 calories a cup so I can feed a low volume of food and still get the dogs the calories they need. I agree that there are plenty of other good foods out there. Most of them have a lot more expandable fiber than the Abady granular feeds, and thats why I don't use them. I have nudged some friends over to Abady and every single dog has thrived on the food. My pet supply store is the closest Abady supplier, and is 20 miles away. They are selling more Abady all of the time. If they can get someone to try it, more than 50% stay with it.

All I care about is the end result, and my dogs look great on this stuff. Yes it is weird compared to kibble. Yes it costs more than I think it should. The ingredient list is less than perfect. All that said, they are doing something right because dogs really do well on their foods.

I rather enjoyed the rest of the website.  What causes hip dysplasia?  That's right, the absence of Abady.  It has NOTHING to do with genetics...... 

Their point with hip problems is that poor nutrition is a major contributing factor. If all of these other feeds are so good and abady is so bad, why all the problems on all these other premium feeds and good health on abady?

Pit_Pointer_Aussie

 Thanks for posting links to these pages. This isn't what I would choose to feed my dogs, but it's nice to finally have the information out in the open for discussion purposes.

 Oh your welcome, no problem.  It has been long awaited for and a source of controversy over the years for the lack of information.  I know they have been around for over 30 years and they just got a website within the past couple years.  Not sure when the ingredients were added to the website, but it must have been fairly recent.

CC.

I have six german shepherds with absolutely NO health problems and I've never even considered feeding them Abady.  Hips are fine too.

I do appreciate being able to see the ingredients though.  You're right Charlie, the "secrecy" surrounding the ingredients over the years has added a lot of fuel to the fire.

louiereck

Their point with hip problems is that poor nutrition is a major contributing factor. If all of these other feeds are so good and abady is so bad, why all the problems on all these other premium feeds and good health on abady?

Numbers, probably.  I would guess that compared to the number of people feeding ALL other dog foods, the number of people feeding Abady is marginal.  So obviously the "ALL other" group is going to have quite a high number of HD dogs relative to the small group of dogs eating Abady.  Also, it seems that Abady eaters are hardcore sport/working/hunting dogs, dogs that could not do these functions if they had HD, thus would not be eating Abady.

Abady is not bad, it's just not worth the price when you compare the ingredients and the guaranteed analysis against other foods that are as good, if not better, and are significantly cheaper. 

Liesje

Also, it seems that Abady eaters are hardcore sport/working/hunting dogs, dogs that could not do these functions if they had HD, thus would not be eating Abady.

 In comparison to the dogs hunting along side my dog, they all seem to be gassed within a few hours.  My Zoe seems to want to hunt all day long and keep going!  I've seen other dogs leaving stiff and gimpy like they can hardly walk another step.  Zoe doesn't want to stop, her stamina is amazing and a solid worker in the field.  I love watching her work...focused...attentive...sharp...and doesn't want to stop!

well, Abady costs AS MUCH if not more than a good raw diet- which will achieve all of your goals of bloat prevention, low fiber, etc. plus you avoid the grain and the questionable by-products and lard.

sillysally

I rather enjoyed the rest of the website.  What causes hip dysplasia?  That's right, the absence of Abady.  It has NOTHING to do with genetics...... 

does it really say that? wow...lol. Sounds like Chuck Norris is hanging around that site, lol. Good to have the info finally...but like everyone else...bit too eccentric a co. for me to feel comfy with.

Said it before, will say it again.---feed what works best for your dog and what you are most comfortable feeding--be it Iams, Timberwolf, Abady, Purina, Taste of the Wild, Pedigree, Eagle pack or even ol Roy.  What works great for one dog will make another "sick as a dog" Pun intended.

Well said. A lot of folks including you have said it before, will say it again and again and again.  Not only what works best for my dog, I also choose products that I am most comfortable with.  I am not comfortable with anything made by Diamond so my dog will probably never get TOTW.  Abady is not bad but, like a lot of folks have stated, it is very pricey.  Although the ingredients do not look all that great, I am sure the combination of them works great for some dogs.

louiereck

All I care about is the end result, and my dogs look great on this stuff. Yes it is weird compared to kibble. Yes it costs more than I think it should. ...

I feel different about the cost thing.  I find it is very cost effective.  I am not a very wealthy person, and like most out there I live paycheck to paycheck.  With this type of diet, they eat much less because of the higher cals, up to 2/3rds less compared to some brands.  Factor in optimum health with about 0 vet bills, I have no complaints.  In that respect I find it very economical and cost effective.  The number of dogs and the weight class has to factor in as well.  I'm lucky in the sense I am feeding for 50 pounds (2 dogs) and one 40-lb box of food at $65 will last me approximately 3 months.  Running some numbers, about .72 cents a day.  No freezer (electric bill) to store food.  No time in preparation of food (just scoop out of a box and feed).  No vitamin supplements needed.  No extra trips to the vet other than routine shots.  I am very, very pleased with the results.

It's not that economical. EVO has 1924.5 kcal/ pound of food, about the same as Abaday classic at 2143.7 kcal/ pound. EVO costs $45.99 for 28.6 pounds of food. Abaday costs $72.99 for 40 pounds of classic. EVO is thus costing you $1.61 per pound, which works out to 1195 kcal per $1 spent; for Abaday classic you pay $1.82 per pound, which works out to 1178 kcal per $1 spent. EVO is more economical to feed and has a far superior ingredient list and profile.

 I can't get over how many calories are in one cup of the toy breed formula!  That seems a little overboard....

cc431

I feel different about the cost thing.  I find it is very cost effective. 

Well, the way I read the feeding guidelines, the Ode and I would have to live to be about 300 before it would make a significant difference over TWO.