Canine z/d® ULTRA Allergen-Free has BHA! WTH????

Ya, I'm not suprised in the least. 

sl2crmeg

I'm not sure of the ingredients, but I know two of the dogs that board at work bring it and it smells AMAZING. I didn't think it would have a scent but *shrug*. The canned food is a weird rubbery consistency too.

 It smells so strong/good b/c one of the primary ingredients (second ingredient) is hyrolyzed chicken liver
 

A LOT of foods have BHA, BHT & ethoxyquin and never report it on the label *because* in many states, countries the only thing you have to put ON the label is what YOU add.  So if they buy meat sources that already HAVE those preservatives in them then they don't *have* to put it on the label because they didn't add it. 

I went nose to nose one day with a Hills rep at a seminar and forced him to admit they do have all 3 in their foods and then he snarled at me "Well so do TWINKIES and people don't stop eating those!" (I'm a big lady and he thot he'd shut me up with that one)

 I looked him in the eye and said "do you know any humans who ONLY eat Twinkies - day in, day out, every single day/meal of their lives?  I don't think so!"

It's easy for them.  S/D has TONS of allergens in it - they just aren't absorbed because it simply has molecules too small to be absorbed by the body the same way 'normal' food is.  How the dog gets nutrition from it is a mystery. 

calliecritturs

I went nose to nose one day with a Hills rep at a seminar and forced him to admit they do have all 3 in their foods and then he snarled at me "Well so do TWINKIES and people don't stop eating those!" (I'm a big lady and he thot he'd shut me up with that one)

 I looked him in the eye and said "do you know any humans who ONLY eat Twinkies - day in, day out, every single day/meal of their lives?  I don't think so!"

Good for you i hate ppl that assume if your big you eat alot of crap and they try to use that against you in an argument WTH...anyways i'm sure if more ppl knew twinkies had a cancer causing ingredient in it less ppl would eat it!!! 

   If you have a dog that you suspect has food allergies and you don't want to do a one protein-one carb elimination diet, z/d is the next best thing. My veterinary dermatologist recommended it for feeding to Jessie to see if some of her itching was caused by food allergies. Like you, I bought it and when I got home and read the ingredients I decided not to feed it. I threw it away and fed an elimination diet instead because I felt the same as you about the preservatives. In all honesty, I think I was a little over dramatic and you may be too. The third ingredient is soybean oil preserved with BHA; it was the ethoxyquin that I was worried about but there is a lot of disagreement over whether or not it's a carcinogen. You have to be very careful about what you read on the internet. My dermatologist intended it to be fed for a short period of time and if Jessie's itching improved, I was to reintroduce the ingredients from her old food one at a time to determine which one she was reacting to. She didn't intend for me to feed it on a long term basis.
 

And here are the carcinogens most of us will be consuming next week.

http://www.acsh.org/publications/pubID.103/pub_detail.asp

abbysdad

And here are the carcinogens most of us will be consuming next week.

 

http://www.acsh.org/publications/pubID.103/pub_detail.asp

abbysdad

And here are the carcinogens most of us will be consuming next week.

 

http://www.acsh.org/publications/pubID.103/pub_detail.asp

Haha! Thats awesome. I really do think people are incredibly paranoid about foods sometimes. On the other hand, I wouldn't feed z/d for more than the 12 weeks needed to diagnose food allergies. There are SO MANY limited antigen foods available these days, that z/d should really be a last resort for dogs that are allergic to everything.  

Haha! Thats awesome. I really do think people are incredibly paranoid about foods sometimes. On the other hand, I wouldn't feed z/d for more than the 12 weeks needed to diagnose food allergies. There are SO MANY limited antigen foods available these days, that z/d should really be a last resort for dogs that are allergic to everything.  

   Sometimes the limited antigen foods can be the problem.  Last fall when Jessie was having problems again I decided to try the IVD Potato and Rabbit instead of cooking an elimiantion diet. After being on it for about 2 months she developed a stubborn ear infection so I went to doing an elimination diet and later learned she is allergic to potatoes. The ultra z/d is very unlikely to cause that problem.
 

bxredkilla973

so i was looking on another thread that was talking about possible food allergies and i read that Canine z/d ULTRA Allergen-Free Hill's Prescription Diet is good for dogs who have allergies so i was like finally this might be it! well NO think again this food cost a leg and an arm about $38 for 3kg  then i read all these bad reviews so i check out there(Hill's Prescription Diet) web site and read the ingredient's and BHA is the third ingredient on the list which is considered a carcinogen (so its like wow there must be alot of it in the food) so now i feel kind of mad because if i just bought it with out looking like i was intending to do i would have been feeding my dog to her possible death bed (cancer)...am i being over dramatic????

I was wondering if Hills changed the preservative in their prescription diets.  I checked the ingredient lists back when I worked for my vet, and found one of the chemical preservatives in all the rx foods.  Checking that stuff was a habit I got into because Mick was allergic to BHA, BHT and ethoxyquin.

micksmom

.  Checking that stuff was a habit I got into because Mick was allergic to BHA, BHT and ethoxyquin.

 An ALLERGY to all three huh? You diagnosed this by diet trial??
 

Allergic to all 3 of those preservatives?