Question about scraps

    • Gold Top Dog

    Question about scraps

    Hi, I was wondering if feeding my dog scraps was such a bad thing? I don't think it is, but I'm young, and have heard many different sides to this issue. I only feed him good things like rice, chicken, beef, meatloaf (if we have some left over), etc. I think he needs this in his diet, especially if I'm not giving him super high quality food. Am I correct? Please help!
     
    Oh, I forgot to add, these are cooked items that I have left over, not raw food. So, is that bad?
    • Gold Top Dog
    Everything is fine in moderation. :) You just don't want to feed too many because it will be replacing the "balance" of your dog's diet.
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    I homecook for my dogs so I certainly am not opposed to "people food" for them.  Here's my rule....if it's something I won't eat, like fat or grissle, they don't get it either.  ONIONS cause blood problems, so nothing with onion in it either.  I won't even let them have roast beef that was cooked WITH onions.  They get no benefit from veggies unless they are cooked and either pureed or mashed for them.  So scraps, as in stuff I'd throw out, no, they can't have, but actual FOOD that I would eat from my table, is fine.
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    Thank you, well, maybe I should have said, leftovers, because we have a bad tendency of not eating leftovers, so I give them to my pup. By the way, should I only feed him 3-4 times  a week with these leftovers? Because they're enough to fill him up for one of his meals anyway.
     
    Jack won't eat vegetables anyway, when I chop them on the cutting board, occassionally a cucumber will fall, or a piece of lettuce, and he'll lick it, but he won't eat it (I find it after dinner in the living room!)
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    I give my dogs a couple of bites of whatever I am eating unless it is not suitable for them, ie onions, chocolate etc.  I think the first thing you need to do though is change dog foods.  I think that instead of getting scraps because he isn't getting that great of a dog food is a problem.  From your other post you said that you were feeding him purina and pedigree. She would also not eat and would throw up her food. I used to feed Lily that stuff until I started on Idog and became more educated.  If you were to start him on better nuticious food, you will see that your dog will actually eat less then when he is eating pedigree of purina.  The reason for that is because pedigree and purina have a lot of fillers in them and are less calorie dense.  For instance, I feed Solid Gold and my 48 lb shepard only eats 1 cup and 1/3 a day of dry food with a little bit of wet food.  If she were on pedigree or purina she would be feeding well over 2 1/2 cups.  I know that when you see the prices of the better dog food, it is almost like sticker shock, but it is well worth it in the end, and it almost comes out to the same amount of money in the end. I hope this helps, I know it had more than what you had originally posted.
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    I'm not an expert on nutrition.  I feed my dogs an excellent quality kibble (Innova) and homecooked from a recipe that was developed by a combination of me and a canine nutritionalist.  Since I don't feed anyone from my table, my leftovers tend to go into the freezer for the next batch of homecooked.  I don't eat white rice, or pasta....brown rice and whole wheat pasta for us since it's got a lower glycemic index and hubby is diabetic.....so just about anything on MY table (and I rarely use onions.....I use garlic instead in OUR food) goes into the leftover bag for the dogs.  Fruits, veggies, romain lettuce, meats, whatever.  And then I adjust the recipe for what I'm adding from leftovers.
     
    I can't really advise how often it's ok to feed leftovers, but if you are feeding a poor quality food, how about topping it with the goodies and sticking some in the freezer so that he's getting some fresh stuff daily?
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    I feed healthy leftovers that we'd eat ourselves (none of us humans are big leftover fans thoso the dogs reap the benefits) .  Sometimes I have enough for a whole meal for them and sometimes it's just a topper to their kibble. I also give them a dollop of plain yogurt on top of their kibble a few times a week.  I feed PetGuard and what I love about their company is one of their statements says: "We recommend varying your pet's diet occasionally by adding portions of fresh meat and vegetables as a part of a natural approach to nutritional well-being. "
     
    :) That's happy news to me!
     
    Go ahead and give a few leftovers from time to time, if your dog tolerates it.  I know you said he's having some trouble yet with tummy/diarrhea issues, so you might wait till you find a kibble (which will be his main food) that works and his tummy settles and then try a few bits of meat/veggies/rice/whatever and see how he does.
     
    Have fun, good luck!
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    I don't know if you're talking about giving a whole meal with scraps, but i do give bites every now and then. If the dogs don't beg while i eat, and they quietly in the floor, i'll give them a little hunk of meat. The most i give is a plain hamburger from mcdonalds to Kaiser. I don't think a little bit will hurt, just don't go overboard and cause a weight problem...it happened with my mom's JRT. Also, be careful about giving rich foods, like a lot of steak, they can cause pancreatitis.
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    ORIGINAL: RidgebackGermansShep

    Also, be careful about giving rich foods, like a lot of steak, they can cause pancreatitis.


    It's not the rich foods, it's the fat. Steak is good for them, but giving them the fat you trimmed off is not.
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    I would say that since your having issues with digestion right now to hold off on adding anything in to the food.  You won't be able to tell if the problems are coming from the kibble or something you added in. 
     
    Get everything under control, find the food your going to stay with get him all squared away and doing well on that.  Then, slowly add in fresh foods you'd like to share.  But, I'd even start with one thing at a time with those too.  Then once you know he's OK with certain things you can combine them and maybe make it into a whole meal once and a while.
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    I still get hung up on what folks mean by the word RICH.  To me, it's heavy, usually cream based sauces, etc.  Meat doesn't fit that category to me.  As I understand it, too much FAT will cause pancreatitis.....
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    Aw what the heck here is a copy of a letter I wrote to one of your board members on this subject:
     
    I used to tell clients with new dogs, and this is for 45 years, to go to the grocery store and pick out a major brand that you like,,,ie Purina, Gaines whatever and buy a small pack or a few cans of it..Try it for a week,,if the dog likes it and his bowels are normal than stick with it..untill the dog tires of it.. I used to feed my own dogs a commercial diet plus table scraps...with 7 kids there were lots of table scraps. But I would keep a record of what they had so if there was nay adverse reaction like Diarrhea then that would be given no more....
    I read lots of the posts on the board where people will give only certain high class diets to their dogs and their dogs did fine... I have no problem with that but if my clients could not afford the fancy diets then they fed the store brands I know if II posted this type of information on the nutrition board I would be ostracized. because when I first started I was told that the persons on the board were all holistic...
    Again I have no problem with feeding the exotics etc etc but I never saw a nutritional problem in any of my clients..Occaisionally vomiting and diarrhea but this could happen with any type food...
    Also you think your dog would like a change...Fine but your thinking this thought, not your dog...if your dog is happy with what he is eating and the food is fortified, (I forgot to mention that) then as long as he is happy, then you should be happy..
    Forgot to add, if the food if not fortified, and it will say on the label, then give a pet tab or such once or twice a day.
    Again all the affor statements are based on experience, not ideas from people on the internet...hope this helps.....cbh-dvm.
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    Whoops forgot to add...Some one said we, as vets, do not get courses in nutrition...not true we discuss nutrition for every disease or condition we encounter...In fact if I ever got to writing my thesis, which after 50 plus years( I will not ) I could have a master in nutrition...cattle nutrition but what the heck it is nutriti
    • Gold Top Dog
    ORIGINAL: RidgebackGermansShep

    I don't know if you're talking about giving a whole meal with scraps, but i do give bites every now and then. If the dogs don't beg while i eat, and they quietly in the floor, i'll give them a little hunk of meat.


    I do that too sometimes, it's taught her to just sit/lay quietly while i eat. But I wouldn't feed her a meal's worth of the food im eating at this age..It's probly ok every one in awhile for your dog, just make sure it wont hurt them like the above posts said.
    • Gold Top Dog
    My Bubblegum gets Eagle Pack kibble with cooked meat and veggies on it every supper,,,and at every breakfast she gets the same kibble with raw egg on it instead of meat.    I also give her yogurt each meal. BUT if I am eating anything good for supper, she gets some in her bowl ALWAYS.  Even a little bit of pasta,,,now and again. ITs spicy so I feed her just a taste.  She LOVES lettuce and veggies, tomatoes everything,,so she gets it all,,but a little at a time.  If I have a lot of leftover chicken,,,that has been baked or roasted...then she gets that on her kibble the next supper instead of cooked meat.  
    But I think as Willow said,,,if you are already having a problem with her digestive system,, you need to take it slow so that you know what is causing problems.   
    • Gold Top Dog
    I dont think I would give a whole meal of leftovers... but just add some in with the dry as an extra.