ingredients in recipe

    • Gold Top Dog

    ingredients in recipe

    What do you all think of these ingredients for homecooked meals.
     
    Either ground beef, pork, lamb, vension, duck, chicken, turkey or rabbit diced. 
    Either macaroni, potatoes with skin or long-grained rice.
    Sardines, canned in tomato sauce.
    canola oil.
    salt substitute-potassium chloride
    bonemeal powder
     
    Yesterday I started feeding Jake homecooked.  He loves it.  However, he is constipated.  I gave him a tablespoon of olive oil and a tablespoon of canned pumpking and added fresh green beans to his meal tonight.  Does this recipe sound okay and balanced?  What about fiber?
     
    Any input is greatly appreciated!
     
     
    • Gold Top Dog
    It sounds good but there are times I think when you use potato that you don't need to salt substitute.  You might want to get the book, Better food for Dogs.  The recipes are very similar ingredients to what your already planning and it tells when and how much to supplement.  It's my favorite book to cook for her from.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Thanks Willow, but do you think the recipe is lacking fiber?
    • Gold Top Dog
    Honestly, I've learned they don't "need" veggies and fruit.  However, some dogs do better with them.   The book I mentioned includes a mix of veggie/fruit in the recipe but I leave it out because she won't eat it with it in.  But, of course, you could try that.  Don't forget to, if this is a new diet he might have some trouble going at first.  Or, might have some diarrhea at first. 
     
    Personally, I'd start him off slow, like beef or chicken with rice and maybe one veggie.  Then built from there. 
     
    A THOUGHT---How much bone meal are you using, that could be the culprit!!
    • Gold Top Dog
    He gets 2 teaspoons of bone meal mixed in the food. The food is enough for a day and a half.  Is this too much?  What exactly is bone meal and what is it used for?
    • Gold Top Dog
    You should be using 1/2 a teaspoon for every lb of meat you have.  You are using it for calcium since your not feeding him bones.  You've got your phosphorous (meat) and now your adding the bone meal for calcium.  That needs to be balanced in the diet if nothing else or they can end up problems. 
     
    The  bone meal I use is from the company Solid Gold. 
    • Gold Top Dog
    I make 1/3 LB. of meat.  That feeds 3 plates of food for 1 1/2 days.  I'm using 2 teaspoons of bonemeal.  How much bonemeal should I be using for 1/3 LB. of meat.  I'm not even using a whole pound of meat.  I am so bad when it comes to numbers and math.
    • Puppy
    Shelley, you might want to join this yahoo group [linkhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/K9Kitchen/]http://groups.yahoo.com/group/K9Kitchen/[/link], and look in the files under diet info.This has the tools you need to ;plan a balanced diet. Also go to Monica Segals website(same person that owns the previous site) [linkhttp://www.monicasegal.com/]http://www.monicasegal.com/[/link], she has free newsletters and an excellent book, k9 kitchens, and many booklets you can purchase about homecooking for sale.They are also available at sitstay.com
    • Gold Top Dog
    according to what willow said, you should be using no more than one quarter teaspoon of bone meal.  so two teaspoons would be way too much.
     
    also, ive read that potato skins are poisonous to dogs so you should probably peel them.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Yeah, I'd say use the 1/4 teaspoon measure that should bring you close enough.  It's going to be very difficult to measure it exactly with 1/3 of a lb.  That's why I always prepare at least one lb.  Just makes it easy.  You could always prepare and freeze.  That way your not cooking every day either.

    I think that's why the trouble going, bone can be very constipating to some dogs.  I mean your using more than double what I use for my dog who is getting a whole pound of meat over two days. 

    But, don't worry about it finish up what you've made and change it the next time.  It's not going to hurt him (except for the poop issue).  The harm is done long term not just a few days.  You'll make mistakes with this at first, I did.  But, it will seem easy once you get the supplements down. 

    Tell me how much your dog weighs and I"ll look up a recipe for that weight range in my book. 
    • Gold Top Dog
    ive read that potato skins are poisonous to dogs so you should probably peel them


    The green bits and the eyes should be thouroughly cut out,its the green bits on the skin of potatoes that are toxic. As with most vegies most of the nutrients are contained in the skin,so i would leave the skin on and be vigilant about cutting out the eyes/shoots and green bits.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Willow,
     
    My dog's averages a weight of 32-34 lbs.  He is a cocker spaniel almost 2 years old.  His ideal weight would be 28-30 lbs.  Thanks for helping me.  I'm really worried about the constipation.  I got the recipes from my vet.  I wonder why they didn't tell me that about the bonemeal. 
     
    Edie,
     
    Thanks for clearing that up about the skin on the potatoes.  I thought it was good for them.  I'll be careful when I make that.
    • Bronze
    Are you using puree canned pumpkin? Canned pumpkin is good for when your pet has runny stool. When switching some dogs either they get the runs or they will be constipated.
     
    That is a good start out recipe there.
    Here are some food that has fiber. Which you already have potatoes, green beans and tomato sauce down.
    Carrots
    Peas
    Apples
    Blackberries
    Cabbage
    Lettuce
    Bone Meal Powder is a good source of calcium and phosphorus.
    But you can add cottage cheese and plain yogurt (good for yeast infections in dogs) for the calcium.
     
     
     
    • Gold Top Dog
    what are the long term side effects for using either too much or too little bone meal?
    • Bronze
    What company made the bone meal powder that you are using?
    Some bone meal powder has lead and other metals in it.