Abady Ingredients Posted

What an average food at an extraordinary price.  No wonder they were reluctant to publicize their ingredients.

I thought this food is supposedly packed with protein?  30% is nothing to brag about. 

The giant breed puppy food has a dangerously high level of calcium. The fat levels in the "classic" formula might be appropriate for hard-working sled dogs. The prices are ridiculous and the ingredients so-so to super-ick. They might have been better off NOT revealing their ingredients.

What bothers me is the editorialising in the ingredient list.  If the ingredients should speak for themselves (and they should, as with all dog foods or even human foods), then why doesn't the company allow them to do just that? 

 Thanks for posting links to these pages. This isn't what I would choose to feed my dogs, but it's nice to finally have the information out in the open for discussion purposes.

Benedict

What bothers me is the editorialising in the ingredient list.  If the ingredients should speak for themselves (and they should, as with all dog foods or even human foods), then why doesn't the company allow them to do just that? 

Seriously.  Many other foods have the exact same stuff without all the parenthetical annotations. 

Benedict

What bothers me is the editorialising in the ingredient list. 

I think they had better put a little bit of spin on it.  I mean, after all, they are using only the best quality chicken feathers and beaks.  They should let people know. 

Meh.  I would still want to see chelated minerals, as in my own personal experience, my dogs do tons better with chelated minerals.

Good move making it available. Being more open might get more customers. I never understood the reason for not to be open.

As far as their prices that is part of the market place. Why should he not charge what ever the market will pay? It is his business.

He had a thread about New Frontier kibble that got a lot of attention.  This will too.

I tried some of his product after that thread. His cookies for dogs were not bad....  The New Frontier gave my dog bad gas.

shamrockmommy

Meh.  I would still want to see chelated minerals, as in my own personal experience, my dogs do tons better with chelated minerals.

     Exactly what I was thinking ... To be honest, I didn't find the ingredient list to be that bad. It IS meat based, and dogs need high amount of organ meats (by products, beef liver - there are no feathers or beaks in by products). Beef fat and lard are much better for coats than foods that use chicken fat, MUCH better. I also see inulin in the vitamin premix, which helps with calcium absorbtion. And keep in mind this food is very calorie dense ... anything under 500 kcals per cup has not been worth using for my working dogs. That being said, I was dissapointed about the lack of chelated minerals, which I expect from any food primarily aimed at working dogs that is worth it's salt. Also, floic acid was low on the list in the performance formula, which is not good for in whelp bitches. Overall, I like it, and might buy it, if the price wasn't so ridiculous. 

shamrockmommy

Meh.  I would still want to see chelated minerals, as in my own personal experience, my dogs do tons better with chelated minerals.

     Exactly what I was thinking ... To be honest, I didn't find the ingredient list to be that bad. It IS meat based, and dogs need high amount of organ meats (by products, beef liver - there are no feathers or beaks in by products). Beef fat and lard are much better for coats than foods that use chicken fat, MUCH better. I also see inulin in the vitamin premix, which helps with calcium absorbtion. And keep in mind this food is very calorie dense ... anything under 500 kcals per cup has not been worth using for my working dogs. That being said, I was dissapointed about the lack of chelated minerals, which I expect from any food primarily aimed at working dogs that is worth it's salt. Also, folic acid was low on the list in the performance formula, which is not good for in whelp bitches, as it is imperative for preventing birth defects. Overall, I like it, and might buy it, if the price wasn't so ridiculous. 

You're fondly imaging by-products to be the nutritious organs, though, when it actual fact it is an undefined product that varies from batch to batch and is probably mostly intestines, a not-very-nutritious body part. Better than corn, sure, but still, to see by-products in a food suggests it's not a very premium food. If they really wanted to buy liver and heart and so forth they could, and put them in the ingredients separately like the pre-made raws do.

Perhaps the recomendation has changed, but I thought that the recommended amount of organ meat was an average of 5% per day?

And agreed, since there are no standards for byproducts I can't seriously consider them part of a quality food.

These ingredients do not impress me.  I can buy 30 lbs of Blue for under $40 and that DOES include chelated minerals

I can buy Pedigree or Dog Chow and they include chelated minerals.