superig
Posted : 4/2/2007 9:08:36 AM
Thanks for all the different opinions, they have really made me think. Since my first post I've done some expirimenting and realized that I may have jumped to some conclusions before!
I took my other dog out for a walk with no prong collar and tried to get him to sit and then reached down to touch him, and guess what, he stood up. I don't think what I was doing before was making my dog stand up, I think that since I taught them with treats before, and I usually do give them a treat for sitting, or their dinner, etc. normally I release them as I reach down and hand them their treat...so they're used to standing up when I reach toward them....I worked on having them sit and petting before I release them and this has seemed to improve (although I'm still not doing the collar thing when the dog's sitting, I don't like that and I don't think it's helping anything).
Second, I guess he has matured some or calmed down some since I last tried to work with him on this because i decided to get out my treats again, just regular pupporonies, (I was using lunch meat before and he ignored it!) and surprise, he took them! It was just walking around the neighborhood, not like with a lot of people around, but still he would not do this before.
Third, after trying out the prong collar for a good week and a half, I can't see any signs of rubbing or poking on his neck, nor does he seem to mind anymore when I put it on or take it off of him ( now that I have the hang of it, it goess on and off much more easily).....On his flat collar he would hit the end of the leash (4') and choke and gag, but he still kept doing it, with this he stops before he gets to the end of the leash, and i guess i would rather him feel discomfort and stop than to continue to do something that really seems to be hurting him. I did take him for a few walks without the prong since then while I was trying to decide what to do and he really did much better than usual, so i don't think he will have to use it very long, and I'm only going to use it for heeling/walking. Thanks for all the input